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Post#41 » by MemphisX » Fri Apr 5, 2019 1:21 am

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MartinsIzAfraud wrote:Memphis could be a landing spot for Garland, we all know they got close to trading Conley at deadline and he could be on the move this summer


Garland or Coby would be strong coups for Memphis to put with JJJ.



This is what most of the fans are hoping for in this draft.
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Post#42 » by Stillwater » Fri Apr 5, 2019 1:39 am

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i don't get that...why? they already have Bron and Lonzo running point. They don't need Garland. They need 1) someone that contribute immediately at a high level in the next 2-3 years and 2) a primarily off-ball player that can defend.

based on the above two parameters, Brandon Clarke and De'Andre Hunter would be my top 2 choices if I were the Lakers.

Because he is an elite shooter and they need that more than anything. I think Lonzo gets traded as well and maybe they can accomplish solving those other pressing needs moving him.


if they want a shooter that can play immediately for long stretches they should go Hunter...or even Herro who can play off-ball in ways Garland can't at this point. it just doesn't make sense.

i'm a HUGE fan of Garland, but it's gonna take him a couple of years to make an impact. that's not the window the Lakers are looking for. they need someone that can go in and play real and meaningful minutes right away.

Maybe. I think he will not require years to make an impact at all though. I think if there is no plan to move Lonzo then sure they will find ways to fill their needs elsewhere, but I also think Garland is exactly the type of pg that could be the main trade chip to get the Pelicans to answer the phone on Davis.
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Post#43 » by Stillwater » Fri Apr 5, 2019 1:53 am

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Stillwater wrote:I think this guy almost has to be the Lakers top target and is praying he falls to them. ( Unless they think they can get Irving)


i don't get that...why? they already have Bron and Lonzo running point. They don't need Garland. They need 1) someone that contribute immediately at a high level in the next 2-3 years and 2) a primarily off-ball player that can defend.

based on the above two parameters, Brandon Clarke and De'Andre Hunter would be my top 2 choices if I were the Lakers.

personally after trading Zubac i think they need a center and i'm thinking they should take Bitadze who also fits your criteria.

That makes alot of sense as well , and if they did go center Bol could make sense as well assuming he's still on the board.
I would think they could even trade down, pick up another asset and be content with Fernando or Reid in that role.
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Re: Darius Garland 

Post#44 » by clyde21 » Mon Apr 8, 2019 6:09 pm

imma go on a limb and say Garland is the best ball handler to come out since Kyrie.
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Post#45 » by Coeur » Mon Apr 8, 2019 6:20 pm

clyde21 wrote:imma go on a limb and say Garland is the best ball handler to come out since Kyrie.

Best comparison possible maybe for college career
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Post#46 » by Coeur » Mon Apr 8, 2019 6:23 pm

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clyde21 wrote:
Stillwater wrote:Because he is an elite shooter and they need that more than anything. I think Lonzo gets traded as well and maybe they can accomplish solving those other pressing needs moving him.


if they want a shooter that can play immediately for long stretches they should go Hunter...or even Herro who can play off-ball in ways Garland can't at this point. it just doesn't make sense.

i'm a HUGE fan of Garland, but it's gonna take him a couple of years to make an impact. that's not the window the Lakers are looking for. they need someone that can go in and play real and meaningful minutes right away.

Maybe. I think he will not require years to make an impact at all though. I think if there is no plan to move Lonzo then sure they will find ways to fill their needs elsewhere, but I also think Garland is exactly the type of pg that could be the main trade chip to get the Pelicans to answer the phone on Davis.

Lakers have to be looking hard at Goga and Bolbol right?


If I’m Lakers I hope one of those centers is perfect then I want Dort and Thybulle
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Post#47 » by doordoor123 » Mon Apr 8, 2019 6:56 pm

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if they want a shooter that can play immediately for long stretches they should go Hunter...or even Herro who can play off-ball in ways Garland can't at this point. it just doesn't make sense.

i'm a HUGE fan of Garland, but it's gonna take him a couple of years to make an impact. that's not the window the Lakers are looking for. they need someone that can go in and play real and meaningful minutes right away.

Maybe. I think he will not require years to make an impact at all though. I think if there is no plan to move Lonzo then sure they will find ways to fill their needs elsewhere, but I also think Garland is exactly the type of pg that could be the main trade chip to get the Pelicans to answer the phone on Davis.

Lakers have to be looking hard at Goga and Bolbol right?


If I’m Lakers I hope one of those centers is perfect then I want Dort and Thybulle


If you’re the Lakers you want two players who shouldn’t be drafted? Hmm that doesn’t make sense to me.
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Post#48 » by doordoor123 » Mon Apr 8, 2019 6:58 pm

clyde21 wrote:imma go on a limb and say Garland is the best ball handler to come out since Kyrie.


I think you mean since Trae Young, who some of you thought wasn’t a good handler.
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Post#49 » by No-Man » Mon Apr 8, 2019 7:02 pm

clyde21 wrote:imma go on a limb and say Garland is the best ball handler to come out since Kyrie.

Young is easily better, Morant and Fox albeit different styles, almost as good
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Post#50 » by Coeur » Mon Apr 8, 2019 7:03 pm

doordoor123 wrote:
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Stillwater wrote:Maybe. I think he will not require years to make an impact at all though. I think if there is no plan to move Lonzo then sure they will find ways to fill their needs elsewhere, but I also think Garland is exactly the type of pg that could be the main trade chip to get the Pelicans to answer the phone on Davis.

