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[EvanZ]

A 7’ wingspan is not similar to 7’3” ws. Who taught you people math?

[EvanZ]

Who are these smaller centers people keep talking about? Jokic, Embiid, Gobert, AD, Lopez, Nurkic...it's like people aren't actually watching the games.

Sengun is not going to be a starting center. Just stop it.

I think the same people saying Sengun is a center thought Marvin Bagley is a center. Nope.

Sengun is highly skilled and he is similar in size to:
Richaun Holmes (6-9; 7-1.5; 242)
Mason Plumlee (6-11; 6-11; 238)
Cody Zeller (6-10.75; 6-10.75; 230)
Bam Adebayo (6-8.75; 7-2.75; 242)
Zach Collins (6-10.25; 7-1; 232)
Nic Claxton (6-10; 7-2.5; 217)
Domantas Sabonis (6-11; 6-11; 240)

Some of those guys are very low end starting centers, and some of them are high-end starting centers. The things separating them are skill and athletecism. Sengun is highly, highly skilled, and he does not look unathletic. Plus, if he grows a bit, he could easily be bigger than these guys.

You’re just lying to yourself with these comps friend.

[EvanZ]

People comparing Sengun to Bam. Amateur hour.

[Charm]

People comparing Sengun to Bam. Amateur hour.

...says the guy who compared Sengun to Saric a couple hours ago

[babyjax13]

Who are these smaller centers people keep talking about? Jokic, Embiid, Gobert, AD, Lopez, Nurkic...it's like people aren't actually watching the games.

Sengun is not going to be a starting center. Just stop it.

I think the same people saying Sengun is a center thought Marvin Bagley is a center. Nope.

Sengun is highly skilled and he is similar in size to:
Richaun Holmes (6-9; 7-1.5; 242)
Mason Plumlee (6-11; 6-11; 238)
Cody Zeller (6-10.75; 6-10.75; 230)
Bam Adebayo (6-8.75; 7-2.75; 242)
Zach Collins (6-10.25; 7-1; 232)
Nic Claxton (6-10; 7-2.5; 217)
Domantas Sabonis (6-11; 6-11; 240)

Some of those guys are very low end starting centers, and some of them are high-end starting centers. The things separating them are skill and athletecism. Sengun is highly, highly skilled, and he does not look unathletic. Plus, if he grows a bit, he could easily be bigger than these guys.

You’re just lying to yourself with these comps friend.

How so? He has been measured at 205cm (6-9) and all the measurement data available online suggests his wingspan is 7-0. It has been since (I assume) the beginning of the season [September 2020] since we've gotten a lot of these measurements so he could easily be a bit bigger (I've seen 207cm floating around), and he could easily grow a bit in his first couple of years in the league. So how am I lying to myself? That kind of statement just seems like an example of dick waiving, unless your argument is that those measurements are wrong - in which case, sure, believe that and maybe you'll be right, but we have no evidence to the contrary right now. The data we have suggests he will be between 6-9 and 6-11, and his wingspan will be 7-0 to 7-1 when he gets measured, that puts him right in the same area as the guys I've posted above in terms of size.

[babyjax13]

People comparing Sengun to Bam. Amateur hour.

I am comparing their height and wingspan to establish that Sengun is not out of the ordinary for a starting center, that should be pretty obvious, unless you just want to assume that everyone is intellectually inferior to you.

[EvanZ]

People comparing Sengun to Bam. Amateur hour.

I am comparing their height and wingspan to establish that Sengun is not out of the ordinary for a starting center, that should be pretty obvious, unless you just want to assume that everyone is intellectually inferior to you.

He is definitely out of the ordinary in terms of starting center size. You are just bad at numbers.

You compared him to Robert Williams for goddsake man. Robert Williams has a 7'4" wingspan and is a much much better athlete. Bam is a much much better athlete and has like a 7'2" wingspan.

Sengun is sized like Sabonis who last I checked *is not a starting center*. Why you even put him on your list I have no idea.

