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Re: Nolan Traore 

Post#41 » by _jin » Sat May 25, 2024 2:39 pm

coutournant wrote:45 points at the end of the game, breaking ANGT record. His current level of talent is incredible
Hugo Yimga Moukouri is having a great tournament too, big wing (6'9) with very quick feets and a nice soft touch and jumpshot. Only born in 2008. France has great 2008-2009 top talents with HYM, Soliman, Houindo, Towo-Nansi

Yimga Moukouri is having a great tournament. He's the reason INSEP won over OTE, he was unstoppable this game. I never realized his initials were HYM, explains why he's so good, he's HYM. :lol:
I like what I'm seeing from Soliman too, even though he's playing a more supportive role, but for a kid who came to Pole France at 14 as a PG and found himself playing SF this season and now PF/C in that tournament because all 3 INSEP centers are unavailable, I think he's doing great despite unimpressive stats.
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Post#42 » by Chuck Everett » Sat May 25, 2024 7:16 pm

He keeps this up, he's going to be in consideration for the #1 pick in 2025.
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Post#43 » by clyde21 » Sat May 25, 2024 7:51 pm

Chuck Everett wrote:He keeps this up, he's going to be in consideration for the #1 pick in 2025.


probably as good of chance as anyone right now not named Flagg, he looks legit legit
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Post#44 » by Chuck Everett » Sat May 25, 2024 7:56 pm

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Chuck Everett wrote:He keeps this up, he's going to be in consideration for the #1 pick in 2025.


probably as good of chance as anyone right now not named Flagg, he looks legit legit


What kind of PG archetype do you think goes #1 in today's NBA? I know John Wall, Kyrie and Cade did, but I feel like, with the number 1 pick, you'd still ideally want someone better than those guys. That's why I keep hedging that he goes no later than 3-5.

Basically, does Traore have to project to have a Trae Young/Tyrese Haliburton-like impact on an NBA offense? I'm not mentioning Luka because he's just nowhere near as big.
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Re: Nolan Traore 

Post#45 » by remi_222 » Sat May 25, 2024 11:32 pm

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Chuck Everett wrote:He keeps this up, he's going to be in consideration for the #1 pick in 2025.


probably as good of chance as anyone right now not named Flagg, he looks legit legit


What kind of PG archetype do you think goes #1 in today's NBA? I know John Wall, Kyrie and Cade did, but I feel like, with the number 1 pick, you'd still ideally want someone better than those guys. That's why I keep hedging that he goes no later than 3-5.

Basically, does Traore have to project to have a Trae Young/Tyrese Haliburton-like impact on an NBA offense? I'm not mentioning Luka because he's just nowhere near as big.


I understand ! Nolan Traoré is just an anomaly at the PG position for France. The last one who was as good as him and as ready was TP.
He's just more mature, more calm than any other PG that we had in the last 2 decades.
He has a great feeling for the game, handles outside shots pretty well and def can finish close to the rim (TP like kinda) : he always can find a solution, and it's very rare.
Is there any PG of his age right now that can do the same thing and at the same level (including NCAA) ? I don't think so, but is he the flashiest ? no. Is he extraordinary ? no. Not crazy tall neither physical, he's just smart and play smartly.
With him you have a brain, well molded and ultimately that's the archetype of PG that should go top pick anyday.

Now, is he a good reason to miss on Cooper Flagg ? No.
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Re: Nolan Traore 

Post#46 » by CptCrunch » Sun May 26, 2024 3:42 am

This kid looks like a more talented Cade Cunningham without athleticism concerns and better passing chops.

I'm expecting Cooper Flagg to win Naismith Defensive Player of the Year at this point or else it's gonna be hard to keep Traore from going #1.

