Luka Doncic Part III

[Nikson]

Even better.

Guess that means whatever you did outside the NBA means jacks*** once you’re in the NBA.

Thanks.

So, you didn't have a clue, and thought they were killing it, but now that you are exposed, it somehow is an argument for what you are trying to prove.
Pretty weak man.

Actually I knew they weren’t “killing it”.

Your buddy decided to bring up Hezonja averaging low points & minutes.

I brought those two up because they did absolutely nothing noteworthy before the NBA. Now they actually are “killing it”. And look, what happened before the NBA meant absolutely nothing.

Moral of the story is, using Doncic’s accomplishment outside the NBA means absolutely nothing.

Understand?

Sure.
Ayton, Bamba, Dončić, Young...50th...60th picks are all the same. Nothing.
No gray between black and white.


Ok.

[Antinomy]

So, you didn't have a clue, and thought they were killing it, but now that you are exposed, it somehow is an argument for what you are trying to prove.
Pretty weak man.

Actually I knew they weren’t “killing it”.

Your buddy decided to bring up Hezonja averaging low points & minutes.

I brought those two up because they did absolutely nothing noteworthy before the NBA. Now they actually are “killing it”. And look, what happened before the NBA meant absolutely nothing.

Moral of the story is, using Doncic’s accomplishment outside the NBA means absolutely nothing.

Understand?

Sure.
Ayton, Bamba, Dončić, Young...50th...60th picks are all the same. Nothing.
No gray between black and white.


Ok.

Well when the ace of your argument is “he won EuroLeague MVP” my answer is “who gives af?”

Apparently the first 4 teams in the draft didn’t care either & passed on him. Maybe you know something they don’t & should take their jobs.

[Nikson]

Actually I knew they weren’t “killing it”.

Your buddy decided to bring up Hezonja averaging low points & minutes.

I brought those two up because they did absolutely nothing noteworthy before the NBA. Now they actually are “killing it”. And look, what happened before the NBA meant absolutely nothing.

Moral of the story is, using Doncic’s accomplishment outside the NBA means absolutely nothing.

Understand?

Sure.
Ayton, Bamba, Dončić, Young...50th...60th picks are all the same. Nothing.
No gray between black and white.


Ok.

Well when the ace of your argument is “he won EuroLeague MVP” my answer is “who gives af?”

Apparently the first 4 teams in the draft didn’t care either & passed on him. Maybe you know something they don’t & should take their jobs.

You are changing the subject of debate.
That is caled trolling.

[Antinomy]

Sure.
Ayton, Bamba, Dončić, Young...50th...60th picks are all the same. Nothing.
No gray between black and white.


Ok.

Well when the ace of your argument is “he won EuroLeague MVP” my answer is “who gives af?”

Apparently the first 4 teams in the draft didn’t care either & passed on him. Maybe you know something they don’t & should take their jobs.

You are changing the subject of debate.
That is caled trolling.

Nobody’s changing the subject. You’ve been got. Plain & simple. Stop being a coward dude. Are you gonna report me too?

You know damn well I turned your argument upside down. If what someone accomplished outside the nba actually mattered when projecting a player in the NBA, he wouldn’t have been passed by the first 4 teams.

Like I said before. If you know better than them, then maybe you should take their jobs.

[realEAST]

Even better.

Guess that means whatever you did outside the NBA means jacks*** once you’re in the NBA.

Thanks.

So, you didn't have a clue, and thought they were killing it, but now that you are exposed, it somehow is an argument for what you are trying to prove.
Pretty weak man.

Actually I knew they weren’t “killing it”.

Your buddy decided to bring up Hezonja averaging low points & minutes.

I brought those two up because they did absolutely nothing noteworthy before the NBA. Now they actually are “killing it”. And look, what happened before the NBA meant absolutely nothing.

Moral of the story is, using Doncic’s accomplishment outside the NBA means absolutely nothing.

Understand?

Not so sure you did, why put "even better" at the beginning then?

Either way, none of them did much in Europe, yet some succeeded, and some of them did not. That is perfectly understandable, they were at approximately same level, and some went forward, improved, some didn't. Same can be applied to any level of competition. To make it more clear - you have highly touted guys in NCAA, at same age, posting similar numbers, and some pan out, some don't. Get it?

But only Doncic put up numbers he did, and won as much as he did - why would you put him in the same sentence with others? It just makes no sense. To make it more simple for you, it would be like if someone in NCAA put up 50-10-10, because that, and even more, is the difference between what Doncic did and rest of the Euros he gets compared to at the same age, and went on to win everything, and you'd say, heck, it is completely irrelevant. Any of that doesn't matter.

