Cameron Reddish

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called it after the season, Cam is gonna look sooooo good in workouts. problem is how u reconcile it vs. game tape.

[Stillwater]

I have a really hard time with a prospect with this much skill disappearing for the majority of his freshman season... I mean the workouts will prevent him from falling too far, but there is so much risk of him being another Wiggins type, I'd have to be on my 2nd pick already and had an elite knot twisting skull crushing veteran influence to kick him in the balls until he finds them.

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I have a really hard time with a prospect with this much skill disappearing for the majority of his freshman season... I mean the workouts will prevent him from falling too far, but there is so much risk of him being another Wiggins type, I'd have to be on my 2nd pick already and had an elite knot twisting skull crushing veteran influence to kick him in the balls until he finds them.

Well the reality is that not many players have elite potential. Would it be wonderful if every potential elite player played like it from day 1? Yes. But because we live in the real world, teams have to deal with players as they are. If Cam Reddish ended up on the Spurs, would he be good? Yes. So as much as people want to criticize Cam, perhaps they should focus on making their team becoming a place wwere borderline stars are likely to succeed rather than fail. Switch Andrew Wiggins and Kawhi Leonard starting places. Who has the better career?

[Duke4life831]

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called it after the season, Cam is gonna look sooooo good in workouts. problem is how u reconcile it vs. game tape.

Ya he was the easy pick in my opinion to rise back up because of workouts. 6'8, long, with an effortless jumper. If his jumper is on during workouts, the dude could look like the 2nd pick. Don't think anyone can jump higher than #4, but I can easily see him going 4th, even though LA is stacked with wings.

No doubt Cam has the potential, the dude showed flashes last year, but damn the inconsistencies and inability to drive are frightening. I wouldn't touch him with a 10ft pole with a top 10 pick. Just way too big of a risk.

[clyde21]

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called it after the season, Cam is gonna look sooooo good in workouts. problem is how u reconcile it vs. game tape.

Ya he was the easy pick in my opinion to rise back up because of workouts. 6'8, long, with an effortless jumper. If his jumper is on during workouts, the dude could look like the 2nd pick. Don't think anyone can jump higher than #4, but I can easily see him going 4th, even though LA is stacked with wings.

No doubt Cam has the potential, the dude showed flashes last year, but damn the inconsistencies and inability to drive are frightening. I wouldn't touch him with a 10ft pole with a top 10 pick. Just way too big of a risk.

his ceiling is 5th to Cleveland IMO...i'd think the Lakers would want someone to contribute more immediately (Hunter/Culver?) with their pick if they keep it

but I am with u...on paper he's a stupid talent...but can't justify a top 10 pick based on the tape.

[Stillwater]

I have a really hard time with a prospect with this much skill disappearing for the majority of his freshman season... I mean the workouts will prevent him from falling too far, but there is so much risk of him being another Wiggins type, I'd have to be on my 2nd pick already and had an elite knot twisting skull crushing veteran influence to kick him in the balls until he finds them.

Well the reality is that not many players have elite potential. Would it be wonderful if every potential elite player played like it from day 1? Yes. But because we live in the real world, teams have to deal with players as they are. If Cam Reddish ended up on the Spurs, would he be good? Yes. So as much as people want to criticize Cam, perhaps they should focus on making their team becoming a place wwere borderline stars are likely to succeed rather than fail. Switch Andrew Wiggins and Kawhi Leonard starting places. Who has the better career?

spurs dont draft this chump at 29.and they know how to find steals.

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spurs dont draft this chump at 29.and they know how to find steals.

You're right, but not in the way you mean it. If he convinces the Spurs that he has the attitude/mentality/coachability to buy into the Spurs culture ("being over yourself'), he doesn't fall past 19 (not with his tools and physical ability)... Now if they don't think he has that mentality, you're right they won't draft him at 29 either.

[CoreyVillains]

Since Cam is such a tantalizing prospect I figured for my video’s for him that I’d do one of his good games and one of his not so good games. He’s a really tough guy to get a pulse on. Videos include offense and defense.

