Cooper Flagg - Duke

[bigboi]

right? marketability never plays a role in these decisions...oh wait

Larry Bird being white was a major reason for the NBA's resurgence after the 1970s. White fans came back in droves because of him. White kids began playing basketball and wanting to be like him resulting in more opportunities for them at higher levels. It's not race-baiting lmao. I'm the last person that would do that. It's just a factor. Sorry it triggers you so.

Where have you been the last 18 months? Clark put women's college basketball on the map and made people watch the WNBA. Are you so dense you don't believe her being white played no part in that? That her being white didn't elicit hatred from the true race-baiters that were triggered that a white girl was dominating the headlines. Ladies, it was literally all people talked about for like a year. Where have you been?

So yeah, I DO think race, looks and marketability play a major role in drafts and if it comes down to Harper or Flagg going #1 it will be A factor in the decision. Pretending it isn't and mocking me for saying it makes you look clownish tbh.

Are you **** kidding? Only race baiters who made it about race were your people when lsu beat Clark’s ass in the championship and tried to make her a victim. Ionescu was dominating college and wnba deadlines yet this race narrative never came up. Foh you racist piece of ****. Reporting this bull ass post. You’re not even rating Flagg on his game, but strictly based on him being white and your homosexual attraction to him. I bet you scream dei in your sleep too, clown

unhinged much lmao?!!!

I HAVE rated Flagg on his game. Reading comprehension is hard huh? Two-way wing? Point forward? Elite BBIQ. Banchero with D? Did you miss that through your seething? But if it's close, his marketability, could very well give him the edge. BTW you're going to be okay. Don't worry, Rachel Maddow just signed an extension so you'll continue getting her show

You’re a race baiting clown. But it’s ok, when Flagg ends up a bust. You can blame it on him being white since that’s your criteria in evaluating players

[KembaWalker]

I guess getting Draymond Green isn’t the worst outcome for 1st overall. Probably not ideal

[JustBuzzin]

Another average performance by Flagg 9pts/9reb/7ast

He's not generational and I'm not even sure if he's the best player in this class. Might be the next Andrew Wiggins as a guy who got over hyped and never lived up to the hype.

[bigboi]

Another average performance by Flagg 9pts/9reb/7ast

He's not generational and I'm not even sure if he's the best player in this class. Might be the next Andrew Wiggins as a guy who got over hyped and never lived up to the hype.

He highkey reminds me of Josh Jackson pre draft. But Jackson was more athletic and a better scorer in college. But Jackson pretty much had the same analysis. Won’t be your primary scorer, athletic, jack of all trades, elite at defense. Jackson was getting Iggy comparisons while Flagg has Been getting ak47. Maybe a Jackson with his head on straight could be elite but who knows. Jackson was at one point debated for going over Tatum in what was perceived to be a stacked draft

[JustBuzzin]

Another average performance by Flagg 9pts/9reb/7ast

He's not generational and I'm not even sure if he's the best player in this class. Might be the next Andrew Wiggins as a guy who got over hyped and never lived up to the hype.

He highkey reminds me of Josh Jackson pre draft. But Jackson was more athletic and a better scorer in college. But Jackson pretty much had the same analysis. Won’t be your primary scorer, athletic, jack of all trades, elite at defense. Jackson was getting Iggy comparisons while Flagg has Been getting ak47. Maybe a Jackson with his head on straight could be elite but who knows. Jackson was at one point debated for going over Tatum in what was perceived to be a stacked draft

Yeah I been saying AK47 since I first saw him play. I'm sticking with that comp. The generational player stuff is false tho. He's not that kind of talent. He will be good but not great.

I'm not even sure if people still hyping. I'm always bumping his threads on the GB. Not sure if people even paying attention to him anymore lol

[bigboi]

Another average performance by Flagg 9pts/9reb/7ast

He's not generational and I'm not even sure if he's the best player in this class. Might be the next Andrew Wiggins as a guy who got over hyped and never lived up to the hype.

