2022 NBA Draft Part II

SelfishPlayer · Post #321 » by **SelfishPlayer** » Wed May 11, 2022 4:59 am

Griffin played a bunch of minutes against college reserves.

Hal14 · Post #322 » by **Hal14** » Wed May 11, 2022 5:14 pm

Ryan Rollins gives me Bradley Beal vibes.

Thoughts?

SelfishPlayer · Post #323 » by **SelfishPlayer** » Thu May 12, 2022 1:18 am

Wendell Moore is being talked about in another thread as a PG in the NBA. Bennedict Mathurin is being overlooked as a lead guard/lead ball handler prospect. That's one of the main reasons why I think that he is undervalued.

Chi town · Post #324 » by **Chi town** » Thu May 12, 2022 3:24 am

jezzerinho wrote:

Watch on YouTube

I like Procida way more than Jovic.

Really good IQ and aggression. Can’t see his D on highlights.

Catchall · Post #325 » by **Catchall** » Sat May 14, 2022 3:03 am

Chi town wrote:
jezzerinho wrote:

Watch on YouTube

I like Procida way more than Jovic.

Really good IQ and aggression. Can’t see his D on highlights.

I like him, but I can't really put him ahead of Jovic as a prospect. They're different types of players. I think Jovic has the potential to become like prime Gallinari. The combination of size, shooting potential and playmaking potential makes Jovic pretty interesting.

Catchall · Post #326 » by **Catchall** » Sat May 14, 2022 3:09 am

I think Jaden Hardy is being underrated and deserves to be discussed among the second tier of guards in this draft. He's got more ability to play on the ball than he showed in the G-league, and his ability to create shots for himself against professional athletes and from NBA range was pretty impressive. Numbers aren't great, but he was playing at a different speed and against more physicality than college guys.

I see him as a bonafide shot creator and maker at the next level, and his FT% bodes well for his overall shooting splits.

Chi town · Post #327 » by **Chi town** » Sat May 14, 2022 3:12 am

Catchall wrote:
Chi town wrote:
jezzerinho wrote:

Watch on YouTube

I like Procida way more than Jovic.

Really good IQ and aggression. Can’t see his D on highlights.

I like him, but I can't really put him ahead of Jovic as a prospect. They're different types of players. I think Jovic has the potential to become like prime Gallinari. The combination of size, shooting potential and playmaking potential makes Jovic pretty interesting.

Not a fan of Jovic at all. Way too slow.

Catchall · Post #328 » by **Catchall** » Sat May 14, 2022 3:14 am

Chi town wrote:
Catchall wrote:
Chi town wrote:
I like Procida way more than Jovic.

Really good IQ and aggression. Can’t see his D on highlights.

I like him, but I can't really put him ahead of Jovic as a prospect. They're different types of players. I think Jovic has the potential to become like prime Gallinari. The combination of size, shooting potential and playmaking potential makes Jovic pretty interesting.

Not a fan of Jovic at all. Way too slow.

He should be at the Combine, so I guess we'll see. He doesn't have a burst off the dribble, but I wouldn't say he's slow. He may not be more than an average defender at best, but his offensive potential has a lot of appeal.

babyjax13 · Post #329 » by **babyjax13** » Sat May 14, 2022 5:44 am

Catchall wrote:I think Jaden Hardy is being underrated and deserves to be discussed among the second tier of guards in this draft. He's got more ability to play on the ball than he showed in the G-league, and his ability to create shots for himself against professional athletes and from NBA range was pretty impressive. Numbers aren't great, but he was playing at a different speed and against more physicality than college guys.

I see him as a bonafide shot creator and maker at the next level, and his FT% bodes well for his overall shooting splits.

Not only that but he was playing with the NBA line. What would he shoot from three with the college line? I think there's a good chance that mocks are underrating him and he should be closer to the 10-14 range than the 15-20 (which is where I have him).

Catchall · Post #330 » by **Catchall** » Sat May 14, 2022 7:26 am

babyjax13 wrote:
Catchall wrote:I think Jaden Hardy is being underrated and deserves to be discussed among the second tier of guards in this draft. He's got more ability to play on the ball than he showed in the G-league, and his ability to create shots for himself against professional athletes and from NBA range was pretty impressive. Numbers aren't great, but he was playing at a different speed and against more physicality than college guys.

I see him as a bonafide shot creator and maker at the next level, and his FT% bodes well for his overall shooting splits.

Not only that but he was playing with the NBA line. What would he shoot from three with the college line? I think there's a good chance that mocks are underrating him and he should be closer to the 10-14 range than the 15-20 (which is where I have him).

He looks like a more athletic version of D'Angelo Russell. I think he actually has fringe All Star potential.

