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clyde21 wrote:lol nothing has changed from a few months ago when he was playing in China, you're just seeing him in real time against fringe NBA talent and now all the sudden he's not as athletic or not as conditioned as you thought
he's just not very good right now
SNPA wrote:Bump.
Why isn’t this guy at least a second round pick this year?
FarBeyondDriven wrote:SNPA wrote:Bump.
Why isn’t this guy at least a second round pick this year?
I'm not factoring in anyone until I know who is coming out. Learned my lesson last year. NIL has completely changed the landscape and guys overseas have complicated contract statuses.
JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.
babyjax13 wrote:If he has lost 30 pounds and isn't also asthmatic he could be nice. Otherwise he is a second round flier that you hope can physically develop enough to stay on the court in short stretches.
BigGargamel wrote:babyjax13 wrote:If he has lost 30 pounds and isn't also asthmatic he could be nice. Otherwise he is a second round flier that you hope can physically develop enough to stay on the court in short stretches.
This. Classic mid to late 2nd round pick that you hope can defy the odds and become a decent NBA contributor. There is absolutely no reason to take this guy in the first round, not with Wolf, Sorber, Raynaud, Beringer, Kalkbrenner as superior center prospects who should be available in the 20's.
SNPA wrote:BigGargamel wrote:babyjax13 wrote:If he has lost 30 pounds and isn't also asthmatic he could be nice. Otherwise he is a second round flier that you hope can physically develop enough to stay on the court in short stretches.
This. Classic mid to late 2nd round pick that you hope can defy the odds and become a decent NBA contributor. There is absolutely no reason to take this guy in the first round, not with Wolf, Sorber, Raynaud, Beringer, Kalkbrenner as superior center prospects who should be available in the 20's.
Isn’t he the best passer of the bunch?
BigGargamel wrote:SNPA wrote:BigGargamel wrote:
This. Classic mid to late 2nd round pick that you hope can defy the odds and become a decent NBA contributor. There is absolutely no reason to take this guy in the first round, not with Wolf, Sorber, Raynaud, Beringer, Kalkbrenner as superior center prospects who should be available in the 20's.
Isn’t he the best passer of the bunch?
I would say Wolf and Sorber are better. But, what does that really have to do with anything?
You really can't underestimate how bad the competition is in the CBA. It's much worse than American college.
BigGargamel wrote:babyjax13 wrote:If he has lost 30 pounds and isn't also asthmatic he could be nice. Otherwise he is a second round flier that you hope can physically develop enough to stay on the court in short stretches.
This. Classic mid to late 2nd round pick that you hope can defy the odds and become a decent NBA contributor. There is absolutely no reason to take this guy in the first round, not with Wolf, Sorber, Raynaud, Beringer, Kalkbrenner as superior center prospects who should be available in the 20's.
FarBeyondDriven wrote:BigGargamel wrote:babyjax13 wrote:If he has lost 30 pounds and isn't also asthmatic he could be nice. Otherwise he is a second round flier that you hope can physically develop enough to stay on the court in short stretches.
This. Classic mid to late 2nd round pick that you hope can defy the odds and become a decent NBA contributor. There is absolutely no reason to take this guy in the first round, not with Wolf, Sorber, Raynaud, Beringer, Kalkbrenner as superior center prospects who should be available in the 20's.
Yang is much better than all of them
JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.
babyjax13 wrote:FarBeyondDriven wrote:BigGargamel wrote:
This. Classic mid to late 2nd round pick that you hope can defy the odds and become a decent NBA contributor. There is absolutely no reason to take this guy in the first round, not with Wolf, Sorber, Raynaud, Beringer, Kalkbrenner as superior center prospects who should be available in the 20's.
Yang is much better than all of them
Is he in better shape? I watched a few games last season and was disappointed, but no denying that there are some fun tools there. I just worry that he can't get in physical shape to be a consistent contributor (and Im not saying there are work ethic issues, some guys just dont have the right physical attributes). If there is little physical improvement from last season it doesn't bode well for improving his body long term.
FarBeyondDriven wrote:babyjax13 wrote:FarBeyondDriven wrote:
Yang is much better than all of them
Is he in better shape? I watched a few games last season and was disappointed, but no denying that there are some fun tools there. I just worry that he can't get in physical shape to be a consistent contributor (and Im not saying there are work ethic issues, some guys just dont have the right physical attributes). If there is little physical improvement from last season it doesn't bode well for improving his body long term.
he looks noticeably slimmer to me. I don't think he lacks athleticism at all especially for his legit 7' size. It's his conditioning I'm mostly worried about. It's very much a concern. All we can go on right now is how did he look against his peers in international play and the answer is in 7 games he averaged a double double with 5 assists and 5 blocks per game. The combine (if he goes) should provide some insight.
throwing alley oops to himself off the backboard and spin moves into a baseline dunk from outside the paint and bringing up the ball leading fast breaks are not ordinary things for 7 footers. Who are these world-beating centers he needs to worry about outside of a handful? If Edey can contribute and is a first rounder I don't know why Yang couldn't be.
JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.
babyjax13 wrote:FarBeyondDriven wrote:babyjax13 wrote:Is he in better shape? I watched a few games last season and was disappointed, but no denying that there are some fun tools there. I just worry that he can't get in physical shape to be a consistent contributor (and Im not saying there are work ethic issues, some guys just dont have the right physical attributes). If there is little physical improvement from last season it doesn't bode well for improving his body long term.
he looks noticeably slimmer to me. I don't think he lacks athleticism at all especially for his legit 7' size. It's his conditioning I'm mostly worried about. It's very much a concern. All we can go on right now is how did he look against his peers in international play and the answer is in 7 games he averaged a double double with 5 assists and 5 blocks per game. The combine (if he goes) should provide some insight.
throwing alley oops to himself off the backboard and spin moves into a baseline dunk from outside the paint and bringing up the ball leading fast breaks are not ordinary things for 7 footers. Who are these world-beating centers he needs to worry about outside of a handful? If Edey can contribute and is a first rounder I don't know why Yang couldn't be.
Yah, looking side by side at these clips from last year he does look slimmer. I will see if I can get a full game from somewhere.
shangrila wrote:babyjax13 wrote:FarBeyondDriven wrote:
he looks noticeably slimmer to me. I don't think he lacks athleticism at all especially for his legit 7' size. It's his conditioning I'm mostly worried about. It's very much a concern. All we can go on right now is how did he look against his peers in international play and the answer is in 7 games he averaged a double double with 5 assists and 5 blocks per game. The combine (if he goes) should provide some insight.
throwing alley oops to himself off the backboard and spin moves into a baseline dunk from outside the paint and bringing up the ball leading fast breaks are not ordinary things for 7 footers. Who are these world-beating centers he needs to worry about outside of a handful? If Edey can contribute and is a first rounder I don't know why Yang couldn't be.
Yah, looking side by side at these clips from last year he does look slimmer. I will see if I can get a full game from somewhere.
That Slomo-esque Euro is fun.
I wonder if that's a lower end outcome for him? A bigger version of Kyle Anderson?
JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.