Marcus wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:Marcus wrote:Couple kids I want the board's opinion on.
Wendell Carter who is a favorite of mines. I think the kid has some serious game. He isn't as fast as some of the other bigs in that class but I love the stretch potential, solid footwork on the block, NBA physique, and rim protection. I see him slated around mid-first on mocks. Granted I haven't dug to deep into the prospective 2018 class but from the kids I have watched (Ayton, Duvall, Bamba, Porter, Troy Brown) I think he's right up there with those guys in terms of talent maybe not so much in potential but the kid is very skilled already.
Second kid is Collin Sexton. I've seen his name floating around the boards and I've watched a few games with him. Not seeing his name in the mocks just yet and I didn't get a chance to really see him in full flourish against decent to good comp. What are the general opinions on him on the board?
The more I watch Carter the more I just think of Al Horford. Wendell is becoming more explosive but hes still not a great athlete for a 4 in the NBA. He also doesnt have the size to be a full time 5 (6'10 maybe but does have a 7'4 wingspan). He has really been working on his jumper and should be a good 3 point shooter down the road. The dude is a beast on the boards and a really good shot blocker. I see him as a more athletic Al Horford as his ceiling. But can easily get lost in the shuffle as well because he doesnt really fit in one position (kinda like Thomas Robinson). Still hoping K pulls it off and Duke gets the Bamba/Carter front court next year, scary. I think Carter might be the best college player out of the elite group though for their one year. Just doesnt have the same NBA potential as some of those other guys. Sexton just kinda came out of nowhere the last few months. Lightening quick and really explosive. Have question with his jumper, kinda slow and think he will need to really tweak it for the NBA. Also not much of a passer right now. Right now just a lightening quick PG that still needs a lot of refining compared to other guys his age. But gotta like his potential
Right now I think its a 3 horse race for the #1 spot between Bamba, Ayton and Porter. Right now I have Bamba #1, now hes up to 7 feet with almost a 7'10 wingspan. That plus his athleticism and elite shot blocking timing, plus great soft hands and a very soft touch around the rim. He looks like a better and way more athletic version of Gobert. I question Porter's motor but damn the dude has scary potential with his size, skill and athleticism. Ayton just always leaves me with wanting more, but has all the physical tools.
yeah that's the same problem I have with Ayton as well. I think the kid is a freak and has tons of potential to be a great big man in the NBA but his fire or lack thereof could be scary if he doesn't ramp it up. Kid could possibly find himself out worked for the top spot with the other bigs in the class.
Bamba I'm still iffy on but I'm giving it time. Any kind of post hook or baby jumper on that kid would be scary alone when combined with the other things he does on the floor.
Didn't peg the Horford comp on Carter but I like it. I had a big Milsap comp but I can see how Horford works. I love his mean streak too and apparently he's been impressive at the recent camps with how hard he works on the floor.
You think Sexton has one and done skill in him?
Carter just doesnt move as well as Milsap. Carter moves well but still moves like a big man if you know what I mean. So ya the closest guy I can think of is Horford. A mix between a 4 and 5, good defender, good rebounder, good scorer, doesnt really wow you in one skillset you just leave thinking he got his job done. I think that will be Carter. I dont personally think Sexton has OAD skill, but I do think he is going to be OAD. That jumper scares me and hes not a PG right now even though hes 6'1, hes definitely a work in progress in my opinion.
To me its Bamba's class right now. Reports are he is one of the hardest workers in the class and one of the highest IQ's in the class. He is very raw offensively but I like the tools he has to work with. Good form on his shot and very soft touch and hands.
Right now I think the game is just to easy for Porter and that is why I always kinda leave wanting more even though he was the best player in the game. He just kinda disappears to often for me but then he shows up and just takes over the game. Really curious to see how he looks once he gets to college.
Right now if I were to rank the prospects Id go
#1: Bamba
#2: Porter
#3: Ayton
#4: Diallo
#5: Duval
#6: Carter
#7: Knox
#8: Brown