is Emmanuel Mudiay overrated?

[SparksFly87]

Jrue Holiday without a jumper shot

[Unbreakable99]

I tend to go back and forth on Mudiay a lot. I have a few questions. For those of you who love Mudiay can you tell me what makes him so much better than another tall highly recruited PG in Andrew Harrison? Harrison was a top 5 player coming out of high school and may not even get drafted. You could argue Harrison has a better jump shot too. So please tell me the differences between the two.

I think Mudiay could be a top flight PG if he gets a consistent jump shot. I just hate it when players who aren't big men can't shoot. And he is not as quick as the likes of Wall and Rose and Westbrook so those comparisons need to stop. Right now as a Sixers fan it changes between Mudiay and Russell on a weekly basis.

[AQuintus]

For those of you who love Mudiay can you tell me what makes him so much better than another tall highly recruited PG in Andrew Harrison?

Mudiay is actually a PG. Harrison, on the other hand, is a selfish, ball-dominant SG.

[Negrodamus]

For those of you who love Mudiay can you tell me what makes him so much better than another tall highly recruited PG in Andrew Harrison?

Mudiay is actually a PG. Harrison, on the other hand, is a selfish, ball-dominant SG.

Not to defend Andrew, but he's a PG. He was "selfish" because Cal needed someone to attack the basket from the perimeter and he was our best option (albeit not a very good one). He is actually a pretty good passer though. He's not the athlete of Mudiay and probably a similarly bad shooter

[GIMME_DATT]

Interesting looking back at these comments

Will be out the NBA very soon.

[UcanUwill]

Fischella was so sold

[Grits n Gravy]

Fischella was so sold

[cksdayoff]

lmao. for the record, i had mudiay and the harrison twins way overrated.

[Ruzious]

It's too soon to write off Mudiay - he turned 22 2 days ago.

But the Mudiay/Ntilikina backcourt is brutal offensively.

[blazeyo]

Mudiay is as big as Evans and is a real PG unlike Evans whos BBIQ is downright negative for his team.

Mudiay is 19yo, and is freak physically, the strength he carries and his level of explosiveness is going to be a factor, he is just that big and strong, plus the IQ.

He is a mini LeBron James.

Lol, you nailed it again bro.

[The-Power]

Mudiay is as big as Evans and is a real PG unlike Evans whos BBIQ is downright negative for his team.

Mudiay is 19yo, and is freak physically, the strength he carries and his level of explosiveness is going to be a factor, he is just that big and strong, plus the IQ.

He is a mini LeBron James.

Lol, you nailed it again bro.

Everybody who posts on here regularly is wrong on many prospects over the years, just as highly-paid scouts and executives are – every year. It's fun to look at old threads but posts like yours provide no value. I'd rather read the posts of someone going out on a limb – as long as they are not cocky about it and acknowledge other arguments – and be wrong than to read the posts of someone gloating over someone else being wrong.

[PLO]

Mudiay is as big as Evans and is a real PG unlike Evans whos BBIQ is downright negative for his team.

Mudiay is 19yo, and is freak physically, the strength he carries and his level of explosiveness is going to be a factor, he is just that big and strong, plus the IQ.

He is a mini LeBron James.

Lol, you nailed it again bro.

Everybody who posts on here regularly is wrong on many prospects over the years, just as highly-paid scouts and executives are – every year. It's fun to look at old threads but posts like yours provide no value. I'd rather read the posts of someone going out on a limb – as long as they are not cocky about it and acknowledge other arguments – and be wrong than to read the posts of someone gloating over someone else being wrong.

This.

[No-Man]

Yeah this draft was probably my worst, had Mudiay and Okafor up there, also way too high on Winslow, or Cam Payne, hey at least I was high on Porzingis, Booker, Rondaé, Tyus Jones, Oubre, Osman and Delon Wright and low on guys like Stanley Johnson, Cauley-Stein, RJ Hunter etc

It is a process, in Mudiay's and Okafor's cases, which were the biggest blunders I overrated certain skills that I like without paying attention to their deficiencies, with Manny I think the vision at his height was really enticing, esp with his body type (always liked more strong, subtle Guards than super explosive cause of maintenance) and I didn't account for his issues with shooting as much as I should've, hard to evaluate him defensively with the tape we had, as for Jahlil, I just thought he was gonna be a difference maker with his dribbling and facing up ability, thought that his range would extend to 3 given his touch and he could've been Cousins-lite, he is less athletic, but moves well and has the skills, didn't account (and didn't know enough about certain numbers) for his lack of feel or vision in general, and obviously the defensive awareness/motor, he wasn't great at Duke, but he was passable in certain areas, and always had the length and feet so I just didn't give it much thought.