He highkey reminds me of Josh Jackson pre draft. But Jackson was more athletic and a better scorer in college. But Jackson pretty much had the same analysis. Won’t be your primary scorer, athletic, jack of all trades, elite at defense. Jackson was getting Iggy comparisons while Flagg has Been getting ak47. Maybe a Jackson with his head on straight could be elite but who knows. Jackson was at one point debated for going over Tatum in what was perceived to be a stacked draft

Yeah I been saying AK47 since I first saw him play. I'm sticking with that comp. The generational player stuff is false tho. He's not that kind of talent. He will be good but not great.

I'm not even sure if people still hyping. I'm always bumping his threads on the GB. Not sure if people even paying attention to him anymore lol

Everyone is starting to back off. Even on reddit, people are starting to say that he was never called generational. It’s crazy how short memory is lol. Flagg was one of the most hyped high schoolers in a while and now people acting like he wasnt

[The Moose]

still pretty easily the number 1 pick to me

9.2 BPM, 28% USG, 25% AST rate, 5%+ blk and 2%+ stl rate as a 17 year old 6'9 wing in the NCAA is extremely good

He's essentially clearing Tatum, Paolo and Jalen Johnson's numbers across the board at Duke while being 6-12 months younger than any of them

[FarBeyondDriven]

Another average performance by Flagg 9pts/9reb/7ast

He's not generational and I'm not even sure if he's the best player in this class. Might be the next Andrew Wiggins as a guy who got over hyped and never lived up to the hype.

lmao. He sat like the last 8 minutes of the game due to it being a blowout. He legit was on triple double watch. 7 assists from a 6'8" wing is anything but average. You're reaching big time. That's basically how it's going to go for the rest of the year in here huh? Hyperbolic garbage to justify you people comparing him to Josh Jackson. Hilarious stuff

[EmpireFalls]

I suspect, much like Franz Wagner, it’ll take him a few years to truly develop that offensive game. Of course when he does he could be a great player.

But let’s be clear- it is NOT there yet. 2-7 FGs and basically everything good came on the offensive glass because he was playing a super small team.

[JustBuzzin]

Another average performance by Flagg 9pts/9reb/7ast

He's not generational and I'm not even sure if he's the best player in this class. Might be the next Andrew Wiggins as a guy who got over hyped and never lived up to the hype.

lmao. He sat like the last 8 minutes of the game due to it being a blowout. He legit was on triple double watch. 7 assists from a 6'8" wing is anything but average. You're reaching big time. That's basically how it's going to go for the rest of the year in here huh? Hyperbolic garbage to justify you people comparing him to Josh Jackson. Hilarious stuff

Never compared him to Josh Jackson. You replying to the wrong person.

I always said Ak47 and that's a fair comparison because that's literally his pro comp.

[TYO23]

I think the generational tag is hurting him to a degree but he’s still the best prospect in this class. I don’t think Scheyer does him any favors either with all the shot creation stuff. That’s not Cooper’s game

[Braggins]

I think Franz Wagner was actually young for his class and was similar in age to Flagg during his freshman season, so their freshman year production is an appropriate comparison in terms of age, size, position, and competition level.

Cooper Flagg ~ PF/SF
6'9" 205
per75: 21.9 pts ~ 11.6 reb ~ 5.7 ast ~ 2.0 stl ~ 2.0 blk
51.6% 2pt ~ 26.9% 3pt ~ 70.6% ft ~ 52.3% ts
+26.3 net ~ +10.8 bpm ~ 28.9% usg ~ .378 FTr

Franz Wagner ~ SF/PF
6'9" 220
per75: 16.3 pts ~ 7.9 reb ~ 1.4 ast ~ 1.8 stl ~ 1.8 blk
61.0% 2pt ~ 31.1% 3pt ~ 83.3% ft ~ 56.6% ts
+10.7 net ~ +6.8 bpm ~ 19.6% usg ~ .216 FTr

[JMAC3]

He is averaging 16/8/4/1.4/1.4 and people are calling him a future role player?

