Killian Hayes, most complete PG of the 2020 class

HeadtopChunes · Post #41 » by **HeadtopChunes** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:25 pm

King Ken wrote:Might be an option for the Hawks. We need a backup PG. It's pretty much our only long term need and if he has star potential, we can flip him.

Haliburton would be ideal for this right?

Can probably run a bench unit well and play besides Trae

King Ken · Post #42 » by **King Ken** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:26 pm

HeadtopChunes wrote:
King Ken wrote:Might be an option for the Hawks. We need a backup PG. It's pretty much our only long term need and if he has star potential, we can flip him.

Haliburton would be ideal for this right?

Can probably run a bench unit well and play besides Trae

JL likes him

The-Power · Post #43 » by **The-Power** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:21 pm

Hayes just had a 20/10 game against the second best German team.

Post #44 » by **Marcus** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:28 pm

The-Power wrote:Hayes just had a 20/10 game against the second best German team.

decent

remi_222 · Post #45 » by **remi_222** » Wed Feb 12, 2020 12:01 am

Watch on YouTube

karkinos · Post #46 » by **karkinos** » Sat Feb 15, 2020 2:23 pm

great find OP
his mechanics look good

BlazersBroncos · Post #47 » by **BlazersBroncos** » Sat Feb 15, 2020 7:21 pm

I honestly like the Euro PG's (Killian, Maledon) more than any US PG prospects this year. Maledon just had a game that was pretty impressive. His passes through key traffic were amazing.

remi_222 · Post #48 » by **remi_222** » Sat Feb 15, 2020 8:49 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:I honestly like the Euro PG's (Killian, Maledon) more than any US PG prospects this year. Maledon just had a game that was pretty impressive. His passes through key traffic were amazing.

u mean french PG ?

getrichordie · Post #49 » by **getrichordie** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:43 pm

There is definitely an argument to be made for Hayes being the most complete PG in this draft. It's not a particularly strong draft, but I do like a few of the point guards. He's the 3rd youngest PG (18.6 years old) and will still be 18 when drafted. If I'm taking him, I want him to get in the weight room and add 10 lbs. The next thing I want him to do is to cut down his turnovers (4.8 per 36). There's more space to operate in the NBA, so I think that should help him. All in all, Hayes is a pretty sound player for being so young. I think his floor is Mudiay and his ceiling is a taller Schroder.

I have Ball, Hayes, and Anthony. I'm concerned about Haliburton's shot.

clyde21 · Post #50 » by **clyde21** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:00 pm

Hayes is nothing like Schroeder

getrichordie · Post #51 » by **getrichordie** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:15 pm

clyde21 wrote:Hayes is nothing like Schroeder

I'm just speaking to his ceiling, not his play style. Though he will be very effective weaving through traffic and getting in paint - same as Schroder.

King Ken · Post #52 » by **King Ken** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:41 pm

This PG class is going to be great. Been waiting for a 2009 class again.

Nazrmohamed · Post #53 » by **Nazrmohamed** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:57 am

King Ken wrote:
HeadtopChunes wrote:
King Ken wrote:Might be an option for the Hawks. We need a backup PG. It's pretty much our only long term need and if he has star potential, we can flip him.

Haliburton would be ideal for this right?

Can probably run a bench unit well and play besides Trae

JL likes him

Who knows what you guys need just yet. I think Capela and Dedmind change the game for you guys and add some toughness too. The Hawks are sortve my guilty pleasure as a team how they are building it all.

Back to Hayes, I'd love him for the Knicks.

Nazrmohamed · Post #54 » by **Nazrmohamed** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:58 am

getrichordie wrote:There is definitely an argument to be made for Hayes being the most complete PG in this draft. It's not a particularly strong draft, but I do like a few of the point guards. He's the 3rd youngest PG (18.6 years old) and will still be 18 when drafted. If I'm taking him, I want him to get in the weight room and add 10 lbs. The next thing I want him to do is to cut down his turnovers (4.8 per 36). There's more space to operate in the NBA, so I think that should help him. All in all, Hayes is a pretty sound player for being so young. I think his floor is Mudiay and his ceiling is a taller Schroder.

I have Ball, Hayes, and Anthony. I'm concerned about Haliburton's shot.

I thought Halliburton has good shot percentages and efficiency?

getrichordie · Post #55 » by **getrichordie** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:44 am

Nazrmohamed wrote:
getrichordie wrote:There is definitely an argument to be made for Hayes being the most complete PG in this draft. It's not a particularly strong draft, but I do like a few of the point guards. He's the 3rd youngest PG (18.6 years old) and will still be 18 when drafted. If I'm taking him, I want him to get in the weight room and add 10 lbs. The next thing I want him to do is to cut down his turnovers (4.8 per 36). There's more space to operate in the NBA, so I think that should help him. All in all, Hayes is a pretty sound player for being so young. I think his floor is Mudiay and his ceiling is a taller Schroder.

I have Ball, Hayes, and Anthony. I'm concerned about Haliburton's shot.

I thought Halliburton has good shot percentages and efficiency?

Lonzo did too, in college. Haliburton's form and release is what concerns me.

remi_222 · Post #56 » by **remi_222** » Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:38 pm

Watch on YouTube

Def the most mature player overall in the draft

No-Man · Post #57 » by **No-Man** » Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:44 pm

Warming up to Hayes, his lack of versatility is what kills me, I don't see him as a premium dynamic scorer and without that he is just likely a solid starter for mediocre teams, he is not going to be a complimentary specialist

Chi town · Post #58 » by **Chi town** » Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:59 am

Fischella wrote:Warming up to Hayes, his lack of versatility is what kills me, I don't see him as a premium dynamic scorer and without that he is just likely a solid starter for mediocre teams, he is not going to be a complimentary specialist

I think being a lefty will help him a lot and I see him as having elite iQ and changes of pace. Reminds me of Chris Paul with that.

I think he can be an all star.

DaddyCool19 · Post #59 » by **DaddyCool19** » Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:24 am

Is he really 6'5?

https://ratiopharmulm.com/team/kader/ Looking at the team photo I'm not so sure about it. Number 1 next to him is Tyler Harvey and he was measured at 6'2,75 without shoes at the combine. Number 6 and 17 are listed as 1.84m and 1.91m without shoes.

oddity · Post #60 » by **oddity** » Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:39 pm

I think if he slips to late lotto the Suns would be an excellent fit for him. Can start his career playing behind Rubio and Booker and eventually/potentially grow into a starting role.
Man I like this kid's skillset. He seems the most complete along with TH in that his game is taking shape and forming an identity. His shooting is the most confidence inspiring out of all the point guards in this draft so far, and I really like how he can pull up from midrange or step back for three going left or right. He's shooting 62% at the rim, and that really helps round his scoring out. If anything I think better handling with his right hand could help him; sometimes he struggles to get penetration and draw fouls. Overall though, his scoring is likely to translate well in the nba. Really looking to see a team use his shooting to open up the floor.