Quincy Miller

#1 pick · Post #41 » by **#1 pick** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:07 am

Miller has the talent but it's the drive that would separate him. We will see.

hovermaster97 · Post #42 » by **hovermaster97** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:56 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWaUAX02mxY[/youtube]

Geaux_Hawks · Post #43 » by **Geaux_Hawks** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:37 am

I can't wait to watch Baylor this year. I'm very high on Miller & Perry. I think both will have big seasons at Baylor. Quincy is a lot better than Harrison Barnes imo. The injury is was a set back for miller, but once he is back to 100%, then he will be a monster..

Kaner · Post #44 » by **Kaner** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:23 am

I don't know much about him, is he the kind of guy who initiates an offense or does he have any off the ball skills? Point forward or prototypical small forward I guess is a better way of asking the question

ManualRam · Post #45 » by **ManualRam** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:26 am

Kaner wrote:I don't know much about him, is he the kind of guy who initiates an offense or does he have any off the ball skills? Point forward or prototypical small forward I guess is a better way of asking the question

He's a ball-dominant, iso heavy small forward. A pure, on-the-ball scorer with not much of a floor game or off-the-ball game at all.

Geaux_Hawks · Post #46 » by **Geaux_Hawks** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:32 pm

ManualRam wrote:
Kaner wrote:I don't know much about him, is he the kind of guy who initiates an offense or does he have any off the ball skills? Point forward or prototypical small forward I guess is a better way of asking the question

He's a ball-dominant, iso heavy small forward. A pure, on-the-ball scorer with not much of a floor game or off-the-ball game at all.

He is a good enough shooter to learn to play off-ball though..

Wheeze · Post #47 » by **Wheeze** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:03 am

His Jumpshot look like Durant's Jumpshot. But there is a slightly difference. Durant's hands a little bit higher than Miller's hands.

Elden Payton · Post #48 » by **Elden Payton** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:57 am

I like Quincy but I think he's getting overrated a tad.

If he puts up 27/12 next year I'll compare him to Durant.

Rapsfan07 · Post #49 » by **Rapsfan07** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:35 pm

It's true that we gotta see him play a little bit more but I really think he will be either the best SF in the draft and second only to Drummond in terms of being a star.

Elden Payton · Post #50 » by **Elden Payton** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:56 am

Seeing him play against college competition is obviously key.

I would love to see Miller v Barnes in the tourney.

ManualRam · Post #51 » by **ManualRam** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:55 am

Rapsfan07 wrote:It's true that we gotta see him play a little bit more but I really think he will be either the best SF in the draft and second only to Drummond in terms of being a star.

you think he'll either be the best SF in the draft or ... what?

Deafjam57 · Post #52 » by **Deafjam57** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:29 pm

Miller seems to be about 85 - 90% back from his injury, from what I've seen from Baylor's midnight madness, but he still needs to get his athleticism back to it's previous level. Right now he seems a bit tentative on offense. He knows he's not fully 'back' yet; hopefully he can return to his previous level of athleticism.

7-Day Dray · Post #53 » by **7-Day Dray** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:55 pm

Deafjam57 wrote:Miller seems to be about 85 - 90% back from his injury, from what I've seen from Baylor's midnight madness, but he still needs to get his athleticism back to it's previous level. Right now he seems a bit tentative on offense. He knows he's not fully 'back' yet; hopefully he can return to his previous level of athleticism.

You were at Baylor's midnight madness? I agree with you though. In the mixes I've seen since the injury, he doesn't look as athletic (although he was never really that explosive). But he's not 100% yet. These kinds of injuries take a long time to heal. Hope he fully recovers.

Deafjam57 · Post #54 » by **Deafjam57** » Tue Nov 1, 2011 12:10 am

I don't live in that area so I wasn't AT the moonlight madness (baylor calls it moonlight) but I saw the entire thing using the magical powers of the internet

and that's what it looked like to me. He definitely can play, and play well, but he still isn't used to playing with less speed and jumping ability than before. It'll take him a bit, but he'll get back into form.

Rapsfan07 · Post #55 » by **Rapsfan07** » Tue Nov 1, 2011 3:52 pm

ManualRam wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote:It's true that we gotta see him play a little bit more but I really think he will be either the best SF in the draft and second only to Drummond in terms of being a star.

you think he'll either be the best SF in the draft or ... what?

My bad. Typo.

But I'm sure he'll get back to form

vincecarter4pres · Post #56 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Wed Nov 2, 2011 7:21 am

I don't know a lot about this kid but have heard about him for close to a year now.