Do most role players lead their teams in scoring, rebounds, assists, blocks, FTA, FGA? It was way too early to say he is for sure the #1 pick, but if the draft were today he is #1 pretty easily. Had 26 pts and 24 pts vs Arizona and Kentucky who really cares what he does vs Seattle and Wofford in 30 pt blowouts.

[JustBuzzin]

He is averaging 16/8/4/1.4/1.4 and people are calling him a future role player?

Do most role players lead their teams in scoring, rebounds, assists, blocks, FTA, FGA? It was way too early to say he is for sure the #1 pick, but if the draft were today he is #1 pretty easily. Had 26 pts and 24 pts vs Arizona and Kentucky who really cares what he does vs Seattle and Wofford in 30 pt blowouts.

We just said he's not generational. He got over hyped that's all.

[JMAC3]

He is averaging 16/8/4/1.4/1.4 and people are calling him a future role player?

Do most role players lead their teams in scoring, rebounds, assists, blocks, FTA, FGA? It was way too early to say he is for sure the #1 pick, but if the draft were today he is #1 pretty easily. Had 26 pts and 24 pts vs Arizona and Kentucky who really cares what he does vs Seattle and Wofford in 30 pt blowouts.

We just said he's not generational. He got over hyped that's all.

He was called a bum, trash, next Andrew Wiggins, compared to Josh Jackson, called a role player... I would say that is all a bit more than saying he is over hyped.

He is 17 yrs old, what were you guys expecting him to drop 40 pts multiple times within his first 7 games? I would say scoring 50 combined vs Arizona and Kentucky is probably more than enough for me at this point 7 games into his career.

[Big J]

Forget about the college numbers. He played against the Olympic team and looked like the best player against them. That tells you all you need to know about how he's going to do in the NBA.

[BigGargamel]

He's not generational. It's not his fault people keep throwing that out there like the word has no meaning. He's still the best of a very nice group of prospects in what will be a good draft. I am very confident that he will be an All Star. Maybe never an MVP, but that's for the idiot talking heads who call every other player the popular "generational" buzzword to argue about.

The extreme hyperbole a couple of people are throwing out there because he is overhyped is juvenile though.

[JustBuzzin]

He is averaging 16/8/4/1.4/1.4 and people are calling him a future role player?

Do most role players lead their teams in scoring, rebounds, assists, blocks, FTA, FGA? It was way too early to say he is for sure the #1 pick, but if the draft were today he is #1 pretty easily. Had 26 pts and 24 pts vs Arizona and Kentucky who really cares what he does vs Seattle and Wofford in 30 pt blowouts.

We just said he's not generational. He got over hyped that's all.

He was called a bum, trash, next Andrew Wiggins, compared to Josh Jackson, called a role player... I would say that is all a bit more than saying he is over hyped.

He is 17 yrs old, what were you guys expecting him to drop 40 pts multiple times within his first 7 games? I would say scoring 50 combined vs Arizona and Kentucky is probably more than enough for me at this point 7 games into his career.

I was comparing him to Wiggins career not the playstyle.

Wiggins made a all-star team it's not like his career was trash. He just didn't live up to the hype coming out of highschool. I'm saying I can see Flagg having a similar type career. I don't see him as a superstar like everyone else.

He's not a scorer so it's gonna be hard to become a legit superstar if you can't put the ball in the basketball at a consistent basis. Right now I haven't seen it from Flagg as a scorer.

Maybe he gets better as the season goes, but he's more of a all-around talent not a go to guy.

[JustBuzzin]

Also before anyone starts labeling me as a Flagg hater that's not true. I'm a Hornets fan and I would love to have this guy next to Melo and Miller for our core future. He fits well with what we are building.

[Catchall]

He pressures the defense and impacts the game overall more than any draft prospect in this class, imo. He makes plays. He's also forcing plays, which affects his efficiency. He's also doing this while he's still 17. I think he's pretty clearly the #1 prospect.