clyde21 wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:clyde21 wrote:dude's pretty much out of the league at this point, what happened here? never thought he was gonna be a star but at least a functional player was possible but he's not even that.
Dont want to rub it in or anything, but I believe you and I went back and forth about him a few pages back in this...
Haha just kidding. Honestly I was never really all that high on him. Like I said a few pages back I thought I could see him being a solid guard off the bench. So ya didnt see him being this much of a bust haha.
One of my main takeaways with Culver is shooting form and FT% really is a much better indicator for how good of a shooter a prospect is. Also stay away from guards early in the draft that arent elite athletes and dont have an elite offensive skill. In the NBA he never had anything to fall back on which allowed him to get consistent minutes and without that he just got lost in the shuffle. He didnt have a high level handle, his shot was slow and funky, and he may have been a good leaper but he had no first step.
yea, I didn't think he was gonna be a star or anything, but thought he had enough physical tools and skill to carve out a decent role for himself, 3 years in and the dude is virtually out of the league.
Ya I wasnt high on him and definitely had some big question marks with him, but ya no way did I think hed be essentially out of the league by his 4th year. For instance guys like Naji Marshall have found ways to not just stick on a roster but get legit playing time. I honestly think his offensive struggles probably just got to him. And from that, that ended up effecting him on the defensive end.
Take Justise Winslow for example. He is a guy who's offense never came around in the NBA, he has changed up his shooting form (jumper and FT) so many times already in his career that its at the point everyone knows that part of his game isnt ever coming around. But he hasnt let that effect his defense and him being a high caliber defender has kept him in the NBA and keeps him getting minutes wherever he goes (limited but still getting minutes).
And that is one thing I think especially from a fan perspective we can never really gauge. We dont talk to the coaches, we arent in there in the interviews and stuff. So its really impossible to get any kind of gauge on how a player will handle adversity. Will a player take the Winslow route and probably say to himself "if my offense isnt working, I better make sure Im an elite defensive player." Or do they go the Culver route and what seems like "my offense sucks, I just cant do anything right".