Moral of the story, you are just bitter and biased victim of Dunning Kruger effect.

Bye.

[burek3]

Maybe the first 4 teams in lottery are just trash organizations with trash FO who cannot assess talents and assemble a functioning basketball team.

I bet KoKo cried for the whole night after draft.

And maybe I'm harsh on Memphis, Luka was off the board @ #4, who knows what would happen if he wasn't snatched by DAL.

Just a passing thought, don't delve too much into it.

[Nikson]

Well when the ace of your argument is “he won EuroLeague MVP” my answer is “who gives af?”

Apparently the first 4 teams in the draft didn’t care either & passed on him. Maybe you know something they don’t & should take their jobs.

You are changing the subject of debate.
That is caled trolling.

Nobody’s changing the subject. You’ve been got. Plain & simple. Stop being a coward dude. Are you gonna report me too?

You know damn well I turned your argument upside down. If what someone accomplished outside the nba actually mattered when projecting a player in the NBA, he wouldn’t have been passed by the first 4 teams.

Like I said before. If you know better than them, then maybe you should take their jobs.

I apologize for exposing you. I didn’t mean anything bad.

[burek3]

NCAA accomplishments seem to also not count, I mean, a guy who is a proven winner, a leader, with 2 titles, received National Player of the Year award, slipped into #33 on the draft.

I'm talking about Jalen Brunson, yet another steal pick for DAL:


Didn't read up much about him other than the accolades. I suppose he can't touch the top of the backboard and dunk 360, he must be trash.

[mabundo_nagumbe]

Even better.

Guess that means whatever you did outside the NBA means jacks*** once you’re in the NBA.

Thanks.

So, you didn't have a clue, and thought they were killing it, but now that you are exposed, it somehow is an argument for what you are trying to prove.
Pretty weak man.

Actually I knew they weren’t “killing it”.

Your buddy decided to bring up Hezonja averaging low points & minutes.

I brought those two up because they did absolutely nothing noteworthy before the NBA. Now they actually are “killing it”. And look, what happened before the NBA meant absolutely nothing.

Moral of the story is, using Doncic’s accomplishment outside the NBA means absolutely nothing.

Understand?

except it was actually you who brought up Hezonja

[Antinomy]

Maybe the first 4 teams in lottery are just trash organizations with trash FO who cannot assess talents and assemble a functioning basketball team.

I bet KoKo cried for the whole night after draft.

And maybe I'm harsh on Memphis, Luka was off the board @ #4, who knows what would happen if he wasn't snatched by DAL.

Just a passing thought, don't delve too much into it.

I’m sure you would do a much better job burek3

[burek3]

Maybe the first 4 teams in lottery are just trash organizations with trash FO who cannot assess talents and assemble a functioning basketball team.

I bet KoKo cried for the whole night after draft.

And maybe I'm harsh on Memphis, Luka was off the board @ #4, who knows what would happen if he wasn't snatched by DAL.

Just a passing thought, don't delve too much into it.

I’m sure you would do a much better job burek3

I'm sure too, but not everyone gets a chance, so they have to settle on posting on realGM. Funny how life works, eh?

But, whatever, you do you,man: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_accomplishment

[Archx]

Actually I knew they weren’t “killing it”.

Your buddy decided to bring up Hezonja averaging low points & minutes.

I brought those two up because they did absolutely nothing noteworthy before the NBA. Now they actually are “killing it”. And look, what happened before the NBA meant absolutely nothing.

Moral of the story is, using Doncic’s accomplishment outside the NBA means absolutely nothing.

Understand?

Sure.
Ayton, Bamba, Dončić, Young...50th...60th picks are all the same. Nothing.
No gray between black and white.


Ok.

Well when the ace of your argument is “he won EuroLeague MVP” my answer is “who gives af?”

Apparently the first 4 teams in the draft didn’t care either & passed on him. Maybe you know something they don’t & should take their jobs.

All this talk about Hezonja. For the first time i actually went and check his highlights from EU and then from the NBA. What i can tell is that he makes 3pts easily and is also lightning quick and explosive. Why he averaged so low PPG in EU i have no clue.... And apparently athleticism doesn't bring you far in the NBA because he is not averaging much more there aswell. Someone in Y'tube comments said he is dumb but don't know, i just watched highlights. If Luka could get to Hezonja's explosive level though, then i would say he will be a superstar but he is so far away from that, i can't even guarantee he will win ROY and it triggers me when people set the bar sooo high for him. I don't think it is fair

[Luka Dontreach]

Sure.
Ayton, Bamba, Dončić, Young...50th...60th picks are all the same. Nothing.
No gray between black and white.


