Tyus Jones

Talent Chaser · Post #41 » by **Talent Chaser** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:03 pm

Crazy underrated prospect

DirtyDez · Post #42 » by **DirtyDez** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 6:45 am

ManualRam wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:
ManualRam wrote:dont think the UNC game was the one to follow up with talk about how weak tyus looks. he made multiple plays down the stretch of the 2nd half and in OT to keep duke in the game and eventually close the margin (scored their final 9 points in regulation). he had like 3 or 4 plays where he took it to a defender's chest and finished through contact. some of those plays highlighted here:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9XCGc4OVHk[/youtube]

I didn't mean soft. Just physically I don't like his frame atm.

i knew what you meant, which is why i mentioned that he's coming off a game where he showed instances of making plays through contact.

So he's tough and can handle contact. Doesn't really change anything regarding his frame.

noobcake · Post #43 » by **noobcake** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:14 am

Frame is never an issue for the NBA. A summer in the league is enough to fix all frame issues.

Tyus Jones is the best PG prospect in this draft. Mudiay just screams high-bust potential to me.

DickGrayson · Post #44 » by **DickGrayson** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:20 am

noobcake wrote:Frame is never an issue for the NBA. A summer in the league is enough to fix all frame issues.

Tyus Jones is the best PG prospect in this draft. Mudiay just screams high-bust potential to me.

explain.

Post #45 » by **Ruzious** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:55 pm

Frame can definitely be an issue, but if you're a special player like Tyus Jones, you can compensate - like John Stockton did.

noobcake · Post #46 » by **noobcake** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:23 pm

DickGrayson wrote:
noobcake wrote:Frame is never an issue for the NBA. A summer in the league is enough to fix all frame issues.

Tyus Jones is the best PG prospect in this draft. Mudiay just screams high-bust potential to me.

explain.

Can't play his way into rotation in China. Doesn't dominate the CBA.

But athletic point guards with great length has had a great track record over the past few years.

Elden Payton · Post #47 » by **Elden Payton** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:54 pm

Since Russell is a SG, I'd say that Jones is the best lead guard of the bunch.

I agree with @noobcake that Mudiay has high bust potential.

Jones has instincts you can't teach and will be able to run a team at NBA level right now.

djphan · Post #48 » by **djphan** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:07 pm

small with an inability to get buckets in the paint are a bad combination...

he's a good shooter and handles the ball well.. but he has a long climb to be a better prospect...

DirtyDez · Post #49 » by **DirtyDez** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:01 pm

Ruzious wrote:Frame can definitely be an issue, but if you're a special player like Tyus Jones, you can compensate - like John Stockton did.

Stockton wasn't a force until 26/27 years old and even as a rookie he wasn't weak...

Rookie card -

Winglish · Post #50 » by **Winglish** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:49 pm

DirtyDez wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Frame can definitely be an issue, but if you're a special player like Tyus Jones, you can compensate - like John Stockton did.

Stockton wasn't a force until 26/27 years old and even as a rookie he wasn't weak...

Rookie card -

John Stockton's weight room competitions against Karl Malone are legendary. The two never stopped working out. Malone obviously built for mass while Stockton went for lean muscle.

DickGrayson · Post #51 » by **DickGrayson** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 1:58 am

noobcake wrote:
DickGrayson wrote:
noobcake wrote:Frame is never an issue for the NBA. A summer in the league is enough to fix all frame issues.

Tyus Jones is the best PG prospect in this draft. Mudiay just screams high-bust potential to me.

explain.

Can't play his way into rotation in China. Doesn't dominate the CBA.

But athletic point guards with great length has had a great track record over the past few years.

? he was in the rotation on his team.

He got injured.

and he pretty much averaged great numbers across the board.

HeartBreakKid · Post #52 » by **HeartBreakKid** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:53 pm

noobcake wrote:
DickGrayson wrote:
noobcake wrote:Frame is never an issue for the NBA. A summer in the league is enough to fix all frame issues.

Tyus Jones is the best PG prospect in this draft. Mudiay just screams high-bust potential to me.

explain.

Can't play his way into rotation in China. Doesn't dominate the CBA.

But athletic point guards with great length has had a great track record over the past few years.

He started for his team, not sure what you're talking about.

Post #53 » by **Ruzious** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:04 pm

DirtyDez wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Frame can definitely be an issue, but if you're a special player like Tyus Jones, you can compensate - like John Stockton did.

Stockton wasn't a force until 26/27 years old and even as a rookie he wasn't weak...

Rookie card -

We were talking about small frames. Stockton had a small frame - similar to Jones'. And what does him not being "a force until 26/27" have to do with the discussion? He was good in the NBA from day 1. He was all-star caliber by year 3.

TheOGJabroni · Post #54 » by **TheOGJabroni** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 7:10 pm

djphan wrote:small with an inability to get buckets in the paint are a bad combination...

he's a good shooter and handles the ball well.. but he has a long climb to be a better prospect...

Inability to get buckets in the paint? I was under the impression that was actually a skill of his, considering his size.

Cammo101 · Post #55 » by **Cammo101** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 7:55 pm

noobcake wrote:
DickGrayson wrote:
noobcake wrote:Frame is never an issue for the NBA. A summer in the league is enough to fix all frame issues.

Tyus Jones is the best PG prospect in this draft. Mudiay just screams high-bust potential to me.

explain.

Can't play his way into rotation in China. Doesn't dominate the CBA.

But athletic point guards with great length has had a great track record over the past few years.

This is just flat wrong. Mudiay was playing and playing very well before he got hurt in China.

noobcake · Post #56 » by **noobcake** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:14 pm

Cammo101 wrote:
noobcake wrote:
DickGrayson wrote:
explain.

Can't play his way into rotation in China. Doesn't dominate the CBA.

But athletic point guards with great length has had a great track record over the past few years.

This is just flat wrong. Mudiay was playing and playing very well before he got hurt in China.

No noob, go look at the stats in the CBA.

DickGrayson · Post #57 » by **DickGrayson** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:09 pm

noobcake wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:
noobcake wrote:
Can't play his way into rotation in China. Doesn't dominate the CBA.

But athletic point guards with great length has had a great track record over the past few years.

This is just flat wrong. Mudiay was playing and playing very well before he got hurt in China.

No noob, go look at the stats in the CBA.

dude....do you realize Mudiay has impressed every expert and scout and he's a lock for a top 3-5 pick?
His performance at the CBA was enough to win him a top 5 pick.
At the draft combine, it may even increase. He's a bigger John Wall.

Zombiesonics · Post #58 » by **Zombiesonics** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:53 pm

noobcake wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:
noobcake wrote:
Can't play his way into rotation in China. Doesn't dominate the CBA.

But athletic point guards with great length has had a great track record over the past few years.

This is just flat wrong. Mudiay was playing and playing very well before he got hurt in China.

No noob, go look at the stats in the CBA.

how are you so damn brazen? he got injured, and wasn't even having a bad season. read this article : http://www.complex.com/sports/2015/02/e ... ium=social

Mik317 · Post #59 » by **Mik317** » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:49 am

This is just another Noobcake doesn't like athletes over skilled guys.

Did the same thing with Wiggins last year

noobcake · Post #60 » by **noobcake** » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:27 pm

I don't like prospects whose only 'skill' is athleticism.

And this viewpoint has produced a long history successful evaluations.