Mohamed Bamba

[GreatWhiteStiff]

Again, my question was, what's easier to learn offense or defense? Capela is a perfect example. He has no offense whatsoever. He is strictly dependent on others for his points or put backs. Dude can't even make a free throw. Offensive liability that led to PJ Tucker playing Center.

Dude asked why Ayton and Bagley was rated higher. Offense always trump defense. Defensive specialist don't get drafted number one.

And bringing up Kareem to make a point, come on man. Be better than that.

It's not hard to learn offense like being a roll man or hitting an open jumper. He's already good at that stuff, and isn't going to be asked to have a well-diversified post game and won't need to. That is my point.

That's not offense produce by him, thus the stuff is unreliable, for example when CP3 sits down, he is useless. Please, be better than that man. Come on.

Chris Paul was injured the first 15 games of the season. I checked Clint Capela's stats for those games. I quit at that point, but yeah.

70% fg shooting. 13 ppg. 11.5 rpg. 3.5 ORBpg. 26 MPG.

So I would say that qualifies in the range of "not useless". Somewhere in that range, In my opinion. Feeling pretty solid on that one.

[JMac1]

It's not hard to learn offense like being a roll man or hitting an open jumper. He's already good at that stuff, and isn't going to be asked to have a well-diversified post game and won't need to. That is my point.

That's not offense produce by him, thus the stuff is unreliable, for example when CP3 sits down, he is useless. Please, be better than that man. Come on.

Chris Paul was injured the first 15 games of the season. I checked Clint Capela's stats for those games. I quit at that point, but yeah.

70% fg shooting. 13 ppg. 11.5 rpg. 3.5 ORBpg. 26 MPG.

So I would say that qualifies in the range of "not useless". Somewhere in that range, In my opinion. Feeling pretty solid on that one.

Capela is an offensive Dynamo, my bad. He can't be stopped when he decides to turn it on offensively. I was wrong. Thanks for enlightening me.

[CP War Hawks]

Guy is apparently doing urban legend stuff in these workouts. Just waiting for someone to leak a vid of him jumping up and hanging onto the top of the backboard.

He blocks the majority of shots with his left hand. If he stays healthy, he's the best threat to Hakeem's all-time shot blocking record. Should be a strong threat in transition with the new found speed and his ability to pinpoint the ball with that wingspan.

[PLO]

Guy is apparently doing urban legend stuff in these workouts. Just waiting for someone to leak a vid of him jumping up and hanging onto the top of the backboard.

He blocks the majority of shots with his left hand. If he stays healthy, he's the best threat to Hakeem's all-time shot blocking record. Should be a strong threat in transition with the new found speed and his ability to pinpoint the ball with that wingspan.

Only ~ 3800 or so to get, should get the record sometime in 2019 when consensus finally turns unanimous for his DMVP claims.

[Jkam31]

If my GM took Bamba in the top 4 I’d fire him before summer league started


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[BadWolf]

Isn't it kind of strange that he's showing so many things he didn't show before. I don't really buy all these reports, or maybe the things he can do just aren't all that important on the court.

[zaymon]

Isn't it kind of strange that he's showing so many things he didn't show before. I don't really buy all these reports, or maybe the things he can do just aren't all that important on the court.

I think its common strategy before the draft for less skilled players. WCS was doing exactly the same things. One thing going for bamba is his perceived high iq, maybe something will translete.

[Wilfried]

I hear Joel Embiid is starting to think about retirement now that Bamba has arrived

[arh1109]

Could be similar to Ben Wallace but could also be like Hassan Whiteside.

[clyde21]

Some really weird takes this last page.

He's Rudy Gobert with a jump shot. Don't overthink it.

[The-Power]

Some really weird takes this last page.

He's Rudy Gobert with a jump shot. Don't overthink it.

That's being way too generous. That's his ceiling, not his floor.

[Alatan]

Some really weird takes this last page.

He's Rudy Gobert with a jump shot. Don't overthink it.

That's being way too generous. That's his ceiling, not his floor.

