If Scoot were in the 2024 NBA draft...

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Re: If Scoot were in the 2024 NBA draft... 

Post#41 » by JRoy » Mon Dec 9, 2024 11:58 pm

Myth wrote:He’s definitely dropped even more in hindsight. (A) Because he doesn’t really look any better after more time has passed, and (B) because several in this draft are even better than advertised. If we did the same exercise for Scoot now with the 2025 draft, I’m thinking late 1st. Not that there will be 20+ better than him, but teams would rather take a bigger swing at unknowns than a now older prospect not making the hoped for improvements.


He isn’t really good at anything, though he is somewhat less terrible in some aspects.

He looks like a career back up at best, more likely straight bust.
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Re: If Scoot were in the 2024 NBA draft... 

Post#42 » by babyjax13 » Tue Dec 10, 2024 12:13 am

GreatWhiteStiff wrote:I think really bad players have terrible stretches of games because they're really bad players. You shouldn't discount them and call them noise. I remember this happening with Killian Hayes, he had a terrible stretch of games, then started and had a good stretch of games, pistons fans acted like this guy was an nba starter, I argued he just had a terrible stretch of games because he's a bad player and they have terrible stretches of games at times. But there was almost universal agreement that Killian Hayes was simply a good offensive player (at the time). Bad stretches/games you can't just discount them. Anyways he was out of the league, still a bad offensive player a year or so later, so I won that one in the end. Scoots still developing but I'd still argue that he has absolute terrible games because he's not good, and not being ready at the beginning of the season and putting up terrible games isn't a good sign either (to me at least).

I'm not really discounting those games, just saying that an entire season will show us how close to the norm that stretch is (I'm hopeful that he is better than those first three games and that they are abnormal, but they may not be).
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Re: If Scoot were in the 2024 NBA draft... 

Post#43 » by Big J » Mon Dec 16, 2024 5:11 am

clyde21 wrote:#1 and it wouldn't be particularly close


Do we still think this?
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Re: If Scoot were in the 2024 NBA draft... 

Post#44 » by SeattleJazzFan » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:11 pm

it's probably true that he would have been #1. but it would have just as dumb as it was taking him #3 in his draft. if he would have been born a year later, it wouldn't make draft evaluators any less dumb. so yeah, #1 easily. in this case clyde is absolutely right.
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Re: If Scoot were in the 2024 NBA draft... 

Post#45 » by HadAnEffectHere » Mon Dec 16, 2024 9:17 pm

The Scoot thing is weird because NBA evaluations of "hyper quick PG who can't jump or shoot" progressed like follows:

2014: Dante Exum, 5th overall
2023: Scoot Henderson, 3rd overall
2024: Isaiah Collier, 29th overall

It's weird how the NBA immediately realized that the Scoot archetype was a bad idea in one year.

(Collier has been absolutely terrible so it wasn't wrong for him to fall to 29th)

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