From the before and after highlight mixes I take these from them:

Pros:
Handle looks incredibly tighter.
Although his shot is still hella awkward looking with a weird release and release point and even a weird way of bringing it up, it's sort of compact and his release itself is lightening quick, he gets it up through the whole motion very fast in general as well.

His form and what not looks similar, just looks quicker and more compact and with a slightly higher release point.

Put on considerable bulk. Still isn't big in the least, but he's tone and has a solid upper body and this is coming from a kid who looked as though he would snap like uncooked spaghetti in the older vids. People with builds like that often find it hard to put on any weight in a short period of time so I think there's hope for him to put on some more, but not so much where it holds him back.

Cons:
Looks hesitant and tentative. Actually just awkward, almost nervous or even scared. You can almost feel his constant worry. I think it's psychological too, cause at certain points when he gets in a groove you can see he forgets about it and moves much smoother, cuts quicker and harder and just looks fluid with longer strides.

Now this is, A) a short ass mix, B) an open gym where even if healthy he's not going at full speed so I don't want to over-analyze but that's what it really looked like.

Second, he looks a little land locked. In the older vids he didn't look like an athletic freak, well except for that one dunk where he pushes off... :wink:

But he looked like a well above average athlete for a small forward even on the NBA level in the older ones and he looked to get in the air very fast.

In the after videos, not so much.

Now again, I'm not sure if this is a mix of him just messing around in a goofy laid back open gym setting combined with the weight he added to his frame, or if it's mental.

Maybe he's scared to explode and then even more afraid of the landing?

And then the third possibility, which is likely to be a factor no matter which of the first two reasons he looks like that, is he's not 100% yet and/or if he's permanently lost explosion.

I don't want to go any deeper then that. I've never actually seen him play besides mixes so I don't want to pull anything out of them other then legit observations like the stuff above.

Very eager to see him at Baylor this year though.

This class has a ton of potential to be one of the best in almost a decade for wings if 3 or 4 of these guys look super legit and then pan out.

Well I guess a lot of this depends on what the age limit is set at in the new CBA.

Rapture · Post #57 » by **Rapture** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:57 pm

Just finished watching San Diego State vs Baylor. I tried to watch Quincy Miller real close for the whole game because he has been my favourite prospect so far. A few points that i picked up:

-Very skilled and smooth offensive player. Has a great feel for the game. He can pretty much do it all. Can create from the perimeter and get to the basket or pull up for a jump shot. Knows angles well and can draw fouls (so far 5.8fta/g in 28mins). Also has a little bit of post game, mainly because of his good touch around the basket. Also an underrated passer!

-Like others have said it's clear that he's not yet recovered from the ACL injury. It looked almost like he was limping when running full court. Also seemed slow lateraly.

-Difficult to evaluate defense because Baylor was playing zone most of the game. Some rookie mistakes here and there but his awareness seemed to be ok.

-Does have average/good length for SF position but not great/freakish like Durant.

-Has great attitude and overall intangibles.

Two things that will be very important as the season progresses:

1. Baylor has no playmakers at all. Their offensive game is not very beautiful to watch. Perry Jones will be back for the next game. How will Q. Miller react and how much responsibility will he get as a playmaker from perimeter when he moves back to his true position SF.

2. How will he progress athletically! He has all the skills in the world to be even a first option in the NBA. Now the question is how much can he regain/improve his athleticism in the next couple of years. This will determine if he can become a star or just an above average player in the league. He'll have a hardtime being a premier shot creator if he can't improve athletically because of the low release also.

Should be veeery interesting to see how he develops and how they can play together with P. Jones.

BigBaller · Post #58 » by **BigBaller** » Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:56 am

Top 5 pick for sure. He is better than Harrison Barnes.

bullsnewdynasty · Post #59 » by **bullsnewdynasty** » Mon Dec 5, 2011 1:26 am

Saw him today live and he really seemed invisible out on the court, but he did have 6 assists in 24 minutes, which is pretty solid. Not sure if he lived up to the hype though.

Blkbrd671 · Post #60 » by **Blkbrd671** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 12:04 am

When Drummond checked in at the team's practice facility this week, he heard from the assistant coaches and strength training staffers about the eye-opening transformation Quincy Miller has made since season's end.

"Man, that kid – he put on 16 pounds of muscle," Drummond said. "He looks so good. He's going to be a big part of our team, too. He's been in the gym every day, taking his workouts seriously, eating well. The coaching staff is excited. I talked to the weight coaches about him, too. They said he comes in with a mindset that he wants to be a part of this team and really wants to work, so I'm really happy for him."

"He looks great," Van Gundy said of Miller. "He's really been working hard."