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[BlazersBroncos]

If your team is lacking talent to the extent that they are picking top-10, you roll the dice on this kid. Taking the safe pick is for teams that are contending.

To me, if a talent lacking team like Cleveland would pass on Reddish based on game tape, or Bol Bol because of injury worries, your just asking to never become relevant. You have to gamble. Cameron is a worthy gamble.

[CP War Hawks]

You'll notice his feet never leaves the ground on his shot. A bad habit he needs to change. It's nice when you're fresh in a comfortable setting, only tall centers can get away shooting like that.

[Stillwater]

spurs dont draft this chump at 29.and they know how to find steals.

You're right, but not in the way you mean it. If he convinces the Spurs that he has the attitude/mentality/coachability to buy into the Spurs culture ("being over yourself'), he doesn't fall past 19 (not with his tools and physical ability)... Now if they don't think he has that mentality, you're right they won't draft him at 29 either.

Yep, his biggest obstacle is convincing teams he isn't as passive as he showed in college, if he does that he is gone by 10.

[Stillwater]

You'll notice his feet never leaves the ground on his shot. A bad habit he needs to change. It's nice when you're fresh in a comfortable setting, only tall centers can get away shooting like that.

The one thing that seems to be overlooked by alot of his supporters is despite decent athleticism/twitch and the length to finish above the rim in "workout no defender on him settings" is how poorly his abilty is to explode through contact . That also shows up in his 3" jumper.

[Chuck Everett]

Too many games of playing like a bum. He also has motor issues. Not sure why he is still being talked about as a lotto pick. If dude isn't going to play hard, he will be a washout.

[Duke4life831]

You'll notice his feet never leaves the ground on his shot. A bad habit he needs to change. It's nice when you're fresh in a comfortable setting, only tall centers can get away shooting like that.

The one thing that seems to be overlooked by alot of his supporters is despite decent athleticism/twitch and the length to finish above the rim in "workout no defender on him settings" is how poorly his abilty is to explode through contact . That also shows up in his 3" jumper.

I think all of his supporters (if there really are that many big time Cam supporters on here) all acknowledge that one of Cam's biggest weaknesses is his lack of explosion.

Also the barely jumping on his 3pt shot in these workouts isn't a big deal or anything new or a bad habit. Just watch Jayson Tatum shooting in practice, same thing.

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[jonjames]

Cam Reddish is this year's draft biggest hit or miss prospect. With his low key passive demeanor he would need to fall to a team with a good system/culture along with some veterans to guide him and really bring out his full potential. If he goes to any dysfunctional team/organization competing alongside different egos i believe he will get lost in the shuffle.

[Stillwater]

You'll notice his feet never leaves the ground on his shot. A bad habit he needs to change. It's nice when you're fresh in a comfortable setting, only tall centers can get away shooting like that.

The one thing that seems to be overlooked by alot of his supporters is despite decent athleticism/twitch and the length to finish above the rim in "workout no defender on him settings" is how poorly his abilty is to explode through contact . That also shows up in his 3" jumper.

I think all of his supporters (if there really are that many big time Cam supporters on here) all acknowledge that one of Cam's biggest weaknesses is his lack of explosion.

Also the barely jumping on his 3pt shot in these workouts isn't a big deal or anything new or a bad habit. Just watch Jayson Tatum shooting in practice, same thing.

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If any supporters are left they must be ignoring that huge red flag imo wasn't referring to just realgm posters

[Nazrmohamed]

I have a really hard time with a prospect with this much skill disappearing for the majority of his freshman season... I mean the workouts will prevent him from falling too far, but there is so much risk of him being another Wiggins type, I'd have to be on my 2nd pick already and had an elite knot twisting skull crushing veteran influence to kick him in the balls until he finds them.

Well the reality is that not many players have elite potential. Would it be wonderful if every potential elite player played like it from day 1? Yes. But because we live in the real world, teams have to deal with players as they are. If Cam Reddish ended up on the Spurs, would he be good? Yes. So as much as people want to criticize Cam, perhaps they should focus on making their team becoming a place wwere borderline stars are likely to succeed rather than fail. Switch Andrew Wiggins and Kawhi Leonard starting places. Who has the better career?