[EvanZ]

People comparing Sengun to Bam. Amateur hour.

...says the guy who compared Sengun to Saric a couple hours ago

I mean...yes, it's a much much much more appropriate comp for him. But please go on.

[EMG518]

People comparing Sengun to Bam. Amateur hour.

I am comparing their height and wingspan to establish that Sengun is not out of the ordinary for a starting center, that should be pretty obvious, unless you just want to assume that everyone is intellectually inferior to you.

I dont think he can play any other position besides center. I personally see him as someone who could make a rotation, give energy, rebound, 6 fouls, and bother the other team down low for 15 minutes. I don't see why people would take him top 20 in the draft.

[Charm]

People comparing Sengun to Bam. Amateur hour.

...says the guy who compared Sengun to Saric a couple hours ago

I mean...yes, it's a much much much more appropriate comp for him. But please go on.

I don’t think I will…if you seriously think Saric is a good comp for Sengun, you’re beyond help.

[babyjax13]

People comparing Sengun to Bam. Amateur hour.

I am comparing their height and wingspan to establish that Sengun is not out of the ordinary for a starting center, that should be pretty obvious, unless you just want to assume that everyone is intellectually inferior to you.

He is definitely out of the ordinary in terms of starting center size. You are just bad at numbers.

You compared him to Robert Williams for goddsake man. Robert Williams has a 7'4" wingspan and is a much much better athlete. Bam is a much much better athlete and has like a 7'2" wingspan.

Sengun is sized like Sabonis who last I checked *is not a starting center*. Why you even put him on your list I have no idea.

On just about any team other than Indiana Sabonis would be starting at center, I'm not sure how that's a controversial take. But let's put that aside and take him off the list. My point was that plenty of starting centers are similar in size to Sengun, yes, plenty are bigger - so we could randomly pull out Robert Williams, Nikola Vucevic, or whoever. Sengun's appeal is his seemingly high skill level and motor, if he's going to be successful it's going to be because of those qualities, he's not going to be limited because he's abnormally small for a center because he's a fairly typical size. Could he be limited because he gets taken advantage of in PnRs? Maybe. Is he like ... idk ... 80th percentile in height and wingspan for an NBA center? Certainly not.

And I'm not sure where you are pulling this "you compared him to Robert Williams" thing from, he was not on the list. I went through combine measurements and found starting centers of roughly a similar size (+ Claxton b/c he likely would have started more games if not injured).

[babyjax13]

People comparing Sengun to Bam. Amateur hour.

I am comparing their height and wingspan to establish that Sengun is not out of the ordinary for a starting center, that should be pretty obvious, unless you just want to assume that everyone is intellectually inferior to you.

I dont think he can play any other position besides center. I personally see him as someone who could make a rotation, give energy, rebound, 6 fouls, and bother the other team down low for 15 minutes. I don't see why people would take him top 20 in the draft.

That's fine, my only point was that his size is not what is going to limit him from being a starting center in the league. I could easily see him not having the lateral mobility to defend the PnR, for example, but if his measurements are accurate and/or if he has grown even a little bit, he has the size to hang with the majority of players he'd encounter as a starting center.

[Hal14]

People comparing Sengun to Bam. Amateur hour.

They were simply comparing them in terms of size.

They are similar size-wise.

Bam is obviously more athletic, but i don't think the athleticism difference is massive. As others have mentioned and posted footage to back it up, Sengun is pretty athletic for a guy his size.

And Sengun is obviously more skilled than Bam when he was 18..

Sengun put up better numbers this season at age 18 than Bam did when Bam was a freshman in college at age 19...and Sengun did it vs better competition..

[Hal14]

People comparing Sengun to Bam. Amateur hour.

I am comparing their height and wingspan to establish that Sengun is not out of the ordinary for a starting center, that should be pretty obvious, unless you just want to assume that everyone is intellectually inferior to you.

He is definitely out of the ordinary in terms of starting center size. You are just bad at numbers.