France is gonna dumpster team USA for years to come at this rate.
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Post#47 » by remi_222 » Sun May 26, 2024 12:57 pm

Football or basketball, it's always the same story : at the end, the Real Madrid wins ...
Paris was ahead of Real all game long, and Real won in OT.
Traore didnt have the same weight on the game compared to the semi final, he was quickly in foul trouble but when played, def brought some energy, calmness and buckets.
The Traoré dependance all game cost Paris the title. Not really organized to play team bball, each position nolan had to run all plays and luckily Bousefaa was perfect to relieve him sometimes.
The last possession to win the game for Paris is the perfect representation of how much Traoré was just too tired !
Too bad for him, Real was just more organized.
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Post#48 » by bananazn » Sun May 26, 2024 1:24 pm

Traore faced superstar defensive coverages... after liting them up for like 3 possessions... blitz trap box and 1 double and triple plus the foul trouble and he could never really get going
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Post#49 » by _jin » Sun May 26, 2024 2:23 pm

Tough game for Traore, those 2 early fouls took him off rhythm but the 3rd one was pretty dumb and useless. Still, I'm impressed that INSEP was able to stay even with Real despite Traore's game. They're much younger than Real and it showed during clutch times. All those kids played 4 games in 4 days but INSEP had 2 close games against OTE and Barca where they had to play their best players big minutes while Real cruised through the tournament giving their big 3 a lot of rest.
But that big 3 was outstanding today, Gonzalez, Demin and Bosnjakovic are all future stars and Diagne was really solid. The rest of the team scored 8 points :lol:

4th ANGT win for Real in 5 editions, proving once again they are by far the best basketball academy in the world.
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Post#50 » by RyugaFan » Sun May 26, 2024 2:30 pm

CptCrunch wrote:This kid looks like a more talented Cade Cunningham without athleticism concerns and better passing chops

While also being several inches shorter
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Post#51 » by RyugaFan » Sun May 26, 2024 2:53 pm

He's very good, I'm trying to think of a comp, Gilbert Arenas?
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Post#52 » by lambchop » Mon May 27, 2024 8:07 am

RyugaFan wrote:He's very good, I'm trying to think of a comp, Gilbert Arenas?


Gilbert Arenas shooting 25% from deep? Arenas' shot selection was terrible, but his stroke was still pure. I don't see that with Traore, his free throw shooting is also generally in the 70s, though proballers has him at 60% free throw shooting last season.
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Post#53 » by coutournant » Mon May 27, 2024 8:29 am

Nolan Traore was shooting 85% at FT last year... this year he is 30% at 3 and 75% at FT.
Shooting is absolutely not best skill but he is improving. I would not compare him to Gilbert Arenas.

He's a complete PG, he can score, pass and defend but his main strength is speed, first step and change of rythm
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Post#54 » by lambchop » Mon May 27, 2024 8:41 am

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clyde21 wrote:
Chuck Everett wrote:He keeps this up, he's going to be in consideration for the #1 pick in 2025.


probably as good of chance as anyone right now not named Flagg, he looks legit legit


What kind of PG archetype do you think goes #1 in today's NBA? I know John Wall, Kyrie and Cade did, but I feel like, with the number 1 pick, you'd still ideally want someone better than those guys. That's why I keep hedging that he goes no later than 3-5.

Basically, does Traore have to project to have a Trae Young/Tyrese Haliburton-like impact on an NBA offense? I'm not mentioning Luka because he's just nowhere near as big.


Kyrie and Trae probably don't go first over Flagg, just due to potential upside. However, I feel as though Kyrie in particular would get picked 2nd at worst, even in today's game. Imo it's the combination of elite shooting and elite ball handling. He shot 45% from deep in college. Yes, the 3 point line was/is closer than the FIBA one, but even if the line were closer, someone like Traore or Topic etc. wouldn't be making them at that clip.

In addition, that elite ability to carve up the D just left no major question marks about his game, except if he could actually be a true PG or more of a scoring guard. Yesterday when faced with double teams, Traore simply had to give the ball up. We all know Kyrie would have toyed with those guys.

