2023 NBA Draft

[Creativetran]

Just look at the guy's size, handles and mobility in this video. Keep in mind this dude can and might get listed as a 7 footer in the NBA.

Honestly for a highlite reel, I'm not too impressed. Anyone else got that feeling watching this video? btw, this is the 1st time I seen this kid so this is the only video I've seen so I don't know much of him yet.

[Creativetran]

Unless they’re standing on a slope I don’t see how where they’re standing matters when comparing their heights.

You know anything about prospective?

[BostonCouchGM]

wow. a lot of love for scoot. how tall is he? i've heard anything from 6'2" to 6'4". if 6'2", i'm not buying. if 6'4" and he can legitimately play lead guard, sure, count me in.

whitmore will be the best player in the class.

I think he's 6'1" in sneakers. There's a photo of him standing next to 6'4" Anthony Edwards (Scoot was 16 y/o) and he's clearly close to 4" shorter. That said, he's 100% capable of playing lead guard due to his elite handle, BBIQ and athleticism. I personally think he's right there with the best PG prospects we've seen alongside guys like Rose, Kyrie, Trae and Ja. I don't think people realize how impressive it is that he was dominating much older guys at just 17 y/o. This next season he might prove to be so good that he might need to shut it down early. I admit I was a little skeptical due to his size and shooting but the more I dug into him it's clear as day he's just different. Like the greats are just different. What swayed me was his ability to blow by pretty much every defender whether they had a good reputation as a defender or not. And I saw him hustle and try on defense which is more than I can say for so many PGs in the league. We likely won't get any official measurements as he'll skip those at the combine but if there's any indication he's grown or I'm wrong and he's close to 6'3" he could go #1.

He did not dominate in the G League.

21-7-5 PER 36 as a 17 y/o playing against lots of grown men. That’s pretty dominant. And this despite shooting poorly

[shangrila]

Unless they’re standing on a slope I don’t see how where they’re standing matters when comparing their heights.

You know anything about prospective?

Not much, no.

I know about perspective though.

[MemphisX]

I think he's 6'1" in sneakers. There's a photo of him standing next to 6'4" Anthony Edwards (Scoot was 16 y/o) and he's clearly close to 4" shorter. That said, he's 100% capable of playing lead guard due to his elite handle, BBIQ and athleticism. I personally think he's right there with the best PG prospects we've seen alongside guys like Rose, Kyrie, Trae and Ja. I don't think people realize how impressive it is that he was dominating much older guys at just 17 y/o. This next season he might prove to be so good that he might need to shut it down early. I admit I was a little skeptical due to his size and shooting but the more I dug into him it's clear as day he's just different. Like the greats are just different. What swayed me was his ability to blow by pretty much every defender whether they had a good reputation as a defender or not. And I saw him hustle and try on defense which is more than I can say for so many PGs in the league. We likely won't get any official measurements as he'll skip those at the combine but if there's any indication he's grown or I'm wrong and he's close to 6'3" he could go #1.

He did not dominate in the G League.

21-7-5 PER 36 as a 17 y/o playing against lots of grown men. That’s pretty dominant. And this despite shooting poorly

No, it is not dominant and the caveats of "per 36" and "against grown men" makes that obvious. Dominating would not need qualifiers.

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Just look at the guy's size, handles and mobility in this video. Keep in mind this dude can and might get listed as a 7 footer in the NBA.

Honestly for a highlite reel, I'm not too impressed. Anyone else got that feeling watching this video? btw, this is the 1st time I seen this kid so this is the only video I've seen so I don't know much of him yet.

No clue what video you're talking about

[Colbinii]

Unless they’re standing on a slope I don’t see how where they’re standing matters when comparing their heights.

You know anything about prospective?

Not much, no.

I know about perspective though.

[Creativetran]

Just look at the guy's size, handles and mobility in this video. Keep in mind this dude can and might get listed as a 7 footer in the NBA.

Honestly for a highlite reel, I'm not too impressed. Anyone else got that feeling watching this video? btw, this is the 1st time I seen this kid so this is the only video I've seen so I don't know much of him yet.

No clue what video you're talking about

Damn your right, it was a video at the start of this thread with a white guy. My bad cut out too much when replying

[BostonCouchGM]

He did not dominate in the G League.

21-7-5 PER 36 as a 17 y/o playing against lots of grown men. That’s pretty dominant. And this despite shooting poorly

No, it is not dominant and the caveats of "per 36" and "against grown men" makes that obvious. Dominating would not need qualifiers.

please. Now we're pretending that a 17 y/o often going up against guys sometimes 2-3 years more developed doesn't matter? And the PER 36 is because he didn't play that many games and minutes so it normalizes his production versus others that did.

