Thon Maker

Tommo1986 · Post #41 » by **Tommo1986** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:41 am

Hope he heads to college for a year

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No-Man · Post #42 » by **No-Man** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:43 am

Maker is just an average athlete and that will limit him, not only his weight or strength.
He is skilled, huge, long and coordinated, so he will make it as a role player if he understands that he has to be that and that is his ceiling.
If not he will end up in China.

doordoor123 · Post #43 » by **doordoor123** » Fri Jul 24, 2015 1:29 pm

I love Thon Maker. I'd take him over Wiggins. Anyone know what his deal is? Is he entering the draft next year?

damecurry · Post #44 » by **damecurry** » Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:24 pm

doordoor123 wrote:I love Thon Maker. I'd take him over Wiggins. Anyone know what his deal is? Is he entering the draft next year?

He's reclassified to take another year in high-school, will be eligible for the 2017 draft.
I love him too, but that's a bit grandoise, he's still very unproven.

need4detroit · Post #45 » by **need4detroit** » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:03 am

doordoor123 wrote:I love Thon Maker. I'd take him over Wiggins. Anyone know what his deal is? Is he entering the draft next year?

I'd easily take Wiggins.

Dcebucks11 · Post #46 » by **Dcebucks11** » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:05 am

doordoor123 wrote:I love Thon Maker. I'd take him over Wiggins. Anyone know what his deal is? Is he entering the draft next year?

you would take him over wiggins based on what? youtube highlights? he's looked awful in the games I've watched.. he needs a lot of work but he's got good tools

Post #47 » by **Prez** » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:49 am

Every time I see Maker play in actual games as opposed to his highlight mixtapes, he looks pretty terrible. I see the potential but I wouldn't even put him in the same sentence as a prospect like Wiggins.

Post #48 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:59 am

Milbuck wrote:Every time I see Maker play in actual games as opposed to his highlight mixtapes, he looks pretty terrible. I see the potential but I wouldn't even put him in the same sentence as a prospect like Wiggins.

He looks awkward as hell. All those wannabe wing moves aren't going to do anything for him at all at the pro level. He doesn't have that type of explosion. Needs to focus on using his shooting ability and length to cause match up issues on both ends.

Von Bismarck · Post #49 » by **Von Bismarck** » Sun Jul 26, 2015 9:50 am

Maker is a bust. He's actually pretty terrible while playing regular games. I'd take him as late lotto just because of his tools, but that's pretty much it.

If you are looking for a real point forward, than your guy is Bender.

doordoor123 · Post #50 » by **doordoor123** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 12:18 am

Dcebucks11 wrote:
doordoor123 wrote:I love Thon Maker. I'd take him over Wiggins. Anyone know what his deal is? Is he entering the draft next year?

you would take him over wiggins based on what? youtube highlights? he's looked awful in the games I've watched.. he needs a lot of work but he's got good tools

Potential

He has some flashes that just blow me away. He might be a ways away from reaching his potential, but that potential scares me. Remember, he's still in high school and only moved to the U.S. to play basketball not so long ago. International basketball is a different game and it's clear he's having issues with quicker games (and looks slow because of it). Still, I was probably overstating him over Wiggins. I'm just super hyped about Maker and I think he has a chance to be really good.

In terms of the games I've seen, he has been very up and down. Some games he just looks lost, but he's going to figure that all out. I'm not convinced he has had great coaches as well. I think a year in college would do wonders for him.

splendidham · Post #51 » by **splendidham** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 12:54 am

I agree. He has a lot of potential and is still 2 years away from even being drafted. A lot can be improved in that time. He's already taken steps in the right direction. Put on 30lbs more recently. The plan is to add weight to him slowly. He looks visibly bigger, no longer just a stick. It's helped with his play, too. He looked really bad at the hoop summit and Canadian all star game but since then has been fantastic. Quite premature to label him a bust at this point

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No-Man · Post #52 » by **No-Man** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 12:55 am

he is old as **** for his class, sorry for the expression and he is clearly not enough of an athlete to translate the type of game he wants to play at the next level, he needs to get his act together and mature as a player to at least be a good role player and a pro, because if he continues with the trend he is following he is going to be a marginal NBA guy at the very best, most likely heading to the China path.

No-Man · Post #53 » by **No-Man** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 12:57 am

I mean if you want to get hyped about a big that can do what Maker can, and then more, plus having the physicality, athleticism and postplayer identity/maturity that Maker lacks, just watch Giles, who is indeed the real deal.

