Kon Knueppel

Chuck Everett · Post #341 » by **Chuck Everett** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:21 am

JMAC3 wrote:Would you rather take Kon 5th or Liam McNeely 25th?

Why not both?

JMAC3 · Post #342 » by **JMAC3** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:27 am

Chuck Everett wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:Would you rather take Kon 5th or Liam McNeely 25th?

Why not both?

Yup pretty much my nightmare lol

Post #343 » by **Klomp** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:00 am

Charlotte has two go-to top options in Ball and Miller. These two gives them safety valves to take pressure off of them and make shots.

tmorgan · Post #344 » by **tmorgan** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:12 am

Well, we’re about to f around and find out for Kon.

I’m skeptical, and think it’s a godawful pick, but he does fit. Dunno how much on-ball he’s gonna get, but the movement shooting is the current area of development anyway.

The-Power · Post #345 » by **The-Power** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:29 am

Klomp wrote:Charlotte has two go-to top options in Ball and Miller. These two gives them safety valves to take pressure off of them and make shots.

Offensively, I think this is just fine (though the ability to pressure the rim remains a concern). It's on defense where the issues are piling up IMO.

Chuck Everett · Post #346 » by **Chuck Everett** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:47 am

tmorgan wrote:Well, we’re about to f around and find out for Kon.

I’m skeptical, and think it’s a godawful pick, but he does fit. Dunno how much on-ball he’s gonna get, but the movement shooting is the current area of development anyway.

So Charlotte may be must watch for all the wrong reasons?

tmorgan · Post #347 » by **tmorgan** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:51 pm

Chuck Everett wrote:
tmorgan wrote:Well, we’re about to f around and find out for Kon.

I’m skeptical, and think it’s a godawful pick, but he does fit. Dunno how much on-ball he’s gonna get, but the movement shooting is the current area of development anyway.

So Charlotte may be must watch for all the wrong reasons?

Maybe we’re going to see some kind of crazy science experiment season. I’m guessing it’s gonna be gruesome.

azcatz11 · Post #348 » by **azcatz11** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:38 pm

Im still high on McNeely and I saw most UConn games last season. Elite size. Great movement shooter. Solo ball sucks and brought Liam down.

Post #349 » by **Klomp** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:12 pm

The-Power wrote:
Klomp wrote:Charlotte has two go-to top options in Ball and Miller. These two gives them safety valves to take pressure off of them and make shots.

Offensively, I think this is just fine (though the ability to pressure the rim remains a concern). It's on defense where the issues are piling up IMO.

So basically, they probably won't be a title contender this year. Good to know.

The-Power · Post #350 » by **The-Power** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:34 pm

Klomp wrote:
The-Power wrote:
Klomp wrote:Charlotte has two go-to top options in Ball and Miller. These two gives them safety valves to take pressure off of them and make shots.

Offensively, I think this is just fine (though the ability to pressure the rim remains a concern). It's on defense where the issues are piling up IMO.

So basically, they probably won't be a title contender this year. Good to know.

Odd interpretation of my words and I didn't expect this unnecessary sarcasm to a normal response from you but whatever.

Post #351 » by **Klomp** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:41 pm

The-Power wrote:
Klomp wrote:
The-Power wrote:Offensively, I think this is just fine (though the ability to pressure the rim remains a concern). It's on defense where the issues are piling up IMO.

So basically, they probably won't be a title contender this year. Good to know.

Odd interpretation of my words and I didn't expect this unnecessary sarcasm to a normal response from you but whatever.

I'm just sayin....Charlotte is not far in roster construction. Some might say that's why you just go BPA and ignore fit, but I think that's exactly how you end up in the situation Charlotte, Washington and others have found themself in.

I don't think the Hornets would have maximized value if they went with Bailey or Johnson. They already have two cornerstone go-to guards. I'd worry one of them would turn into a JR Smith or Nick Young as a result.

Of course they have concerns on defense. But unless they drafted Maluach (who is no sure thing either), the concerns would still be there.

BigGargamel · Post #352 » by **BigGargamel** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:03 pm

BigGargamel wrote:
FarBeyondDriven wrote:this would be a fireable offense to take him in the top half of the lottery. Which G.M. is that secure in their job?

I think he's the last player in that tier 3 of wings (Bailey, Fears, Johnson, Edgecombe), so I'd be comfortable taking him at 7 or 8. But I am 95% convinced Charlotte is going to take him at four, because they're the Charlotte Hornets.

