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Post#41 » by nyk2423 » Wed May 14, 2008 1:07 pm

BBen wrote:Haha, I bet you could moocow! I think it would be great for basketball in general if New York could field a good team finally. I would have no problem with them getting a top two pick.

Teams like LA and New York have such huge fanbases that it can and will drive the sport to be more popular worldwide. For example I am living in Argentina and there are countless San Antonio fans of course (because of Ginobli) but the fans that were there before their national hero are always New York or LA fans. If New York is a perennial bottom feeder why should these fans continue to watch the game?

I just wish that the native Knicks fans (the younger generation) would be a little less aggressive and in general somewhat more educated about the sport (highlights do not = victory).



Come on man, have you ever been to a Knicks game?If you have then you would have noticed that when ever somebody hustles or makes a smart play then the crowd cheers.For example when ever there is a back door cut and the pass is made the crowd cheers.But the last couple of years the fans at the games have just been frustrated because of the lack of bball IQ and hustle and that is the main reason why Knick fans are overrating Balk,Nate, and Lee.But Wilson Chandler is the real deal
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Post#42 » by Devilzsidewalk » Wed May 14, 2008 1:35 pm

nyk2423 wrote:Come on man, have you ever been to a Knicks game?If you have then you would have noticed that when ever somebody hustles or makes a smart play then the crowd cheers.For example when ever there is a back door cut and the pass is made the crowd cheers.But the last couple of years the fans at the games have just been frustrated because of the lack of bball IQ and hustle and that is the main reason why Knick fans are overrating Balk,Nate, and Lee.But Wilson Chandler is the real deal


Wolves will trade you mark Madsen for your first rounder. I can guarantee you that Mad Dog hustles more and has a higher b-ball IQ than whomever you draft this year.
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Post#43 » by LaymansTerms » Wed May 14, 2008 10:52 pm

Every time the Knicks have a lottery pick people predict they will get a top 3 pick. The Knicks haven't had a top 3 pick in 23 years and that isn't changing now.
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Post#44 » by kookie_819 » Wed May 14, 2008 11:35 pm

I'm seriously hoping that Miami drops to #3. But that's only because I'm a Magic fan :wink:
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Post#45 » by BBen » Thu May 15, 2008 12:17 am

Come on man, have you ever been to a Knicks game?If you have then you would have noticed that when ever somebody hustles or makes a smart play then the crowd cheers.For example when ever there is a back door cut and the pass is made the crowd cheers.But the last couple of years the fans at the games have just been frustrated because of the lack of bball IQ and hustle and that is the main reason why Knick fans are overrating Balk,Nate, and Lee.But Wilson Chandler is the real deal


This post made me lol irl.
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Post#46 » by nyk2423 » Thu May 15, 2008 12:24 pm

BBen wrote:
Come on man, have you ever been to a Knicks game?If you have then you would have noticed that when ever somebody hustles or makes a smart play then the crowd cheers.For example when ever there is a back door cut and the pass is made the crowd cheers.But the last couple of years the fans at the games have just been frustrated because of the lack of bball IQ and hustle and that is the main reason why Knick fans are overrating Balk,Nate, and Lee.But Wilson Chandler is the real deal


This post made me lol irl.


Its funny because I highly doubt you have ever seen him play.Watch the kid play and you see the promise that he has, but by no means am I saying he will be an All Star.I am just trying to say that out of those four Wilson will be the best player but maybe not the most valluable player(lee)
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Post#47 » by Young_Star11 » Sat May 17, 2008 8:31 am

I hope for:

1. New York - Derrick Rose
D'Antoni needs a PG to run the show. The pressure will be on him, but he's going to be a big-time player in a big-time market.

2. Miami - Michael Beasley
Since NY takes Rose, Miami has to take Beasley. He gets a nice ride along with Wade and Marion and plays the Antwan Jamison-type third-wheel early on.

3. LA Clippers - OJ Mayo
The Clippers pray for Shaun Livingston to return to the court. Mayo is the two-guard they've been looking for - the ability to put the ball in the basket and bring stellar play to them.

4. Seattle - Jerryd Bayless
Clearly, Seattle need a PG. They go for Bayless, a combo-guard type who can play well off the ball and shoot well.

5. Memphis - Brook Lopez
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Post#48 » by Klomp » Sat May 17, 2008 3:16 pm

Young_Star11 wrote:I hope for:

1. New York - Derrick Rose
D'Antoni needs a PG to run the show. The pressure will be on him, but he's going to be a big-time player in a big-time market.