My thing is that hes already being punished for his production by being ranked anywhere from 8-13 depending on the mocks. I mean, had he performed to expectations hed probably be the second to third pick in the draft. So if you're in that range its technically not a bad pick because his flaws were already factored in. Bad pick is when you draft him way ahead of his value. So for a team like the Hawks, hes a great pick.

I remember there was this poster who loved him for the Hawks. Well there he is at 8 and at 10 they can still take a shot at Bol Bol if they want.

[Stillwater]

I have a really hard time with a prospect with this much skill disappearing for the majority of his freshman season... I mean the workouts will prevent him from falling too far, but there is so much risk of him being another Wiggins type, I'd have to be on my 2nd pick already and had an elite knot twisting skull crushing veteran influence to kick him in the balls until he finds them.

Well the reality is that not many players have elite potential. Would it be wonderful if every potential elite player played like it from day 1? Yes. But because we live in the real world, teams have to deal with players as they are. If Cam Reddish ended up on the Spurs, would he be good? Yes. So as much as people want to criticize Cam, perhaps they should focus on making their team becoming a place wwere borderline stars are likely to succeed rather than fail. Switch Andrew Wiggins and Kawhi Leonard starting places. Who has the better career?

My thing is that hes already being punished for his production by being ranked anywhere from 8-13 depending on the mocks. I mean, had he performed to expectations hed probably be the second to third pick in the draft. So if you're in that range its technically not a bad pick because his flaws were already factored in. Bad pick is when you draft him way ahead of his value. So for a team like the Hawks, hes a great pick.

I remember there was this poster who loved him for the Hawks. Well there he is at 8 and at 10 they can still take a shot at Bol Bol if they want.

Having all the skill in the world and not being able to use it as useless as a injured player.
Some solid development orgs might be conned into thinking he has the work ethic to mold into shape, but in reality he is more likely to bust than any other prospect in the 1st round sans maybe Keldon Johnson or Langford if either are picked before 20.
At best he is a decent defender in time that can hit a league average % of threes and spends the majority of his rookie deal at the end of a rotation after the first year.

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Well the reality is that not many players have elite potential. Would it be wonderful if every potential elite player played like it from day 1? Yes. But because we live in the real world, teams have to deal with players as they are. If Cam Reddish ended up on the Spurs, would he be good? Yes. So as much as people want to criticize Cam, perhaps they should focus on making their team becoming a place wwere borderline stars are likely to succeed rather than fail. Switch Andrew Wiggins and Kawhi Leonard starting places. Who has the better career?

My thing is that hes already being punished for his production by being ranked anywhere from 8-13 depending on the mocks. I mean, had he performed to expectations hed probably be the second to third pick in the draft. So if you're in that range its technically not a bad pick because his flaws were already factored in. Bad pick is when you draft him way ahead of his value. So for a team like the Hawks, hes a great pick.

I remember there was this poster who loved him for the Hawks. Well there he is at 8 and at 10 they can still take a shot at Bol Bol if they want.

Having all the skill in the world and not being able to use it as useless as a injured player.
Some solid development orgs might be conned into thinking he has the work ethic to mold into shape, but in reality he is more likely to bust than any other prospect in the 1st round sans maybe Keldon Johnson or Langford if either are picked before 20.
At best he is a decent defender in time that can hit a league average % of threes and spends the majority of his rookie deal at the end of a rotation after the first year.

Where is the evidence that he doesn't have a solid work ethic? For the life of me I can't understand why every post I read in this thread seems like a personal attack on him. Like did he do something to you personally? Your family? Might Cam not workout? Of course, plenty of draft picks done. Might Cam end up as a role player? Of course. Might he figure it out and put it all together? It's a possibility. But please miss me with the being "conned." No one is talking about him being a top 3 pick, he's lower lottery. Precisely where he should be. What's the difference between Stanley Johnson and Justise Winslow or Kris Dunn and Thon Maker and Cam? Some lottery picks don't pan out. Doesn't mean the player is a bad person or a despicable human being.

[clyde21]

Cam hype full steam ahead

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