LakerLegend · Post #54 » by **LakerLegend** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:11 am

He's 18 years old, and pretty raw as far as basketball experience goes I believe. It's really premature to make judgments about things like his athleticism at this point. If he keeps working he can definitely improve his athleticism given his age.

Is he going to turn into LeBron or Durant no, but it doesn't mean he can't significantly improve with nutrition and training. The guys from Sudan for crying out loud.

His game will probably also evolve significantly into more of a post/mid range guy as he moves along.

No-Man · Post #55 » by **No-Man** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:14 am

For the type of game that he wants to play and how he conducts himself on the court he needs to either be an elite ahtlete, and those traits are not attainable, or an elite shooter, he is none ofthose as of now.
If he matures he could end up been a good stretch big prospect, but nothing close to a star.

LakerLegend · Post #56 » by **LakerLegend** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:18 am

Fischella wrote:For the type of game that he wants to play and how he conducts himself on the court he needs to either be an elite ahtlete, and those traits are not attainable, or an elite shooter, he is none ofthose as of now.
If he matures he could end up been a good stretch big prospect, but nothing close to a star.

He's 7-1. He in all likelihood won't be playing that type of game at higher levels, but the fact that he has the talent and coordination to handle the ball and move like he does shows there is a lot there to work with. Most 7 footers can't even walk straight without looking awkward, and this guy is doing this:

http://www.slamonline.com/media/slam-tv/7-1-thon-maker-drops-defender-crazy-crossover-video/

That's just pure talent that can be molded. It's not about how many players or wing players are better athletes or more talented at basketball than he is. It's about how many people above 6-10 or 6-11 are.

doordoor123 · Post #57 » by **doordoor123** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 2:30 am

Lakerfan17 wrote:
Fischella wrote:For the type of game that he wants to play and how he conducts himself on the court he needs to either be an elite ahtlete, and those traits are not attainable, or an elite shooter, he is none ofthose as of now.
If he matures he could end up been a good stretch big prospect, but nothing close to a star.

He's 7-1. He in all likelihood won't be playing that type of game at higher levels, but the fact that he has the talent and coordination to handle the ball and move like he does shows there is a lot there to work with. Most 7 footers can't even walk straight without looking awkward, and this guy is doing this:

http://www.slamonline.com/media/slam-tv/7-1-thon-maker-drops-defender-crazy-crossover-video/

That's just pure talent that can be molded. It's not about how many players or wing players are better athletes or more talented at basketball than he is. It's about how many people above 6-10 or 6-11 are.

Exactly. He's going to be a good defender at the pro level too. He has excellent shiftiness, turns really well and overall one of the most fluid guys at that size. It's a matter of understanding the game and it'll come.

splendidham · Post #58 » by **splendidham** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 3:07 am

Fischella wrote:For the type of game that he wants to play and how he conducts himself on the court he needs to either be an elite ahtlete, and those traits are not attainable, or an elite shooter, he is none ofthose as of now.
If he matures he could end up been a good stretch big prospect, but nothing close to a star.

I guess then how you judge an athlete is all in the eye of the beholder. I think he looks fine as an athlete. It's like how some people consider Ben Simmons a stiff (it gets said on here a lot) but other folk think he's a very gifted athlete

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doordoor123 · Post #59 » by **doordoor123** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 3:38 am

splendidham wrote:
Fischella wrote:For the type of game that he wants to play and how he conducts himself on the court he needs to either be an elite ahtlete, and those traits are not attainable, or an elite shooter, he is none ofthose as of now.
If he matures he could end up been a good stretch big prospect, but nothing close to a star.
I guess then how you judge an athlete is all in the eye of the beholder. I think he looks fine as an athlete. It's like how some people consider Ben Simmons a stiff (it gets said on here a lot) but other folk think he's a very gifted athlete

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Athleticism can be overshadowed by a players role and awareness on the court. Some guys look less athletic because they don't know where to use their athleticism or they haven't developed the know-how of using their athleticism. Sometimes it's about team chemistry or learning plays. Sometimes players are hesitant to use their athleticism (cough cough Blake Griffin on defense cough cough) because they might draw fouls or mess up a play. I think in most cases, you want to look for flashes of athleticism.

Rastas · Post #60 » by **Rastas** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:06 am

Thon has only been playing basketball for 5 years, his potential to improve in all aspects of his game is off the charts!

Currently matching or dominating other elite bigs in his class , his development curve should be higher than most.