2. Miami - Michael Beasley
Since NY takes Rose, Miami has to take Beasley. He gets a nice ride along with Wade and Marion and plays the Antwan Jamison-type third-wheel early on.

3. LA Clippers - OJ Mayo
The Clippers pray for Shaun Livingston to return to the court. Mayo is the two-guard they've been looking for - the ability to put the ball in the basket and bring stellar play to them.

4. Seattle - Jerryd Bayless
Clearly, Seattle need a PG. They go for Bayless, a combo-guard type who can play well off the ball and shoot well.

5. Memphis - Brook Lopez


That is an impossible scenario. The only way for Minnesota to drop to 6 is that 3 teams move ahead of the top three teams, pushing them to 4-5-6.
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Post#49 » by eyriq » Sun May 18, 2008 3:25 am

For the record, here is how it will go down;

1st Timberwolves: Beasley
2cd Bobcats: Rose
3rd Pacers: Lopez
4th Heat: Bayless
5th Sonics: Mayo
6th Grizzlies: Gordon
7th Knicks: Westbrook
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Post#50 » by KnickJunior » Sun May 18, 2008 6:03 am

Knicks get the 1st pick :D
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Post#51 » by CB4MiamiHeat » Sun May 18, 2008 6:21 am

1. Clippers
2. Knicks
3. Sonics
4. Heat
5. Twolves
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Post#52 » by Vlade4life » Sun May 18, 2008 7:38 am

The kings deserve a serious lucky bounce in this lottery more than anyone. Why you ask? Because they've been totally mediocre which has them out of the franchise player range, while their upper mgt. continues to acquire mediocre talent and handing out MLE sized deals like candy in order to stay mediocre. Yea, the 01-03 time was pretty winningful and the couple years surrounding before and after were technically winning seasons, but that was only so they could get their hearts ripped out of their chests by Horry's 3 and Webber's knee injury. Memphis, Minny, Seattle, and Miami all have serious cap space bound to come up while Sacramento has to wait until 2010 barring no more (Please Use More Appropriate Word) free agent signings. Also, Miami and Seattle have very good franchise players to build around already; and Miami recently gave up quite a bit of young talent to get Shaq and a championship, they deserve a little down time before they get back into things. Minny is up there in deserving some luck though, I got to give them that. I have no hard feelings towards the clippers, but they already have some serious talent there, alot of high picks in the past, and not getting a top 3 pick and settling for Gordon or something wouldn't kill them. Memphis? Stupid trades focusing solely on making the team more appealing to potential buyers should not be rewarded; I know it's not the fans fault, but bad karma. Knicks? They'd just find a way screw it up anyways.

I'm sure I'm being bias and somewhat narrow minded in all this, but I got to stick up for them. The kings have been kicked in the face with weirdly cruel bad luck for so long and have been so forgotten, they deserve a crazy twist of luck and a little spotlight on the nat'l scene. Also, they're letting a fan go as opposed to a player or some boring exec/staff member.

So if I had to choose it would be

1. Sacramento
2. Minnesota
3. Seattle
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Post#53 » by BBen » Sun May 18, 2008 3:27 pm

The kings deserve a serious lucky bounce in this lottery more than anyone. Why you ask? Because they've been totally mediocre which has them out of the franchise player range, while their upper mgt. continues to acquire mediocre talent and handing out MLE sized deals like candy in order to stay mediocre.


What about that makes you "deserve" a top pick? Sounds like serious entitlement issues to me.

P.S. Are you familiar at all with what the Minnesota fans went through from the whole Joe Smith fiasco? I have 0 sympathy for you and your "weirdly bad luck" which is just bad management.
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Post#54 » by Vlade4life » Sun May 18, 2008 6:21 pm

BBen wrote:
The kings deserve a serious lucky bounce in this lottery more than anyone. Why you ask? Because they've been totally mediocre which has them out of the franchise player range, while their upper mgt. continues to acquire mediocre talent and handing out MLE sized deals like candy in order to stay mediocre.


What about that makes you "deserve" a top pick? Sounds like serious entitlement issues to me.

P.S. Are you familiar at all with what the Minnesota fans went through from the whole Joe Smith fiasco? I have 0 sympathy for you and your "weirdly bad luck" which is just bad management.