Ok.

Well when the ace of your argument is “he won EuroLeague MVP” my answer is “who gives af?”

Apparently the first 4 teams in the draft didn’t care either & passed on him. Maybe you know something they don’t & should take their jobs.

All this talk about Hezonja. For the first time i actually went and check his highlights from EU and then from the NBA. What i can tell is that he makes 3pts easily and is also lightning quick and explosive. Why he averaged so low PPG in EU i have no clue.... And apparently athleticism doesn't bring you far in the NBA because he is not averaging much more there aswell. Someone in Y'tube comments said he is dumb but don't know, i just watched highlights. If Luka could get to Hezonja's explosive level though, then i would say he will be a superstar but he is so far away from that, i can't even guarantee he will win ROY and it triggers me when people set the bar sooo high for him. I don't think it is fair

He averaged so little PT because he was a dumb player. He had no basketball understanding at all. He was simply an athlete that was all about jacking 3's the second he got the ball.

The NBA shows us time and time again that skills usually prevail over athleticism. Luka will make that obvious pretty early.

[J_T]

Even better.

Guess that means whatever you did outside the NBA means jacks*** once you’re in the NBA.

Thanks.

So, you didn't have a clue, and thought they were killing it, but now that you are exposed, it somehow is an argument for what you are trying to prove.
Pretty weak man.

Actually I knew they weren’t “killing it”.

Your buddy decided to bring up Hezonja averaging low points & minutes.

I brought those two up because they did absolutely nothing noteworthy before the NBA. Now they actually are “killing it”. And look, what happened before the NBA meant absolutely nothing.

Moral of the story is, using Doncic’s accomplishment outside the NBA means absolutely nothing.

Understand?

Just stop. I'm one of those that starts feeling bad when others get disgraced or embarrassed too much and you have stepped into that territory long time ago. Your posts are just cringeworthy. Just do what others do, like peja and company, and disappear for a while. You know, "business trips", had no time to check forums and reply.

[burek3]

It is official, he will NOT play for NT in the qualifiers @28.6. and 1.7.

Troubles me to say it, but expected, logical and smart move.

[GimmeDat]

It is official, he will NOT play for NT in the qualifiers @28.6. and 1.7.

Troubles me to say it, but expected, logical and smart move.

Do you think it'll be the difference between you winning or losing your qualifiers? Who are you playing?

[burek3]

It is official, he will NOT play for NT in the qualifiers @28.6. and 1.7.

Troubles me to say it, but expected, logical and smart move.

Do you think it'll be the difference between you winning or losing your qualifiers? Who are you playing?

The situation is like this:

28 June:
SLOVENIA - SPAIN
MONTENEGRO - BELARUS

1 July:
SLOVENIA - MONTENEGRO
SPAIN - BELARUS

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Standings        (Games W L Diff Pts):                             
SPAIN                4  4 0  +35  8
SLOVENIA             4  2 2  +16  6
BELARUS              4  1 3  -38  5
--------------------------------------
MONTENEGRO           4  1 3  -13  5


We are missing Dragic, Doncic, Anthony Randolph.

It will definitely be a very tough one especially after FIBA changed/reinterpreted rules in the middle of the first round phase saying that all teams carry on scores with all other teams to phase 2.

Previously, scores with the 2 teams (1 from each group, see also below) that do not advance (below dotted line) to phase 2 were supposed to be omitted.

This means the loss against Belarus might just be the first nail in our coffin. (God, I hate these death related phrases used in sports, but It'll do )

Spain is strong favorite against SLO, but it's around 50-50 vs. Montenegro.

3 teams advance into phase 2, where they cross (2 games against each team) with the group of:

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UKRAINE     4  3 1 +26 7
TURKEY      4  2 2  +9 6
LATVIA      4  2 2  -1 6
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SWEDEN      4  1 3 -27 5

And out of phase2, only 3 NTs advance to the actual WC. Spain is obviously pretty much already qualified. Ukraine had a streak due to Turkey and Latvia not employing their best players. In this window, Euroleague players will be able to play, so it's safe to say that Turkey and Latvia will probably get away with 2-0, as they both play vs. Ukraine and Sweden.

So, in any case, Slovenia is pretty much **** in phase2 if we don't pull off a magical 2-0 in these 2 games.

