Luka Doncic Part III

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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3361 » by J_T » Mon Sep 3, 2018 7:31 pm

arh1109 wrote:
Rn5ho wrote:And Luka is 19. Not the same.

Name me 5 players who ARE able to guard LeBron and KD in a h2h matchup and are on rookie contracts.


Justice Winslow
Ben Simmons
Jayson Tatum(barely)
Jaylen Brown
Josh Jackson
Kyle Kuzma
Brandon Ingram
Jerami Grant
Stanley Johnson
Reggie Bullock

How exactly do you define "able to guard?"
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3362 » by arh1109 » Mon Sep 3, 2018 8:50 pm

J_T wrote:
arh1109 wrote:
Rn5ho wrote:And Luka is 19. Not the same.

Name me 5 players who ARE able to guard LeBron and KD in a h2h matchup and are on rookie contracts.


Justice Winslow
Ben Simmons
Jayson Tatum(barely)
Jaylen Brown
Josh Jackson
Kyle Kuzma
Brandon Ingram
Jerami Grant
Stanley Johnson
Reggie Bullock

How exactly do you define "able to guard?"


I consider having physical attributes and mental attributes to be enough. But defensive rating while matched up with specific player might be enough.
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3363 » by Archx » Mon Sep 3, 2018 9:22 pm

arh1109 wrote:
Rn5ho wrote:And Luka is 19. Not the same.

Name me 5 players who ARE able to guard LeBron and KD in a h2h matchup and are on rookie contracts.


Justice Winslow
Ben Simmons
Jayson Tatum(barely)
Jaylen Brown
Josh Jackson
Kyle Kuzma
Brandon Ingram
Jerami Grant
Stanley Johnson
Reggie Bullock


Any person on earth can guard LBJ or KD by that logic, but no one will have success in 1v1. Same logic applies to this list, it is really terrible.
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3364 » by XTraderXL » Mon Sep 3, 2018 9:26 pm

arh1109 wrote:
Rn5ho wrote:And Luka is 19. Not the same.

Name me 5 players who ARE able to guard LeBron and KD in a h2h matchup and are on rookie contracts.


Justice Winslow
Ben Simmons
Jayson Tatum(barely)
Jaylen Brown
Josh Jackson
Kyle Kuzma
Brandon Ingram
Jerami Grant
Stanley Johnson
Reggie Bullock



Anybody guard KD and LBJ... The question is how well they can do it and both of them could score 50 on every player on your list if they wanted to.
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3365 » by arh1109 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:25 pm

Well he’s trash on defense in 2k19
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3366 » by Nazrmohamed » Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:38 pm

J_T wrote:
arh1109 wrote:
Rn5ho wrote:And Luka is 19. Not the same.

Name me 5 players who ARE able to guard LeBron and KD in a h2h matchup and are on rookie contracts.


Justice Winslow
Ben Simmons
Jayson Tatum(barely)
Jaylen Brown
Josh Jackson
Kyle Kuzma
Brandon Ingram
Jerami Grant
Stanley Johnson
Reggie Bullock

How exactly do you define "able to guard?"


That's bullcrap and he knows it. You CANT define it cuz its impossible. Kuwai Leonard couldn't guard them at 19 and its almost impossible to guard them at 29.

That said, Doncic probably won't be a plus defender but he could be a decent team defender. Passing lane steals, clutch defensive boards. We'll see.
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3367 » by arh1109 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:00 pm

No one talks about the more open nba size courts but I think it’ll be bad for him on defense, good on offense
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3368 » by arh1109 » Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:35 am

Lol Mavs put him at power forward
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3369 » by springcadre » Sat Oct 6, 2018 4:45 am

springcadre, you've been warned.
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3370 » by Gibson22 » Sat Oct 6, 2018 12:52 pm

springcadre wrote:The white boy is too slow for real black players


You are a racist without the shadow of a doubt
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3371 » by arkuo » Mon Oct 8, 2018 5:20 pm

lebron3-14-3 wrote:
springcadre wrote:The white boy is too slow for real black players


You are a racist without the shadow of a doubt


He's from Boston, MA? So......
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3372 » by Johnny Firpo » Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:10 pm

Luka has looked excellent in the preseason both on offense and defense. The real games are starting in two days though, and we'll see how consistent he'll be.
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3373 » by UcanUwill » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:39 am

Johnny Firpo wrote:Luka has looked excellent in the preseason both on offense and defense. The real games are starting in two days though, and we'll see how consistent he'll be.


What do you think of this years team? 35 wins, 40 wins? Possible?
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3374 » by Johnny Firpo » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:14 am

UcanUwill wrote:
Johnny Firpo wrote:Luka has looked excellent in the preseason both on offense and defense. The real games are starting in two days though, and we'll see how consistent he'll be.


What do you think of this years team? 35 wins, 40 wins? Possible?


