Duke4life831 wrote:popfan wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:
How high would Gobert go in a redraft? I think he would go pretty high. I don't think a team needs all 5 guys on the court to be studs offensively. If you can get the elite of the elite rim protector who can also not die trying to defend the PnR, then add him being a stud rebounder and a tremendous job target at minimum offensively. I still think that has major value in today's game. Then you think maybe potentially offensively down the road he might even be able to play a little pick n pop or can't be left alone out on the perimeter, that would basically be the ideal big man in today's game.
I think Bamba's jump shot/FT potential is what separates him from a really good prospect to an elite one. It just all depends on if those two things ever come around or not. If those two things come around, I would not be shocked if Bamba ends up with the best impact on games out of everyone from this draft.
As a Longhorn alum, I've followed Texas basketball for more than a few decades. I had to respond to your comparison of Bamba to Gobert. Gobert is surely a defensive juggernaut inside the paint. If Gobert attended Texas, he would be the first ever Longhorn big man in the NBA with defensive prowess. Kevin Durant (chuckle)? No. Chris Mihm (bigger chuckle)? No. Myles Turner? Possibly. Texas isn't Georgetown. It doesn't have a tradition of elite rim-protecting big men like Mutombo, Ewing and Morning. While Texas may have recently had a few players with defensive prowess (Avery Bradley and PJ Tucker), we emphasize and develop players with offensive ability. Defense isn't in our DNA as it has been at Duke.
I believe that you'll be disappointed if you expect elite NBA rim protection from Bamba comparable to Gobert.
But none of that really matters though if Im being honest. Even if we are talking strictly how Texas develops players, Shaka Smart is a completely different type of coach than Rick Barnes. So really the players from the late 90s to 2015 have basically nothing in common to the players playing now under Shaka Smart except for their jerseys are the same color. And 2nd, Texas has never had a prospect with the defensive potential that Bamba has. Are you saying Gobert wouldnt be the same defender he is now, if he attended Texas for 1 year? Then you bring up Kevin Durant who has become a really good rim protector and leads the NBA in blocked shots. Hell Texas alumns have the top 2 spots in the NBA right now in blocked shots with KD and Turner. I understand there is more to rim protecting than just blocked shots, but thats still a big part of rim protecting, and again those two dont even come close to the defensive potential that Bamba has.
This would be like me saying in 2011, you expect Kyrie to do anything in the NBA? You cant point to a single good PG from Duke in the NBA, therefore dont expect him to do anything. Well that wouldve proven to be dumb to say, because Duke had never had a talent like Kyrie before. So just because Texas doesnt have a history of good big men like Georgetown doesnt mean you cant expect a top tier big man that goes to Texas to be any good in the NBA. Especially since you guys have a brand new coach.
Plus: If you think defense isnt in your DNA, maybe thats why Texas got away from Rick Barnes and got a coach that is known for defense. Texas was top 25 defense last year and currently are sitting with the 5th best defense in the nation. Also just goes to show how things can change when you say defense is in Duke's DNA. Duke has been a horrific defense for coming close to a decade now. K has no clue how to coach up a defense anymore.
It's funny reading this at a time when 2 of the top 3 in BPG in the NBA are from Texas (Turner and Durant).