[MemphisX]

21-7-5 PER 36 as a 17 y/o playing against lots of grown men. That’s pretty dominant. And this despite shooting poorly

No, it is not dominant and the caveats of "per 36" and "against grown men" makes that obvious. Dominating would not need qualifiers.

please. Now we're pretending that a 17 y/o often going up against guys sometimes 2-3 years more developed doesn't matter? And the PER 36 is because he didn't play that many games and minutes so it normalizes his production versus others that did.

The fact that you keep qualifying his production means you know he wasn't dominant. Nobody said his production wasn't good for a 17 year old. However, he is the only 17 year old to ever play in the G League, so what exactly are you measuring it against?

[MemphisX]

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[babyjax13]

No, it is not dominant and the caveats of "per 36" and "against grown men" makes that obvious. Dominating would not need qualifiers.

please. Now we're pretending that a 17 y/o often going up against guys sometimes 2-3 years more developed doesn't matter? And the PER 36 is because he didn't play that many games and minutes so it normalizes his production versus others that did.

The fact that you keep qualifying his production means you know he wasn't dominant. Nobody said his production wasn't good for a 17 year old. However, he is the only 17 year old to ever play in the G League, so what exactly are you measuring it against?

It's a good point that we don't have a comparison for a 17 year old in the gleague, but we do have comps with 18 year olds. The only player on the prior year ignite squad who played clearly better was Jalen Green. Scoot was as good as (IMO better than) Kuminga and Todd (who had a different role coming off the bench). No one else on that team came close. So, he was comparable to a lottery talent while a year younger. I think it's a reasonable expectation to think he improves at least a little bit from last year to this year, but with the fact that he still has some physical development to go through, I wouldn't be surprised if he has the best season of a gleague ignite player next year (better than Green).

[babyjax13]

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I really like George and that he went to Baylor. I'd be shocked if he was not top 10.

[cms11]

tentative prelim top 5ish

Victor Wembanyama
Scoot Henderson
Dariq Whitehead
Keyontae George
Anthony Black
Brandon Miller
Nick Smith Jr.

really liking the class overall, won't be as good as 21 but clearly ahead of 22 imo.

I take Scoot #1. Wemby is already hurt again so give me the sure thing in Scoot.

[cms11]

please. Now we're pretending that a 17 y/o often going up against guys sometimes 2-3 years more developed doesn't matter? And the PER 36 is because he didn't play that many games and minutes so it normalizes his production versus others that did.

The fact that you keep qualifying his production means you know he wasn't dominant. Nobody said his production wasn't good for a 17 year old. However, he is the only 17 year old to ever play in the G League, so what exactly are you measuring it against?

It's a good point that we don't have a comparison for a 17 year old in the gleague, but we do have comps with 18 year olds. The only player on the prior year ignite squad who played clearly better was Jalen Green. Scoot was as good as (IMO better than) Kuminga and Todd (who had a different role coming off the bench). No one else on that team came close. So, he was comparable to a lottery talent while a year younger. I think it's a reasonable expectation to think he improves at least a little bit from last year to this year, but with the fact that he still has some physical development to go through, I wouldn't be surprised if he has the best season of a gleague ignite player next year (better than Green).

The way I look at it is Ja Morant wasn't even dominant in *high school* at Scoot's age while Scoot was playing against older pros. I look at what Ja became and see a similar trajectory over the next few years.

[cms11]

just really hard for a short dude to be a great nba player. you look at the top 10 players in the league, Steph is the only "short" guy on the list and we know what a unicorn he is. and even he is 6'3+. if scoot is only 6'1" - there is just so much to overcome in order for him to become a superstar. you take a guy like that top 3 you are praying a million things go right in order to justify his draft slot.

just not sure the risk/reward is on your side if you draft a dude that short that early.

Scoot was next to 6'2" Bones Hyland at the NBA Rising Stars game introduction and they looked like the exact same height. Also, Ja, Trae, Lilliard, and Garland are all that height.

[zimpy27]

Shame about the name 'Scoot'..

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I see lots of people on twitter putting Baba Miller in the 11-12 range on early big boards.

While some of the highlights do look very impressive, when you dig into the film of his most recent games, it doesn't look that great:

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This is 4 recent games. He's number 18 on Real Madrid. I'm not really seeing a guy who screams lottery pick here. I see a guy who is about 6'9", fairly athletic, has some flashes of skill but is a long ways away and simply doesn't make a whole lot of impact on the game.

I've got him as a 2nd round draft and stash guy for now, with the possibility of moving up into the 1st round if he plays well at Florida St this season..

Again, not seeing the lottery pick that many on Twitter are seeing..

[cms11]

Shame about the name 'Scoot'..

His real name is Sterling. His childhood nickname was "Scoota" for how he scooted around the floor as a toddler and it's recently been shortened to "Scoot".

[WargamesX]

Shame about the name 'Scoot'..

His real name is Sterling. His childhood nickname was "Scoota" for how he scooted around the floor as a toddler and it's recently been shortened to "Scoot".

Sterling is a great first name…. Word to Archer