I think 35 should definitely be the "worst-case plan". Otherwise it's impossible to tell. The best case scenario is that Luka is a borderline top 25 player from the get go, similarly to what Simmons was last year (with somewhat different styles, obviously), DSJ makes a huge jump, and Jordan is a borderline all-star, while even Barnes improves (mainly his 3-ball) and Wes is more consistent, now two years removed from his injury, and if all this happens (it won't), maybe we could even be in contention for the playoffs. I don't know, I just know that for the first time in like 3-4 years, I will actually root for us to win games, which will be amazing on its own. :)
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3375 » by BostonCouchGM » Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:14 am

as predicted...he looked awful. Can't defend and can't shoot. Not a great combo. He's a great passer with high BBIQ and motor. But that won't work in the NBA if you don't have skills to offset the lack of athleticism. Hopefully, eventually he'll find himself on a team or a situation where he can be a point forward with shooters surrounding him and an elite Big that he can primarily run the PnR with. That's the only chance he has to be an above average player, and even then, only on offense. DSJ can't play off ball so it won't be in Dallas until they fix that situation. Maybe they can find a shooter with their 2019 lottery pick...that's right, they traded that to ATL. Yikes.
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3376 » by Archx » Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:10 am

BostonCouchGM wrote:as predicted...he looked awful. Can't defend and can't shoot. Not a great combo. He's a great passer with high BBIQ and motor. But that won't work in the NBA if you don't have skills to offset the lack of athleticism. Hopefully, eventually he'll find himself on a team or a situation where he can be a point forward with shooters surrounding him and an elite Big that he can primarily run the PnR with. That's the only chance he has to be an above average player, and even then, only on offense. DSJ can't play off ball so it won't be in Dallas until they fix that situation. Maybe they can find a shooter with their 2019 lottery pick...that's right, they traded that to ATL. Yikes.


Calm your tits. He proved that he can shoot. Him and DSJ just had a bad night. You think this is the last game that he will have a bad shooting performance? Also, almost all rookies except Ayton had bad shooting night.
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3377 » by UcanUwill » Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:08 pm

BostonCouchGM wrote:as predicted...he looked awful. Can't defend and can't shoot. Not a great combo. He's a great passer with high BBIQ and motor. But that won't work in the NBA if you don't have skills to offset the lack of athleticism. Hopefully, eventually he'll find himself on a team or a situation where he can be a point forward with shooters surrounding him and an elite Big that he can primarily run the PnR with. That's the only chance he has to be an above average player, and even then, only on offense. DSJ can't play off ball so it won't be in Dallas until they fix that situation. Maybe they can find a shooter with their 2019 lottery pick...that's right, they traded that to ATL. Yikes.


Didnt hit his shots in one game equal he cant shoot... Hes a good shooter, might turn to elite in few seasons.
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3378 » by yoyoboy » Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:35 pm

BostonCouchGM wrote:as predicted...he looked awful. Can't defend and can't shoot. Not a great combo. He's a great passer with high BBIQ and motor. But that won't work in the NBA if you don't have skills to offset the lack of athleticism. Hopefully, eventually he'll find himself on a team or a situation where he can be a point forward with shooters surrounding him and an elite Big that he can primarily run the PnR with. That's the only chance he has to be an above average player, and even then, only on offense. DSJ can't play off ball so it won't be in Dallas until they fix that situation. Maybe they can find a shooter with their 2019 lottery pick...that's right, they traded that to ATL. Yikes.

This post is going to look really bad soon and you’re going to regret jumping to conclusions in literally Game 1 of a 19 year old rookie’s career. I have zero doubts whatsoever he’s going to be a very good player.

He was great in the preseason and he simply had an off shooting night. It happens to rookies. I’m also not seeing bad defense. He’s been surprisingly decent on that end already.
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3379 » by Homerclease » Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:30 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
BostonCouchGM wrote:as predicted...he looked awful. Can't defend and can't shoot. Not a great combo. He's a great passer with high BBIQ and motor. But that won't work in the NBA if you don't have skills to offset the lack of athleticism. Hopefully, eventually he'll find himself on a team or a situation where he can be a point forward with shooters surrounding him and an elite Big that he can primarily run the PnR with. That's the only chance he has to be an above average player, and even then, only on offense. DSJ can't play off ball so it won't be in Dallas until they fix that situation. Maybe they can find a shooter with their 2019 lottery pick...that's right, they traded that to ATL. Yikes.


Didnt hit his shots in one game equal he cant shoot... Hes a good shooter, might turn to elite in few seasons.

He’s a career 30% 3 point shooter, if he’s a good shooter then so is Marcus Smart
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3380 » by UcanUwill » Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:46 pm

Homerclease wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
BostonCouchGM wrote:as predicted...he looked awful. Can't defend and can't shoot. Not a great combo. He's a great passer with high BBIQ and motor. But that won't work in the NBA if you don't have skills to offset the lack of athleticism. Hopefully, eventually he'll find himself on a team or a situation where he can be a point forward with shooters surrounding him and an elite Big that he can primarily run the PnR with. That's the only chance he has to be an above average player, and even then, only on offense. DSJ can't play off ball so it won't be in Dallas until they fix that situation. Maybe they can find a shooter with their 2019 lottery pick...that's right, they traded that to ATL. Yikes.


Didnt hit his shots in one game equal he cant shoot... Hes a good shooter, might turn to elite in few seasons.

He’s a career 30% 3 point shooter, if he’s a good shooter then so is Marcus Smart


Probably 80% of his career 3s were off the dribble contested step backs. He was never used as off ball spot up shooter, and they never played off ball screens for him. If you think he cant shoot, you probably never watched him play. For the first time in his career he got to play off ball a little more, shoot open 3s with feet set, and he was 43.5% from 3 on 5.8 attempts in preseason. Dude is a good shooter, he was 18 last year shooting some of the most clutch and hardest shots in Europe, and he wasn't consistent all the time, what a shock. Leave him actually open and then call him bad shooter, good luck with that.

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