Nic Claxton

[Kalela]

I will admit I didn't watch either - more Hayes than Claxton - play much but Hayes and Claxton are almost identical in everything. Why is one projected to be a lottery player and the other a late first round pick in every mock draft?

hmm, Clax and Hayes are not really all that similar, Clax can stretch and shoot somewhat, while Hayes is a more traditional big with a bigger/stronger body.

Production wise they are similar players. Claxton is only one year older. Why is one considered a lottery talent and the other an end of the round talent?

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I will admit I didn't watch either - more Hayes than Claxton - play much but Hayes and Claxton are almost identical in everything. Why is one projected to be a lottery player and the other a late first round pick in every mock draft?

hmm, Clax and Hayes are not really all that similar, Clax can stretch and shoot somewhat, while Hayes is a more traditional big with a bigger/stronger body.

Production wise they are similar players. Claxton is only one year older. Why is one considered a lottery talent and the other an end of the round talent?

Efficiency. TS%. Claxton .533 vs Hayes .739

[clyde21]

I will admit I didn't watch either - more Hayes than Claxton - play much but Hayes and Claxton are almost identical in everything. Why is one projected to be a lottery player and the other a late first round pick in every mock draft?

hmm, Clax and Hayes are not really all that similar, Clax can stretch and shoot somewhat, while Hayes is a more traditional big with a bigger/stronger body.

Production wise they are similar players. Claxton is only one year older. Why is one considered a lottery talent and the other an end of the round talent?

i don't know what 'production wise they're similar players' even means...again, different body types, different skill sets, Hayes has a better inside/roll game while Claxton has a better outside/shooting game. Hayes a better rim protector, Clax much more of a passer.

also, a lot of people do think Clax is a top 20 guy, some have him slotted 17 to Atlanta.

[clyde21]

hmm, Clax and Hayes are not really all that similar, Clax can stretch and shoot somewhat, while Hayes is a more traditional big with a bigger/stronger body.

Production wise they are similar players. Claxton is only one year older. Why is one considered a lottery talent and the other an end of the round talent?

Efficiency. TS%. Claxton .533 vs Hayes .739

to be fair the types of shots they take aren't similar at all, so we can't really judge their TS%s... but that goes back to them not really being all that similar at this point

[Kilo]

Late invite into the draft green room. 21 invited to be there now.

[Jamaaliver]

^That's too many invites.

He COULD be WAITING...FOR A LOOOOONG TIME.

[Kilo]

^That's too many invites.

He COULD be WAITING...FOR A LOOOOONG TIME.

League does their homework with the invitation lists. To add him a day before the draft - somebody went out of their way to get him there. His agent likely went to the league with something and then the league reached out to teams to see where they had him falling on their boards.

[Jamaaliver]

I've seen it not work out so well...in both the NBA and NFL.

Spoiler:

You know I was just a kid. I was just 18 years old, excited about being drafted to the NBA. I felt like all of Houston was watching me. My high school was watching me. I think they had a draft party at my coach's house. I'll never forget that day, being in the green room with my family and my agent.

As my name was getting passed, I couldn't even take it no more and I had to leave and go to the restroom because I didn't want nobody to see how hurt I was. So I started crying in the restroom while nobody was around.

SB Nation

If I wasn't likely to go in the top 15 picks...I'd likely just setup a watch party at home or school. Surrounded by family and friends.

[EvanZ]

I will admit I didn't watch either - more Hayes than Claxton - play much but Hayes and Claxton are almost identical in everything. Why is one projected to be a lottery player and the other a late first round pick in every mock draft?

hmm, Clax and Hayes are not really all that similar, Clax can stretch and shoot somewhat, while Hayes is a more traditional big with a bigger/stronger body.

Production wise they are similar players. Claxton is only one year older. Why is one considered a lottery talent and the other an end of the round talent?

I dunno, they are 10 and 11 for me.

[Coeur]

I will admit I didn't watch either - more Hayes than Claxton - play much but Hayes and Claxton are almost identical in everything. Why is one projected to be a lottery player and the other a late first round pick in every mock draft?

hmm, Clax and Hayes are not really all that similar, Clax can stretch and shoot somewhat, while Hayes is a more traditional big with a bigger/stronger body.

Production wise they are similar players. Claxton is only one year older. Why is one considered a lottery talent and the other an end of the round talent?

People see Hayes as a future starting Center. I think people are seeing claxton as that perfect 1st big off the bench and not a starting center or a power forward



Both of these guys have grown a lot on me and I’m now seeing more value in them both. I think there’s a really sweet spot on big guys in this draft from 8 or 9 to about 20. Goga/Bolbol/kabegele and these 2 guys. I still think Goga or bolbol should be in consideration starting at 4

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How much worse than Joakim Noah is Claxton?

[nolang1]

How much worse than Joakim Noah is Claxton?

Joakim Noah was the best player on the college national champions and a possible #1 pick in the draft after his sophomore season, so a lot.

[logical_art]

How much worse than Joakim Noah is Claxton?

Joakim Noah was the best player on the college national champions and a possible #1 pick in the draft after his sophomore season, so a lot.

I'm talking about at the pro level.

[nolang1]

How much worse than Joakim Noah is Claxton?

Joakim Noah was the best player on the college national champions and a possible #1 pick in the draft after his sophomore season, so a lot.

I'm talking about at the pro level.

Joakim Noah was DPOY and made 1st team all-NBA, so a lot. Much better rebounding, strength, basketball IQ, passing, basically everything except shooting, where Claxton doesn't have much to hang his hat on either as a 61% free throw shooter and a 30% 3-point shooter.

[Jamaaliver]

^That's too many invites.

He COULD be WAITING...FOR A LOOOOONG TIME.

League does their homework with the invitation lists. To add him a day before the draft - somebody went out of their way to get him there. His agent likely went to the league with something and then the league reached out to teams to see where they had him falling on their boards.

How long did Bol Bol have to wait to be drafted? 4 Hours!!!!!

It's unconscionable that the NBA set this kid up to be let down and embarrassed like this on national TV.

Invited to the green room...not even a 1st round pick.

While Bol drew focus early in the NBA draft for sporting a suit with a giant spiderweb emblazoned on it, the 7-foot-2 center became the most compelling prospect of the post-lottery picks, seemingly waiting forever in the green room to be selected.

Bol finally went with the No. 44 pick to the Nuggets (via the Heat), more than four hours after the draft begun.

Somebody needs to get their a** chewed out in his rep team and in the league office.

[EvanZ]

Somebody needs to get their a** chewed out in his rep team and in the league office.

From what I heard he was the first client his agent had. Guess there's a learning curve!

[clyde21]

Somebody needs to get their a** chewed out in his rep team and in the league office.

From what I heard he was the first client his agent had. Guess there's a learning curve!

not sure how credible this is, but there was talk that teams dropped him because they 'didn't like his handlers', so that could part of the issue.

[Barnsey]

Ben Rubin from The Stepien has quite a compelling case for Nic Claxton:

https://www.thestepien.com/2019/03/22/draft-notes-nic-claxton-first-evaluation-can-matter/

Thoughts?

[EvanZ]

hmm, Clax and Hayes are not really all that similar, Clax can stretch and shoot somewhat, while Hayes is a more traditional big with a bigger/stronger body.

Production wise they are similar players. Claxton is only one year older. Why is one considered a lottery talent and the other an end of the round talent?

I dunno, they are 10 and 11 for me.

There's no debate at this point Claxton turned out to be the better player.