The ideal outcome is to learn from it, that's what we are here for.

[Ettorefm]

Yeah this draft was probably my worst, had Mudiay and Okafor up there, also way too high on Winslow, or Cam Payne, hey at least I was high on Porzingis, Booker, Rondaé, Tyus Jones, Oubre, Osman and Delon Wright and low on guys like Stanley Johnson, Cauley-Stein, RJ Hunter etc

It is a process, in Mudiay's and Okafor's cases, which were the biggest blunders I overrated certain skills that I like without paying attention to their deficiencies, with Manny I think the vision at his height was really enticing, esp with his body type (always liked more strong, subtle Guards than super explosive cause of maintenance) and I didn't account for his issues with shooting as much as I should've, hard to evaluate him defensively with the tape we had, as for Jahlil, I just thought he was gonna be a difference maker with his dribbling and facing up ability, thought that his range would extend to 3 given his touch and he could've been Cousins-lite, he is less athletic, but moves well and has the skills, didn't account (and didn't know enough about certain numbers) for his lack of feel or vision in general, and obviously the defensive awareness/motor, he wasn't great at Duke, but he was passable in certain areas, and always had the length and feet so I just didn't give it much thought.

The ideal outcome is to learn from it, that's what we are here for.

So bamba outside the lottery then?

[doordoor123]

I still don’t get why Mudiay hasn’t gotten better. He still has flashes, but he’s still atrociously bad at times. He just has a terrible feel for the game on offense or defense. I’m still not out on Mudiay yet, I’ve seen games where it looks like hes figured a few things out. The I watch another game and he’s terrible again. There might still be something there that might need to develop either with time or with scrutiny. Maybe he needs to fall to get back up again. Maybe he just needs time in the gym putting up shots. If he has a jumper it opens up his whole game.

[Ruzious]

Yeah this draft was probably my worst, had Mudiay and Okafor up there, also way too high on Winslow, or Cam Payne, hey at least I was high on Porzingis, Booker, Rondaé, Tyus Jones, Oubre, Osman and Delon Wright and low on guys like Stanley Johnson, Cauley-Stein, RJ Hunter etc

It is a process, in Mudiay's and Okafor's cases, which were the biggest blunders I overrated certain skills that I like without paying attention to their deficiencies, with Manny I think the vision at his height was really enticing, esp with his body type (always liked more strong, subtle Guards than super explosive cause of maintenance) and I didn't account for his issues with shooting as much as I should've, hard to evaluate him defensively with the tape we had, as for Jahlil, I just thought he was gonna be a difference maker with his dribbling and facing up ability, thought that his range would extend to 3 given his touch and he could've been Cousins-lite, he is less athletic, but moves well and has the skills, didn't account (and didn't know enough about certain numbers) for his lack of feel or vision in general, and obviously the defensive awareness/motor, he wasn't great at Duke, but he was passable in certain areas, and always had the length and feet so I just didn't give it much thought.

The ideal outcome is to learn from it, that's what we are here for.

Great post.

[Ruzious]

I still don’t get why Mudiay hasn’t gotten better. He still has flashes, but he’s still atrociously bad at times. He just has a terrible feel for the game on offense or defense. I’m still not out on Mudiay yet, I’ve seen games where it looks like hes figured a few things out. The I watch another game and he’s terrible again. There might still be something there that might need to develop either with time or with scrutiny. Maybe he needs to fall to get back up again. Maybe he just needs time in the gym putting up shots. If he has a jumper it opens up his whole game.

He's a player I'd target for his second contract.

[NoZoLakers]

his career trajectory looks like Ramon Sessions

[JohnnyKILLroy]

Marcus Banks

[Ruzious]

The last 2 posts have me channelling Alex Trebek on an SNL skit.