And we could use Doncic. A LOT.

[Johnny Firpo]

Hey guys, I need your help! I am writing a Doncic piece (not in English), and I am looking for information that was mentioned in this thread a couple months ago. Both in relation to his athletic ability. He participated in a measurement/evaluation maybe one or two years ago that came to the conclusion - with numbers and a depth-in evaluation - that he is very athletic. And I also saw a video a couple of days ago, where someone from a company told that they measured his lateral quickness, and he is actually pretty quick even by NBA standards. I couldn't find neither, but I remember a European poster of ours copy&pasted that long evaluation in one of our previous Doncic threads. Maybe some of you have this stuff bookmarked? Thanks in advance!

[burek3]

Hey guys, I need your help! I am writing a Doncic piece (not in English), and I am looking for information that was mentioned in this thread a couple months ago. Both in relation to his athletic ability. He participated in a measurement/evaluation maybe one or two years ago that came to the conclusion - with numbers and a depth-in evaluation - that he is very athletic. And I also saw a video a couple of days ago, where someone from a company told that they measured his lateral quickness, and he is actually pretty quick even by NBA standards. I couldn't find neither, but I remember a European poster of ours copy&pasted that long evaluation in one of our previous Doncic threads. Maybe some of you have this stuff bookmarked? Thanks in advance!

Do you mean this?

Congratulations to P3 athlete Luka Doncic for being named the unanimous EuroLeague Rising Star Trophy for the 2016-17 season. Luka has put together one of the greatest seasons by a teenager in European basketball history. Not only did Doncic become the youngest player to ever claim MVP of the Round honors in the EuroLeague, he went on to do so four times this season (second most of any player) and helped lead Real Madrid to the Final Four next week in Istanbul. Luka has spent a few weeks at P3 the past two summers. Luka combines outstanding anthropometric measurements, including an 8'9.5" standing reach (88th percentile for NBA guards) and 228.8 lbs of mass with very competitive and improving movement qualities. In the lateral plane, Luka's ability to abduct the hip (1 dev above the mean) allows him to generate Force more efficiently than most NBA players that we've assessed (71st percentile in lateral acceleration). He's become particularly adept in a change-of-direction environment, where his Slide Agility times outpace most NBA Guards tested at P3 and they've improved by roughly 0.25s in the past year. Vertically, Luka ranks better than 73% of NBA guards in height touched during the approach and his improved his countermovement jump by 2 inches in the past year. He's good now, he's still getting better, and he's well within his physical development window!

Source: https://www.facebook.com/PeakPerformanceProject/videos/10155225675353864/

[Johnny Firpo]

Hey guys, I need your help! I am writing a Doncic piece (not in English), and I am looking for information that was mentioned in this thread a couple months ago. Both in relation to his athletic ability. He participated in a measurement/evaluation maybe one or two years ago that came to the conclusion - with numbers and a depth-in evaluation - that he is very athletic. And I also saw a video a couple of days ago, where someone from a company told that they measured his lateral quickness, and he is actually pretty quick even by NBA standards. I couldn't find neither, but I remember a European poster of ours copy&pasted that long evaluation in one of our previous Doncic threads. Maybe some of you have this stuff bookmarked? Thanks in advance!

Do you mean this?

Congratulations to P3 athlete Luka Doncic for being named the unanimous EuroLeague Rising Star Trophy for the 2016-17 season. Luka has put together one of the greatest seasons by a teenager in European basketball history. Not only did Doncic become the youngest player to ever claim MVP of the Round honors in the EuroLeague, he went on to do so four times this season (second most of any player) and helped lead Real Madrid to the Final Four next week in Istanbul. Luka has spent a few weeks at P3 the past two summers. Luka combines outstanding anthropometric measurements, including an 8'9.5" standing reach (88th percentile for NBA guards) and 228.8 lbs of mass with very competitive and improving movement qualities. In the lateral plane, Luka's ability to abduct the hip (1 dev above the mean) allows him to generate Force more efficiently than most NBA players that we've assessed (71st percentile in lateral acceleration). He's become particularly adept in a change-of-direction environment, where his Slide Agility times outpace most NBA Guards tested at P3 and they've improved by roughly 0.25s in the past year. Vertically, Luka ranks better than 73% of NBA guards in height touched during the approach and his improved his countermovement jump by 2 inches in the past year. He's good now, he's still getting better, and he's well within his physical development window!

Source: https://www.facebook.com/PeakPerformanceProject/videos/10155225675353864/

Wow, that was quick, you are awesome, thank you!