The Moose · Post #331 » by **The Moose** » Tue May 17, 2022 8:33 am

Spoiler:

final update pre-lotto

Tier 1 - All-NBA potential
1. Paolo Banchero (firm on Banchero being the no.1 guy)

2a. Jabari Smith
2b. Chet Holmgren

Tier 2
4. Shaedon Sharpe
5. Tari Eason
6. Dyson Daniels
7. Jaden Ivey

Tier 3
8. Keegan Murray
9. Jeremy Sochan
10. Jalen Duren
11. Bennedict Mathurin
12. AJ Griffin

Tier 4- rotation pieces

Johnny Davis
Kendall Brown
Tyty Washington
Mark Williams
Patrick Baldwin
Jaden Hardy
Jake Laravia
Wendell Moore

Second Round targets
Max Christie
David Roddy
Josh Minott
Caleb Houstan
Jalen Slawson
Vince Williams
Keon Ellis
Dalen Terry

Tier 4+ 2nd round targets are not ordered

Big J · Post #332 » by **Big J** » Tue May 17, 2022 10:20 pm

After watching this years playoffs its pretty clear that Chet will get hunted on switches mercilessly in the playoffs. Bigs in todays game need to be able to stay in front of guys on the perimeter, and he doesn't have Bam level mobility.

moss_is_1 · Post #333 » by **moss_is_1** » Tue May 17, 2022 11:05 pm

Big J wrote:After watching this years playoffs its pretty clear that Chet will get hunted on switches mercilessly in the playoffs. Bigs in todays game need to be able to stay in front of guys on the perimeter, and he doesn't have Bam level mobility.

I mean, Bam is probably the most switchy center in the league. Plenty of other centers did alright to not be played off the floor defensively. Chet moves his feet pretty well, I think the bigger issue is him guarding centers.

Big J · Post #334 » by **Big J** » Tue May 17, 2022 11:18 pm

moss_is_1 wrote:
Big J wrote:After watching this years playoffs its pretty clear that Chet will get hunted on switches mercilessly in the playoffs. Bigs in todays game need to be able to stay in front of guys on the perimeter, and he doesn't have Bam level mobility.

I mean, Bam is probably the most switchy center in the league. Plenty of other centers did alright to not be played off the floor defensively. Chet moves his feet pretty well, I think the bigger issue is him guarding centers.

Chet is similar to Porzingis defensively. Mavs instantly got better when they traded him away.

Post #335 » by **zimpy27** » Wed May 18, 2022 12:11 am

Didn't realise Jabari Smith was somewhat related to Kwame Brown..

BlazersBroncos · Post #336 » by **BlazersBroncos** » Wed May 18, 2022 12:14 am

Big J wrote:
moss_is_1 wrote:
Big J wrote:After watching this years playoffs its pretty clear that Chet will get hunted on switches mercilessly in the playoffs. Bigs in todays game need to be able to stay in front of guys on the perimeter, and he doesn't have Bam level mobility.

I mean, Bam is probably the most switchy center in the league. Plenty of other centers did alright to not be played off the floor defensively. Chet moves his feet pretty well, I think the bigger issue is him guarding centers.

Chet is similar to Porzingis defensively. Mavs instantly got better when they traded him away.

I think the main issue with KP was his general selfishness and lack of fire. Chet plays a team game on offense in a way that KP never did.

I think Chet will be above average guarding in space for a 7 footer.

eminence · Post #337 » by **eminence** » Wed May 18, 2022 12:30 am

Think those results probably help Jabari a bit in the chance to go #1?

Post #338 » by **zimpy27** » Wed May 18, 2022 12:38 am

eminence wrote:Think those results probably help Jabari a bit in the chance to go #1?

Chet is a Magic player though. Long, center, defensive beast.

I see a WCJ//Chet or Isaac/Chet pairing happening.

Big J · Post #339 » by **Big J** » Wed May 18, 2022 12:40 am

zimpy27 wrote:
eminence wrote:Think those results probably help Jabari a bit in the chance to go #1?

Chet is a Magic player though. Long, center, defensive beast.

I see a WCJ//Chet or Isaac/Chet pairing happening.

What about Mo Bamba?

shangrila · Post #340 » by **shangrila** » Wed May 18, 2022 12:41 am

eminence wrote:Think those results probably help Jabari a bit in the chance to go #1?

I think there'll be a huge push from Suggs to take Chet 1st. I'm not sure it necessarily happens, but it'll be there.

Overall I do think this is just a bad draft for the Magic. You've got a handful of guys that can play that 4 spot, either big (WCJ) or small (Isaac, Wagner), and you sure as hell don't need Ivey. So who do you take? Smith, hoping he's basically a healthy version of Isaac? Paolo, hoping his statistical comparisons to Tatum are for real? Either of those scenarios push WCJ to the 5, which he's been very, VERY vocal about not wanting, so do you take Chet at C?

I feel a little sad for the Kings too. They really, really could have used one of those top 3 guys. Although maybe this pushes them into taking Sharpe and calling it a day, which is what I'd be doing. If he's even available at 4, I could see OKC bucking the trend and taking him depending on workouts.