He is AD 2.0. That is his ceiling. His floor is Gobert. Just because he dint put up 20 in college doesnt meant that he wont be a good offenisve player down the line. AD, Embiid, Cousins, KAT, neither of them put up 20 ppg in college but shown flashes of great play same as Bamba. Guys like Ayton that dominated moslty because of size and athleticism tend to fall off in the NBA.

[clyde21]

Some really weird takes this last page.

He's Rudy Gobert with a jump shot. Don't overthink it.

That's being way too generous. That's his ceiling, not his floor.

He is AD 2.0. That is his ceiling. His floor is Gobert. Just because he dint put up 20 in college doesnt meant that he wont be a good offenisve player down the line. AD, Embiid, Cousins, KAT, neither of them put up 20 ppg in college but shown flashes of great play same as Bamba. Guys like Ayton that dominated moslty because of size and athleticism tend to fall off in the NBA.

Davis just averaged over 30ppg in the POs. I don't see that level of offense but I agree that expecting a better version of Rudy Gobert isn't crazy. At the same age he's MUCH better offensively than what Gobert was.

[Alatan]

That's being way too generous. That's his ceiling, not his floor.

He is AD 2.0. That is his ceiling. His floor is Gobert. Just because he dint put up 20 in college doesnt meant that he wont be a good offenisve player down the line. AD, Embiid, Cousins, KAT, neither of them put up 20 ppg in college but shown flashes of great play same as Bamba. Guys like Ayton that dominated moslty because of size and athleticism tend to fall off in the NBA.

Davis just averaged over 30ppg in the POs. I don't see that level of offense but I agree that expecting a better version of Rudy Gobert isn't crazy. At the same age he's MUCH better offensively than what Gobert was.

I dont expect Bamba to come in the NBA and immediately average 20ppg but i think with his size, length, athleticism, feel for the game, decent shooting touch and ballhandling ability he will get there eventually. Combine that with his incredible defense and you got an MVP candidate.

[The-Power]

Point is that Gobert is one of the best defenders in the league, and the best player on a 2nd round playoff team. Credit where credit is due, no player in this draft has a floor (!) even close to this. To consider the floor of a prospect to be an All-NBA player is just blind fanboyism and quite a bit disrespectful to a player of Gobert's caliber. Doesn't mean that Bamba's ceiling (!) can't be higher, of course.

[JMac1]

Some really weird takes this last page.

He's Rudy Gobert with a jump shot. Don't overthink it.

That's being way too generous. That's his ceiling, not his floor.

He is AD 2.0. That is his ceiling. His floor is Gobert. Just because he dint put up 20 in college doesnt meant that he wont be a good offenisve player down the line. AD, Embiid, Cousins, KAT, neither of them put up 20 ppg in college but shown flashes of great play same as Bamba. Guys like Ayton that dominated moslty because of size and athleticism tend to fall off in the NBA.

WTH? I usually don't use that emoji very often, it is insulting, not trying to be. But that is crazy. How can you say players who use their size and athleticism to dominate in college usually fail in the NBA and invoke Ayton? lol! Really?! So you saw skill from Bamba and not Ayton? So Bamba is being talked about because of his skill? Insane...

Some people.....

[JMac1]

He is AD 2.0. That is his ceiling. His floor is Gobert. Just because he dint put up 20 in college doesnt meant that he wont be a good offenisve player down the line. AD, Embiid, Cousins, KAT, neither of them put up 20 ppg in college but shown flashes of great play same as Bamba. Guys like Ayton that dominated moslty because of size and athleticism tend to fall off in the NBA.

Davis just averaged over 30ppg in the POs. I don't see that level of offense but I agree that expecting a better version of Rudy Gobert isn't crazy. At the same age he's MUCH better offensively than what Gobert was.

I dont expect Bamba to come in the NBA and immediately average 20ppg but i think with his size, length, athleticism, feel for the game, decent shooting touch and ballhandling ability he will get there eventually. Combine that with his incredible defense and you got an MVP candidate.

