Iman Shumpert's Enigma

[BOONE SQUAD]

If the Knicks are seriously going to try and develop Shumpert as a point guard Shumpert is a LOCK to fail.

I mean for crying out loud Shumpert can't throw a freaking entry pass to a post player.

[Weems]

why did you ask what people thought about Iman Shrumpert when you clearly have your mind made up?

Yeah, pretty weird to ask for responses on the pick and scrutinize others when they don't get down on their knees and worship it.

Considering no one thought much of him until workouts, he's probably not the steal of the century. He absolutely has the potential to be a lock down defender and if he has developed a jumper, then he probably is a good selection. Fair to say.

[TrueWarrior]

why did you ask what people thought about Iman Shrumpert when you clearly have your mind made up?

Yeah, pretty weird to ask for responses on the pick and scrutinize others when they don't get down on their knees and worship it.

Considering no one thought much of him until workouts, he's probably not the steal of the century. He absolutely has the potential to be a lock down defender and if he has developed a jumper, then he probably is a good selection.

Why are people acting like Im the first person to start a thread with an opinion? Im not criticizing anything but bad arguments. I like the banter.

If the Knicks are seriously going to try and develop Shumpert as a point guard Shumpert is a LOCK to fail.

I mean for crying out loud Shumpert can't throw a freaking entry pass to a post player.

Well his ceiling is obviously higher as a PG so thats what they're going to try and develop him as first. The good thing about Iman though is that if he doesnt workout as a PG hes not a LOCK to fail, since he has the size to play SG. Hes going to have to improve his shooting no matter what position he plays anyway.

This thread ran its course though. I just wanted to see where you guys stood. Of course Im going to defend my player, so we'll see what happens when the games start.

[CablexDeadpool]

Iman Shumpert is terrible

he chucks shots

can't get assists cause he won't pass

He's just not a point guard.

Only thing good about him is the fact he can play defense, other than that, don't expect him to do anything but play d

[Ruzious]

By all means I want opinions, but I can tell when posters have no clue about the Knicks since they talk the same ish over and over. Im making a case for Iman, and you're free to make one against as long as you actually understand the Knicks' situation a little.

The only way I can see somebody not liking the Shumpert pick is if they think hes clearly a couple steps below Singleton and Faried or whoever. I dont think he is, and when you factor he would actually get playing time it was a no brainer in the end.

If you're expecting Shumpert to ever be a starter... I'm not sure there's a basis for a reasonable conversation. Singleton and Faried are far better players, and they are outstanding defenders. A decent coach can find a way to get them minutes. Dallas just won an NBA championship while giving significant minutes to 3 different PGs.

You calling Faried an outstanding defender shows that you are posting nonsense. Faried isn't a good defender at all. His only value right now is rebounding. He's gonna get killed in the post. Iman is on the same level as Singleton as a prospect. The difference is that one plays sf and the other plays sg.

How ironic is it to be insulted by Knicks fans. Anyway, Faried is definitely under-sized and may not become a starter because of that, but he's got special qualities. There may not be another player who could have made the block he made to clinch the Louisville game - running out to the perimeter, stopping on a dime, and going straight up to block the shot. He can be the ultimate energy defender/rebounder off the bench. Yes, he's short, but he's extremely strong in the Ben Wallace mold, has great body control, athleticism, energy, anticipation, and quick hands. He could help any team win games. I would bet the farm, the mortgage, and my first-born son that Faried has a more successful NBA career than Shumpert.

[bronxknicksfan1]

If you're expecting Shumpert to ever be a starter... I'm not sure there's a basis for a reasonable conversation. Singleton and Faried are far better players, and they are outstanding defenders. A decent coach can find a way to get them minutes. Dallas just won an NBA championship while giving significant minutes to 3 different PGs.

You calling Faried an outstanding defender shows that you are posting nonsense. Faried isn't a good defender at all. His only value right now is rebounding. He's gonna get killed in the post. Iman is on the same level as Singleton as a prospect. The difference is that one plays sf and the other plays sg.

How ironic is it to be insulted by Knicks fans. Anyway, Faried is definitely under-sized and may not become a starter because of that, but he's got special qualities. There may not be another player who could have made the block he made to clinch the Louisville game - running out to the perimeter, stopping on a dime, and going straight up to block the shot. He can be the ultimate energy defender/rebounder off the bench. Yes, he's short, but he's extremely strong in the Ben Wallace mold, has great body control, athleticism, energy, anticipation, and quick hands. He could help any team win games. I would bet the farm, the mortgage, and my first-born son that Faried has a more successful NBA career than Shumpert.

I'll remember this

[Ruzious]

You calling Faried an outstanding defender shows that you are posting nonsense. Faried isn't a good defender at all. His only value right now is rebounding. He's gonna get killed in the post. Iman is on the same level as Singleton as a prospect. The difference is that one plays sf and the other plays sg.

How ironic is it to be insulted by Knicks fans. Anyway, Faried is definitely under-sized and may not become a starter because of that, but he's got special qualities. There may not be another player who could have made the block he made to clinch the Louisville game - running out to the perimeter, stopping on a dime, and going straight up to block the shot. He can be the ultimate energy defender/rebounder off the bench. Yes, he's short, but he's extremely strong in the Ben Wallace mold, has great body control, athleticism, energy, anticipation, and quick hands. He could help any team win games. I would bet the farm, the mortgage, and my first-born son that Faried has a more successful NBA career than Shumpert.

I'll remember this

Good. Feel free to pay my mortgage - and I don't have a farm or a son.

I should have thrown in some Madoff stock, as well.

[ronnymac2]

I wasn't a fan before the draft, but looking at it now, I think it was a solid choice. Here is my explanation from my blog:


"The New York Knicks selected Iman Shumpert out of Georgia Tech with the 17th pick of the NBA draft last month, a decision that has gotten mixed reviews. I feel I can pretty much project this guy as Michael Jordan II and not get proven wrong seeing as how the NBA is never going to play another game again, but doomsday lockout scenarios are far too depressing to talk about on a holiday weekend.

Apparently, Shumpert is a ridiculous athlete, a top-of-the-list run/jump draftee with length. Any and every team can use a player like that. If a long perimeter athlete develops enough brains to play smart team ball, he can usually find a way to be a championship role player. He can also be one of the many talented flameouts who have graced the modern era of the NBA.

Shumpert is going to be a lead guard in the NBA, not a pure point. He wasn't a pure point in college, and because of his size and the fact that it's difficult to transition into an NBA point guard once you're in the NBA, I think he'll be a wing with handles that can play point occasionally. With his athletic tools, he should be a solid defender, especially in terms of closing out on three-point shooters, something the Knicks could greatly use right now.

The Knicks need size and a young pure point guard who can grow with Amar'e Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony. Chauncey Billups is one of the best point guards of his generation, but he is declining. I feel like the Knicks are either extremely confident they can lure Chris Paul or Deron Williams to N.Y., or they think Toney Douglas brings what they need already.

Shumpert is a solid pick overall. He doesn't fill N.Y.'s most pressing needs, but he shores up some weaknesses the Knicks had and makes them more athletic. The board at 17 was bare of any sure pick that could address the major team needs, and it would have been counterproductive to try to fit a square peg in a round hole just for the sake of showing the public that they understand what needs to be done. It was a better decision to shore up a secondary weakness of wing depth and perimeter closeout ability. And absolute best case scenario, he turns into an explosive peripheral scorer.

Or maybe Michael Jordan... "

The link for the blog itself is in my sig.

Don't take the Jordan name-drop seriously. It was just a continuation of the joke in the opening.