Lakers have to be looking hard at Goga and Bolbol right?


If I’m Lakers I hope one of those centers is perfect then I want Dort and Thybulle


If you’re the Lakers you want two players who shouldn’t be drafted? Hmm that doesn’t make sense to me.

All 4 of the guys I mentioned should clearly be drafted. How am I supposed to guess your errors if you don’t specify the 2 players that shouldn’t be drafted
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Re: Darius Garland 

Post#51 » by clyde21 » Mon Apr 8, 2019 7:06 pm

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clyde21 wrote:imma go on a limb and say Garland is the best ball handler to come out since Kyrie.

Young is easily better, Morant and Fox albeit different styles, almost as good


better than Young even, tighter and quicker. Young's fancier.
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Post#52 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Mon Apr 8, 2019 7:13 pm

If the Bulls don’t land in the top 2, would love to draft him. Kyrie is a comp I like, also a guy that didn’t play in college a ton but it didn’t matter. Release reminds me of Arenas.
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Post#53 » by Funcrusher » Mon Apr 8, 2019 7:20 pm

Fischella wrote:
clyde21 wrote:imma go on a limb and say Garland is the best ball handler to come out since Kyrie.

Young is easily better, Morant and Fox albeit different styles, almost as good

nope, try again
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Post#54 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Mon Apr 8, 2019 8:14 pm

Chicago-Bull-E wrote:If the Bulls don’t land in the top 2, would love to draft him. Kyrie is a comp I like, also a guy that didn’t play in college a ton but it didn’t matter. Release reminds me of Arenas.


Kyrie was the consensus #1 heading into his Duke season and was drafted #1.

Garland was projected #7-18 depending on the source and folks now think he should go as high as 3.

Kyrie held his value. Garland has somehow been promoted 4-14 spots.

I don’t see the situations as being all that similar.
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Post#55 » by bwgood77 » Mon Apr 8, 2019 8:17 pm

AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
Chicago-Bull-E wrote:If the Bulls don’t land in the top 2, would love to draft him. Kyrie is a comp I like, also a guy that didn’t play in college a ton but it didn’t matter. Release reminds me of Arenas.


Kyrie was the consensus #1 heading into his Duke season and was drafted #1.

Garland was projected #7-18 defending on the source and folks now think he should go as high as 3.

Kyrie held his value. Garland has somehow been promoted 4-14 spots.

I don’t see the situations as being all that similar.


Weak draft at the top has helped him move up. Guys like Reddish and Little were top 4 coming in and now have tumbled out. That combined with few PGs available has helped him. And then injuries to guys like Bol and Porter.
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Post#56 » by clyde21 » Mon Apr 8, 2019 8:20 pm

Garland would be a legit top 6-7 guy in almost any draft.
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Post#57 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Mon Apr 8, 2019 8:20 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
Chicago-Bull-E wrote:If the Bulls don’t land in the top 2, would love to draft him. Kyrie is a comp I like, also a guy that didn’t play in college a ton but it didn’t matter. Release reminds me of Arenas.


Kyrie was the consensus #1 heading into his Duke season and was drafted #1.

Garland was projected #7-18 defending on the source and folks now think he should go as high as 3.

Kyrie held his value. Garland has somehow been promoted 4-14 spots.

I don’t see the situations as being all that similar.


Weak draft at the top has helped him move up. Guys like Reddish and Little were top 4 coming in and now have tumbled out. That combined with few PGs available has helped him. And then injuries to guys like Bol and Porter.


It’s fine to move him up some. 3 is too far.

People are now comparing an idealized Garland to the reality of RJ, Culver, Hunter, etc.

It’s flawed process.
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Post#58 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Mon Apr 8, 2019 8:21 pm

AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
Chicago-Bull-E wrote:If the Bulls don’t land in the top 2, would love to draft him. Kyrie is a comp I like, also a guy that didn’t play in college a ton but it didn’t matter. Release reminds me of Arenas.


Kyrie was the consensus #1 heading into his Duke season and was drafted #1.

Garland was projected #7-18 depending on the source and folks now think he should go as high as 3.

Kyrie held his value. Garland has somehow been promoted 4-14 spots.

I don’t see the situations as being all that similar.


Kyrie was the better prospect for sure, I just meant their playing styles are similar to me. I pointed out Kyrie sat out because I don’t think it’s the end of the world.

That being said, Garland moved up because he looked great in the games he played and this draft sucks.
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Post#59 » by clyde21 » Mon Apr 8, 2019 8:24 pm

People keep repeating 'this draft sucks' so many times that they're actually starting to believe it at this point
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Post#60 » by Funcrusher » Mon Apr 8, 2019 8:24 pm

AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
Chicago-Bull-E wrote:If the Bulls don’t land in the top 2, would love to draft him. Kyrie is a comp I like, also a guy that didn’t play in college a ton but it didn’t matter. Release reminds me of Arenas.


Kyrie was the consensus #1 heading into his Duke season and was drafted #1.

Garland was projected #7-18 depending on the source and folks now think he should go as high as 3.

Kyrie held his value. Garland has somehow been promoted 4-14 spots.

I don’t see the situations as being all that similar.

imma need receipts for the draft sites that had Garland as low as #18 at any point in time. the lowest i've seen him ranked on any big board is late lottery personally.
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