Wendell Carter

[Justwar]

Al horford was a better rebounder in college than Noah for example. He was a pretty good rebounder most of his career being a small ball c when the nba was still big.

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[Mr B]

Gotta keep bumping my man. Carter with 20/11/2 and 1 stl and 6 blocks on 7/9 shooting and 1/1 from 3. The dude is just so fun to watch on both sides of the ball. His bounce and timing on defense makes him such a good rim protector and offensively he has great touch offensively with both hands and that jumper looks pretty damn solid. Oh and the dude is a flat out monster on the glass.

it's dusty in here. my allergies keep flaring up. I'm all teary eyed.

But yeah Wendell seems to be winning folks over. Best part of all this is he does his work within the confines of the team without needing to be a focal point. Lots of positive qualities with this kid. Like I said before if nothing else, you're getting a damn good pro. He's not full of sexy, clear to see upside, but he (barring injury) is one of those decade plus of good basketball kind of guys. A team needs type of kid.

He's the perfect balance of the two big name kids coming out. Not as long but bigger than Bamba. None of the motor issues of Ayton with all the same skills. Not the same rim-protection potential as the other two BUT more likely to rotate correctly and challenge than Ayton while being least likely to be moved off his spot like Bamba.

Fell in love with the kid when I first watched him play dual bigs with Udoka from Kansas during an AAU run they had together and he's just as effective as the focal point without another big next to him. Somebody is going to get a damn good player at the next level.

That’s why I asked if he was similar to Steven Adams. When you say he makes an impact without plays having to be called for him and that he doesn’t need to be the focal point, it sounds like his impact on the game is similar to what OKC gets out of Adams. A good defender/rebounder that does all the dirty work and gets his points by being active and always in the right place. I agree that every team needs guys like this on their team.

[Marcus]

Gotta look at rebounding numbers on horford in college before it's thrown out

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9.5 his last year there.

[Marcus]

Gotta keep bumping my man. Carter with 20/11/2 and 1 stl and 6 blocks on 7/9 shooting and 1/1 from 3. The dude is just so fun to watch on both sides of the ball. His bounce and timing on defense makes him such a good rim protector and offensively he has great touch offensively with both hands and that jumper looks pretty damn solid. Oh and the dude is a flat out monster on the glass.

it's dusty in here. my allergies keep flaring up. I'm all teary eyed.

But yeah Wendell seems to be winning folks over. Best part of all this is he does his work within the confines of the team without needing to be a focal point. Lots of positive qualities with this kid. Like I said before if nothing else, you're getting a damn good pro. He's not full of sexy, clear to see upside, but he (barring injury) is one of those decade plus of good basketball kind of guys. A team needs type of kid.

He's the perfect balance of the two big name kids coming out. Not as long but bigger than Bamba. None of the motor issues of Ayton with all the same skills. Not the same rim-protection potential as the other two BUT more likely to rotate correctly and challenge than Ayton while being least likely to be moved off his spot like Bamba.

Fell in love with the kid when I first watched him play dual bigs with Udoka from Kansas during an AAU run they had together and he's just as effective as the focal point without another big next to him. Somebody is going to get a damn good player at the next level.

That’s why I asked if he was similar to Steven Adams. When you say he makes an impact without plays having to be called for him and that he doesn’t need to be the focal point, it sounds like his impact on the game is similar to what OKC gets out of Adams. A good defender/rebounder that does all the dirty work and gets his points by being active and always in the right place. I agree that every team needs guys like this on their team.

So I personally think that OKC could get more offense out of Adams if they fed him. He's solid on the block with nice touch and has good timing on this rolls to the cup out of PnR. We're the two differ is when we start talking about extending scoring outside of the paint. Wendell provides PnP, spot up, and trailer threes. Adams is a solid passer but I think Wendell beats him there as well. Like I said just a little more versatility on the offensive side which in turn raises the potential on a kid you don't have to ask for effort and good decision making.