Cade is a tricky one cause his numbers were awesome in college too. Definitely not good enough to go first over Flagg, but at 6'8 I think going 2nd would be realistic or, as you said, 3-5 at worst.
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Post#55 » by Chuck Everett » Sat Jun 1, 2024 5:22 pm

Good to see Traore staying in France for another year. No sense in playing NCAA ball where you're at the mercy of refs calling cheap fouls on you to try and get you off the floor. Now that there is no longer a concern there, we can watch his development straight to the 2025 high lotto.
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Post#56 » by _jin » Sun Jun 2, 2024 11:54 am

Chuck Everett wrote:Good to see Traore staying in France for another year. No sense in playing NCAA ball where you're at the mercy of refs calling cheap fouls on you to try and get you off the floor. Now that there is no longer a concern there, we can watch his development straight to the 2025 high lotto.

I'm glad he made that choice. He's going the Wemby/Risacher route by being the main guy on a small budget but ambitious team, which worked perfectly for both of those guys. But he's more advanced in his development than either of them, I'm eager to see what he can do over a full season. Also glad he showed loyalty to the team that gave him a chance.

When interviewed about resigning to SQBB, he mentioned being on the training squad for the Olympics and how he had the opportunity to show what he can do and earn his spot on the Olympics roster. Which means there's still a chance he gets in.
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Post#57 » by Chuck Everett » Sun Jun 2, 2024 12:07 pm

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Chuck Everett wrote:Good to see Traore staying in France for another year. No sense in playing NCAA ball where you're at the mercy of refs calling cheap fouls on you to try and get you off the floor. Now that there is no longer a concern there, we can watch his development straight to the 2025 high lotto.

I'm glad he made that choice. He's going the Wemby/Risacher route by being the main guy on a small budget but ambitious team, which worked perfectly for both of those guys. But he's more advanced in his development than either of them, I'm eager to see what he can do over a full season. Also glad he showed loyalty to the team that gave him a chance.

When interviewed about resigning to SQBB, he mentioned being on the training squad for the Olympics and how he had the opportunity to show what he can do and earn his spot on the Olympics roster. Which means there's still a chance he gets in.


Him being invited to the Olympic team training camp would be awesome for his development and him overall, even if he didn't make the team.

Has any prospect had a better spring than this kid? He's been showing out weekly since the Hoop Summit.
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Post#58 » by _jin » Sun Jun 2, 2024 12:40 pm

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Chuck Everett wrote:Good to see Traore staying in France for another year. No sense in playing NCAA ball where you're at the mercy of refs calling cheap fouls on you to try and get you off the floor. Now that there is no longer a concern there, we can watch his development straight to the 2025 high lotto.

I'm glad he made that choice. He's going the Wemby/Risacher route by being the main guy on a small budget but ambitious team, which worked perfectly for both of those guys. But he's more advanced in his development than either of them, I'm eager to see what he can do over a full season. Also glad he showed loyalty to the team that gave him a chance.

When interviewed about resigning to SQBB, he mentioned being on the training squad for the Olympics and how he had the opportunity to show what he can do and earn his spot on the Olympics roster. Which means there's still a chance he gets in.


Him being invited to the Olympic team training camp would be awesome for his development and him overall, even if he didn't make the team.

Has any prospect had a better spring than this kid? He's been showing out weekly since the Hoop Summit.

Yea those last couple months have been kind of crazy for him. From dominating in the Nike Hoop Summit to being signed to a pro team and helping them secure a playoffs spot to shining in the playoffs to smurfing in the ANGT. He's doing things european kids usually do in the months before being drafted, like Salaun and Risacher did in the recent playoffs, he's doing it at 17 one year away from his draft.

And he could top it off by making the Olympics roster, and I hope he does, I'd much rather have Traore, even if it's too early for him, than Albicy, Hayes, Ntilikina or Maledon.
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Post#59 » by remi_222 » Wed Jun 19, 2024 6:55 am



Documentary with english subtitles, following Traoré and INSEP team during the ANGT Finals in Berlin a month ago.
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