Where is this footage? 27% from 3pt 68.7% Free Throw.... I love Bamba, but come on. He is all project offensively. You are purely taking him for defense. If you are expecting him to give you AD's offense, good luck. Again, I'd take him at best number 4. behind Ayton Doncic and Bagley. If he had Ayton's offense, he'd go number one, but he doesn't. Ayton is going ahead of Bagley because of his size. Ayton is a better shooter, but not by much.

Again. I love Bamba, he is guaranteed to be a beast defensively.

[Alatan]

That's being way too generous. That's his ceiling, not his floor.

He is AD 2.0. That is his ceiling. His floor is Gobert. Just because he dint put up 20 in college doesnt meant that he wont be a good offenisve player down the line. AD, Embiid, Cousins, KAT, neither of them put up 20 ppg in college but shown flashes of great play same as Bamba. Guys like Ayton that dominated moslty because of size and athleticism tend to fall off in the NBA.

WTH? I usually don't use that emoji very often, it is insulting, not trying to be. But that is crazy. How can you say players who use their size and athleticism to dominate in college usually fail in the NBA and invoke Ayton? lol! Really?! So you saw skill from Bamba and not Ayton? So Bamba is being talked about because of his skill? Insane...

Some people.....

Bagley and Ayton are far from skilled offensive players. They scored mostly by being bigger and more athletic than their competition. Both of them have some touch on their jumpers but lets not go crazy and deem them shooters.

Ayton shot 34% and 73% on a low volume, with a quite flat jumper than without correction projects to be only a mid ranger in the nba.
Bagley shot 40% and 63% again on a low volume with a very mechanical shot. Since free throw percentage is a better indicator of NBA shooting than college 3 he is also far from a given as a shooter.
Bamba shot 27 and 68% and while he was the worst shooter statistically it was not by much yet he is deemed a non shooter while the previous two can develop a jumper...

Neither of them showed much advanced post moves, ballhandling skills or skill based shot creation. Bagley showed some flashes, same as Bamba but Ayton was really mechanical and mostly got away on size and strength.

If i had more time and will id make a compilation of Bambas ball handling abilities that ive seen from watching him but i dont really care so if you want to see Bambas potential id advise to search if for yourself.

[BadWolf]

Bagley and Ayton... scored mostly by being bigger and more athletic than their competition.

Wasn't that also true for Bamba? Actually even more?

[JMac1]

He is AD 2.0. That is his ceiling. His floor is Gobert. Just because he dint put up 20 in college doesnt meant that he wont be a good offenisve player down the line. AD, Embiid, Cousins, KAT, neither of them put up 20 ppg in college but shown flashes of great play same as Bamba. Guys like Ayton that dominated moslty because of size and athleticism tend to fall off in the NBA.

WTH? I usually don't use that emoji very often, it is insulting, not trying to be. But that is crazy. How can you say players who use their size and athleticism to dominate in college usually fail in the NBA and invoke Ayton? lol! Really?! So you saw skill from Bamba and not Ayton? So Bamba is being talked about because of his skill? Insane...

Some people.....

Bagley and Ayton are far from skilled offensive players. They scored mostly by being bigger and more athletic than their competition. Both of them have some touch on their jumpers but lets not go crazy and deem them shooters.

Ayton shot 34% and 73% on a low volume, with a quite flat jumper than without correction projects to be only a mid ranger in the nba.
Bagley shot 40% and 63% again on a low volume with a very mechanical shot. Since free throw percentage is a better indicator of NBA shooting than college 3 he is also far from a given as a shooter.
Bamba shot 27 and 68% and while he was the worst shooter statistically it was not by much yet he is deemed a non shooter while the previous two can develop a jumper...

Neither of them showed much advanced post moves, ballhandling skills or skill based shot creation. Bagley showed some flashes, same as Bamba but Ayton was really mechanical and mostly got away on size and strength.

If i had more time and will id make a compilation of Bambas ball handling abilities that ive seen from watching him but i dont really care so if you want to see Bambas potential id advise to search if for yourself.

Blah blah blah blah blah....this isn’t about them. It’s about Bamba. You said Ayton would fail because his size and athleticism was the factor in him being good, however you project Bamba to be great when that’s all he has.... stop it. And he isn’t a great athlete like Ayton nor does he have the skill....all size! Lol