Saw this coming a mile away. :lol:

This is why you shouldn't go with "team needs" in the top five. Give me Fears instead, I don't care if he needs the ball like LaMelo needs the ball. Hornets need talent. Taking a role player in the top 5 is nuts, such a Charlotte thing to do.

Upperclass · Post #353 » by **Upperclass** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 10:16 pm

Charlotte drafted their 2026 and beyond backcourt in Kon and McNeely. Ball will be playing for the Wiz or someone at some point in the next 2 season.

Upperclass · Post #354 » by **Upperclass** » Mon Jul 21, 2025 5:39 am

LMAO at the takes in this thread

FarBeyondDriven · Post #355 » by **FarBeyondDriven** » Mon Jul 21, 2025 6:24 am

Upperclass wrote:LMAO at the takes in this thread

why, because they won the SL :lol:

? He didn't embarrass himself which is good. I just have doubts much of anything will translate especially with Ball still there during the RS. I think I'd feel much better about the Hornets and Kon if they had Garland at PG which would get the ball in the hands of he and McNeeley's more and help spacing which they both need to operate in the mid-range as playmakers and scorers. And I'm real concerned about defense. I think the Hornets will be a lot of fun to watch with their scoring being much better but it will be negated almost entirely by their defense. I'm not sure they can win 30 games even in an injury depleted East.

Upperclass · Post #356 » by **Upperclass** » Mon Jul 21, 2025 11:16 am

Hornets are a playoff team. Kon is the reason Ball gets traded. His defense in SL was as good as his offense..

EmpireFalls · Post #357 » by **EmpireFalls** » Mon Jul 21, 2025 11:43 am

FarBeyondDriven wrote:
Upperclass wrote:LMAO at the takes in this thread

why, because they won the SL ? He didn't embarrass himself which is good. I just have doubts much of anything will translate especially with Ball still there during the RS. I think I'd feel much better about the Hornets and Kon if they had Garland at PG which would get the ball in the hands of he and McNeeley's more and help spacing which they both need to operate in the mid-range as playmakers and scorers. And I'm real concerned about defense. I think the Hornets will be a lot of fun to watch with their scoring being much better but it will be negated almost entirely by their defense. I'm not sure they can win 30 games even in an injury depleted East.

Ew. Garland is barely an upgrade on Ball in terms of the health department, his defense is awful, and it would take significant assets to get him. That would be the exact opposite move we should be trying to make, all of our assets need to go to frontcourt. LaMelo isn’t even close to the problem with this team and if you think he is you simply don’t understand basketball. The problem is the worst 4 and 5 rotation in the NBA, numerous G-Leaguers and NPCs rotating at the wings and 2 guards, a selfish Miles Bridges shot chucking, and injuries to Mann, Williams, Miller, and the other Williams.

Those were far bigger issues than LaMelo.

Anyway I still agree with you that the team will suck; but that doesn’t mean Kon was a bad pick. I was similarly low on him but he’s proven his smarts and I think he’ll be a useful player.

Post #358 » by **Klomp** » Mon Jul 21, 2025 4:20 pm

Charlotte will be better this upcoming season, if only due to health. They only had two regular starters who started more than 50 games last season. That's a rather significant string of bad injury luck for one season.

People will joke about the defense, but they actually competed on that end and were league average last season. With a coach like Charles Lee, I expect that to continue at the very least, if not improve. Where they really struggled last season was on offense. Part of that was due to injuries, but I also believe they lacked quality third/fourth-type options that are necessary once initial actions break down. Thats why a guy like Kon Knueppel is so important. I don't think anyone expects him to be James Harden or Anthony Edwards as SGs, but even just being a solid starter can really benefit a team that was the worst offense in the league last year.

BigGargamel · Post #359 » by **BigGargamel** » Mon Jul 21, 2025 5:57 pm

Upperclass wrote:Hornets are a playoff team. Kon is the reason Ball gets traded. His defense in SL was as good as his offense..

I can't tell if this is a troll or not, but Summer League. :lol:

People fall for this stuff every year.

Post #360 » by **Klomp** » Mon Jul 21, 2025 7:11 pm

BigGargamel wrote:
Upperclass wrote:Hornets are a playoff team. Kon is the reason Ball gets traded. His defense in SL was as good as his offense..

I can't tell if this is a troll or not, but Summer League. People fall for this stuff every year.

It's not as high of a bar as you think....in the East, sub-.500 teams make the playoffs.