[Mr B]

Would Steven Adams be a good comparison for Carter’s potential?

Only if whatever team that drafts him refuses to give him touches and says just go grab boards and play defense for us. He could do it but he's so much more than that. Could stand to be a little less robotic in the post but he has good footwork, a more than respectable jumper with good deep range. Can pass from high or low post. Bangs and scraps with anyone. Rotates on defense, can rim protect, won't be a lot to hurt you on either end of the floor. Might not be the kid you build your team around but definitely one of those necessary pieces to winning a chip when we talk about, effort, energy, fight, size, and skill.

I’m a Mavs fan and I’m hoping they tank hard enough to get in the top 4. In case that doesn’t happen and they end up in the 5-10 range I’m trying to see how Carter would fit into the Mavs offense with Smith Jr. How would Carter be in the P&R?

[doordoor123]

it's dusty in here. my allergies keep flaring up. I'm all teary eyed.

But yeah Wendell seems to be winning folks over. Best part of all this is he does his work within the confines of the team without needing to be a focal point. Lots of positive qualities with this kid. Like I said before if nothing else, you're getting a damn good pro. He's not full of sexy, clear to see upside, but he (barring injury) is one of those decade plus of good basketball kind of guys. A team needs type of kid.

He's the perfect balance of the two big name kids coming out. Not as long but bigger than Bamba. None of the motor issues of Ayton with all the same skills. Not the same rim-protection potential as the other two BUT more likely to rotate correctly and challenge than Ayton while being least likely to be moved off his spot like Bamba.

Fell in love with the kid when I first watched him play dual bigs with Udoka from Kansas during an AAU run they had together and he's just as effective as the focal point without another big next to him. Somebody is going to get a damn good player at the next level.

That’s why I asked if he was similar to Steven Adams. When you say he makes an impact without plays having to be called for him and that he doesn’t need to be the focal point, it sounds like his impact on the game is similar to what OKC gets out of Adams. A good defender/rebounder that does all the dirty work and gets his points by being active and always in the right place. I agree that every team needs guys like this on their team.

So I personally think that OKC could get more offense out of Adams if they fed him. He's solid on the block with nice touch and has good timing on this rolls to the cup out of PnR. We're the two differ is when we start talking about extending scoring outside of the paint. Wendell provides PnP, spot up, and trailer threes. Adams is a solid passer but I think Wendell beats him there as well. Like I said just a little more versatility on the offensive side which in turn raises the potential on a kid you don't have to ask for effort and good decision making.

I gotta disagree with that. Adams has a good pass here and there, but he makes a lot of mistakes with the ball. He’s solid for what he is, but there’s a lot he can’t do pass-wise. In terms of scoring, he doesn’t have a soft touch around the rim, he’s a little stiff/can’t get down low in the post and can’t dribble the ball in the post. The most I see him taking a step forward is in his shooting and stepping away from the basket.

[Marcus]

That’s why I asked if he was similar to Steven Adams. When you say he makes an impact without plays having to be called for him and that he doesn’t need to be the focal point, it sounds like his impact on the game is similar to what OKC gets out of Adams. A good defender/rebounder that does all the dirty work and gets his points by being active and always in the right place. I agree that every team needs guys like this on their team.

So I personally think that OKC could get more offense out of Adams if they fed him. He's solid on the block with nice touch and has good timing on this rolls to the cup out of PnR. We're the two differ is when we start talking about extending scoring outside of the paint. Wendell provides PnP, spot up, and trailer threes. Adams is a solid passer but I think Wendell beats him there as well. Like I said just a little more versatility on the offensive side which in turn raises the potential on a kid you don't have to ask for effort and good decision making.

I gotta disagree with that. Adams has a good pass here and there, but he makes a lot of mistakes with the ball. He’s solid for what he is, but there’s a lot he can’t do pass-wise. In terms of scoring, he doesn’t have a soft touch around the rim, he’s a little stiff/can’t get down low in the post and can’t dribble the ball in the post. The most I see him taking a step forward is in his shooting and stepping away from the basket.