You compared him to Robert Williams for goddsake man. Robert Williams has a 7'4" wingspan and is a much much better athlete. Bam is a much much better athlete and has like a 7'2" wingspan.

Sengun is sized like Sabonis who last I checked *is not a starting center*. Why you even put him on your list I have no idea.

Sabonis is not a starting center because he's on the Pacers who have Turner. Indiana basically starts 2 centers, which is one of the reasons why they have struggled over the past couple years...because the NBA has evolved, and you can no longer start 2 guys who are that big anymore - if you do, they must be more mobile than Sabonis and Turner are.

[Curtis Lemansky]

People comparing Sengun to Bam. Amateur hour.

I am comparing their height and wingspan to establish that Sengun is not out of the ordinary for a starting center, that should be pretty obvious, unless you just want to assume that everyone is intellectually inferior to you.

He is definitely out of the ordinary in terms of starting center size. You are just bad at numbers.

You compared him to Robert Williams for goddsake man. Robert Williams has a 7'4" wingspan and is a much much better athlete. Bam is a much much better athlete and has like a 7'2" wingspan.

Sengun is sized like Sabonis who last I checked *is not a starting center*. Why you even put him on your list I have no idea.

You should check again.

Sabonis played 50% of his minutes at center this season, 47% in the previous season - and 76% and 81% of his minutes come at the center in the preceding 2 years.

You can actually make a really good argument that he is actually a center who is forced to play PF because of Myles Turner.

[Mirotic12]

He is definitely out of the ordinary in terms of starting center size. You are just bad at numbers.

You compared him to Robert Williams for goddsake man. Robert Williams has a 7'4" wingspan and is a much much better athlete. Bam is a much much better athlete and has like a 7'2" wingspan.

Sengun is sized like Sabonis who last I checked *is not a starting center*. Why you even put him on your list I have no idea.

Numerous guys are used in the NBA as small ball centers that are like 6-8 or smaller. The Warriors won 3 championships and played in 5 straight finals playing Draymond Green a lot at center. He's 6-6. The Pistons came within 1 quarter of winning 2 championships playing Ben Wallace a lot at center. He's 6-7. I am using the barefoot heights, because Sengun's listings would be barefoot.

The Suns used Amare Stoudemire (6-9 or 6-10 barefoot depending on the source, with 7-2 wingspan) for years as a center, and had lots of success.

Al Horford (6-9 without shoes and 7-1 wingspan) was a key piece on several playoff teams, where he was playing a lot of center.

The Nets are currently using Blake Griffin (6-9 barefoot and 6-11 wingspan) as a center, and could very well win a championship.

Domantas Sabonis - 6-10 without shoes and 6-10 wingspan, or 6-11 without shoes and 6-11 wingspan (depending on source)

Enes Kanter - 6-10 without shoes and 7-1 wingspan.

Khem Birch - 6-8 without shoes and 7-1 wingspan.

Daniel Thies - 6-8 without shoes and 7-0 wingspan.

Etc., etc.

The concept that you have to be a 7-0 dinosaur to be an NBA center, ended quite awhile ago.

[EvanZ]

People keep talking about guys like Sabonis as a center. What does that make Myles Turner? Come on.

As for opinions, here's what people think about the Bam comp:

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[EvanZ]

...says the guy who compared Sengun to Saric a couple hours ago

I mean...yes, it's a much much much more appropriate comp for him. But please go on.

I don’t think I will…if you seriously think Saric is a good comp for Sengun, you’re beyond help.

Oh? I guess a lot of people need help then.

Read on Twitter

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[Charm]

I mean...yes, it's a much much much more appropriate comp for him. But please go on.

I don’t think I will…if you seriously think Saric is a good comp for Sengun, you’re beyond help.

Oh? I guess a lot of people need help then.

Read on Twitter

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Yeah, I mean, probably less than half of people on twitter could find Turkey on a map. Welcome to the internet.

[EvanZ]

Yeah, I mean, probably less than half of people on twitter could find Turkey on a map. Welcome to the internet.

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