Agree to disagree, don't think we'll be seeing it one way or the other anytime soon with the construct of that team.

[Marcus]

Would Steven Adams be a good comparison for Carter’s potential?

Only if whatever team that drafts him refuses to give him touches and says just go grab boards and play defense for us. He could do it but he's so much more than that. Could stand to be a little less robotic in the post but he has good footwork, a more than respectable jumper with good deep range. Can pass from high or low post. Bangs and scraps with anyone. Rotates on defense, can rim protect, won't be a lot to hurt you on either end of the floor. Might not be the kid you build your team around but definitely one of those necessary pieces to winning a chip when we talk about, effort, energy, fight, size, and skill.

I’m a Mavs fan and I’m hoping they tank hard enough to get in the top 4. In case that doesn’t happen and they end up in the 5-10 range I’m trying to see how Carter would fit into the Mavs offense with Smith Jr. How would Carter be in the P&R?

I think Carter fits. You'll be playing small with him at the five if you guys love Powell, or wanna run Barnes at four. Wendell should fit either way and give you both PnR and PnP. Not overly quick but timing is solid on the roll and he has good hands in traffic and goes up to finish strong. He's managed to play with and mesh well with a variety of guards in PnR sets so DSJ shouldn't be a problem at all. Outside of that he doesn't do much to hurt you on offense. Forces very little and plays within the flow of the offense. I don't think he detracts from DSJ or any of the shooters on the Mavs while still making the most of the touches he gets whether that's putbacks, jumpers, or low post touches. I'd like for him to learn how to read post defenders better as he tends to already have whatever move he wants to make in his head and he won't/can't steer from it which can cause issues at times. think he needs to add a jump hook with both hands as well since he won't be able to move everybody at the next level. Other than that he's pretty set and should fit with the Mavs and pretty much anyone else.

[Cheesin]

He keeps playing better and better.

At the beginning of the year I had a top 5, then Jackson Jr made it a top 6, Trae young top 7...now I say Wendell carter makes it a top 8 of solid star potential guys.

He's going to average a double double no problem in the NBA. Is shooting over 46% from 3 and blocks over 2 shots a game. This guy is everything you want in a big man.

Does everything solid..ppl love Jackson Jr but he's a poor rebounder...Carter blocks shots and rebounds at a high level.

[PLO]

He keeps playing better and better.

At the beginning of the year I had a top 5, then Jackson Jr made it a top 6, Trae young top 7...now I say Wendell carter makes it a top 8 of solid star potential guys.

He's going to average a double double no problem in the NBA. Is shooting over 46% from 3 and blocks over 2 shots a game. This guy is everything you want in a big man.

Does everything solid..ppl love Jackson Jr but he's a poor rebounder...Carter blocks shots and rebounds at a high level.

JJJ isn't really asked to rebound in that team though, he's fairly perimeter oriented for the position he plays.

[Ruzious]

He keeps playing better and better.

At the beginning of the year I had a top 5, then Jackson Jr made it a top 6, Trae young top 7...now I say Wendell carter makes it a top 8 of solid star potential guys.

He's going to average a double double no problem in the NBA. Is shooting over 46% from 3 and blocks over 2 shots a game. This guy is everything you want in a big man.

Does everything solid..ppl love Jackson Jr but he's a poor rebounder...Carter blocks shots and rebounds at a high level.

JJJ isn't really asked to rebound in that team though, he's fairly perimeter oriented for the position he plays.

Yeah, they use Nick Ward as their prime inside scorer - since he's one of the best in the country at it - and Miles Bridges is an inside/outside forward who likes to use his 230 lbs against 3's. I'm guessing Michigan State is one of the better rebounding teams in the nation, so JJJ is doing what's best for the team.

[The-Power]

Jackson still struggles to hold onto rebounds in traffic or fails to get into good rebounding position at times. So there's definitely room for improvement in that regard, but I agree with the sentiment that the role is largely responsible for the drop-off in raw rebounding numbers. He could easily average more on most other teams even though that wouldn't means that he's a really good rebounder at this point. But he's long, relatively strong and hustles (sometimes leading to recklessness, unfortunately) – he'll be fine in the rebounding department; especially as a 4 / small-ball 5.

As to Carter (forgot that we're in his thread for a second): I'll have to study his defense more closely. I like his skill-set, he's going to be a modern big with strengths that will help him contribute to his team in the NBA. But I'm not sure about his upside yet. I still picture him as decent to good team defender with some useful offensive skills, down the road. Probably a starter but not a force on either side. Certainly worth a lottery pick but I'm not sure where exaclty to rank him (he's in the 8-14 range for me and probably closer to 8 than 14).

[doordoor123]

This is going to be an unpopular opinion, but I like Carter more than Bagley.

[PLO]

This is going to be an unpopular opinion, but I like Carter more than Bagley.

As an NBA prospect? I agree.

[Ruzious]

This is going to be an unpopular opinion, but I like Carter more than Bagley.

I lot depends on how they both develop defensively. I'm not real impressed with either one defensively, so far, but I'm hopeful that especially Carter shows some improvement.

[Marcus]

This is going to be an unpopular opinion, but I like Carter more than Bagley.

I don't think it SHOULD be that unpopular.

[doordoor123]

This is going to be an unpopular opinion, but I like Carter more than Bagley.

I lot depends on how they both develop defensively. I'm not real impressed with either one defensively, so far, but I'm hopeful that especially Carter shows some improvement.

I actually think Carter is worse defensively, but he doesn’t know what he’s doing on defense. I like his offense more.

[Duke4life831]

Carter has been worse defensively than Bagley. If he doesn't get to camp under the basket he becomes a pretty bad defender.

He is more skilled offensively than Bagley though. Is just as good of a jump shooter if not better, can score with either hand and can score going over either shoulder down low. Is much stronger and you know what position he is going to be playing.

I don't think he has the upside that Bagley has, but I think he has a good sized ceiling and is a very safe pick.

He's in the same spot as Bagley and the rest of the Duke guys, K is teaching them horrible defensive habits and as the season goes on the worse they look defensively. This is about the 3rd straight year K is misusing the talent he has pretty drastically.

[MemphisX]

This is going to be an unpopular opinion, but I like Carter more than Bagley.

I have more reservations about Bagley translating than Carter.

[doordoor123]

This is going to be an unpopular opinion, but I like Carter more than Bagley.

I have more reservations about Bagley translating than Carter.

I actually don’t have any issue with Bagley translating if he’s played the right way. He should be played the way Blake Griffin is playing right now for the Pistons as a point forward, but I think he still has to be molded a little bit.

Carter’s lack of defense is a little bit of an issue as a center because Starting centers are usually the last line of support and centers that can’t defend usually end up being back ups with exceptions like Vucevic. I think Carter can move and I think he’s tough, I just think he doesn’t know what he’s doing and he ain’t making the right defensive choices. But I also think that’ll come in time. Since he’s so much like Al Horford I think he can also get by playing power forward/Back Up Center. That’s how I see his role in the NBA when he first gets there and he has a nice jumper for that and it could be part of his game he develops in his first year. If Al Horford did what he is doing now when he was 19 he would be a top pick and I think Carter can do what Horford is doing, but more because he’s mobile and young. And I think teams are going to look at what Horford is with the Celtics and they’re going to look at Carter and mold him with the idea that can can be an elite pick&roll and pick&pop player who can also playmake.

Say what you will but Horford makes that Celtics team really hard to guard because he’s a triple threat. In the P&R he can pop, roll to the hoop, make a pass across court and if nothing works he can post up.