LOL, I took nothing away from Minny, I admitted they have it rough. Entitlement? Nah, just trying to throw a little something out there for the kings. I thought my part at the end was enough to point out I wasn't being completely serious but just trying to stand up for my team.

I'm right about the mediocrity vs. bottom barrel teams though, it's a much better situation to be a bottom barrel team than a fringe playoff team that's going nowhere but down on the installment plan. Not good enough to get into or do anything in the playoffs not bad enough to get a dfference maker in the draft.

I really wouldn't bring up bad management if I were you if you want to throw the Joe Smith thing at me.
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Post#55 » by AQuintus » Sun May 18, 2008 6:26 pm

BBen wrote:
The kings deserve a serious lucky bounce in this lottery more than anyone. Why you ask? Because they've been totally mediocre which has them out of the franchise player range, while their upper mgt. continues to acquire mediocre talent and handing out MLE sized deals like candy in order to stay mediocre.


What about that makes you "deserve" a top pick? Sounds like serious entitlement issues to me.

P.S. Are you familiar at all with what the Minnesota fans went through from the whole Joe Smith fiasco? I have 0 sympathy for you and your "weirdly bad luck" which is just bad management.


I would say that the whole Joe Smith thing wasn't even the wort luck that Minnesota had. The worst was the 1992 draft. Minnesota finished the season with the worst record and ended up picking third, Christian Laettner. The first two picks? Shaq and Alanzo Mourning.
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Post#56 » by gswhoops » Sun May 18, 2008 6:41 pm

1. Golden State (Beasley)
2. New York (Rose)
3. Minnesota (Mayo)
4. Miami (B. Lopez)
5. Seattle (Bayless)
6. Memphis (Gordon)
7. LA Clippers (Westbrook)
8. Milwaukee (Gallinari)
9. Charlotte (Love)
10. Chicago (Jordan)
11. New Jersey (Randolph)
12. Indiana (Augustin)
13. Sacramento (Speights)
14. Portland (Budinger?)

This works well to accomplish the ultimate conpiratorial goal of getting Derrick Rose to NY so the Knicks can rise again, giving the league a new vanguard of Lakers, Celtics, Knicks. Since giving them the #1 pick would be too obvious, they give it to a team that they know will take Beasley (the Warriors) assuring Rose ends up in NY. Minnesota gets the #3 to continue building around Jefferson.
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Post#57 » by Smills91 » Sun May 18, 2008 7:03 pm

gswhoops wrote:1. Golden State (Beasley)
2. New York (Rose)
3. Minnesota (Mayo)
4. Miami (B. Lopez)
5. Seattle (Bayless)
6. Memphis (Gordon)
7. LA Clippers (Westbrook)
8. Milwaukee (Gallinari)
9. Charlotte (Love)
10. Chicago (Jordan)
11. New Jersey (Randolph)
12. Indiana (Augustin)
13. Sacramento (Speights)
14. Portland (Budinger?)

This works well to accomplish the ultimate conpiratorial goal of getting Derrick Rose to NY so the Knicks can rise again, giving the league a new vanguard of Lakers, Celtics, Knicks. Since giving them the #1 pick would be too obvious, they give it to a team that they know will take Beasley (the Warriors) assuring Rose ends up in NY. Minnesota gets the #3 to continue building around Jefferson.

Purely conspiratorially speaking, Memphis/Milwaukee would be MUCH easier to land the #1 spot to.
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Post#58 » by gswhoops » Mon May 19, 2008 2:15 pm

Smills91 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


Purely conspiratorially speaking, Memphis/Milwaukee would be MUCH easier to land the #1 spot to.

Yes, but those teams could go with either Rose or Beasley, which defeats the purpose of the conspiracy (getting Rose to NY without making it an obvious fix).

The Warriors would clearly take Beasley over Rose since we have Baron and Ellis. Plus, I want the Warriors to get Beasley :D
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Post#59 » by little_cleo » Mon May 19, 2008 3:10 pm

1 -Milwaukee -Michael Beasley -team is than sold to a group of Chinese Investors Chicago Bulls owner cries foul but no-dice
2 -New York -Derrick Rose -favored big market gets their player with less mess of a "fix"
3 -Miami -Jerryd Bayless -fair weather sportstown gets to look forward to another lottery draft next year
4 -Minnesota -Brook Lopez -feeling they might be the suprize "what were they thinking" of this draft and go with DeAndre Jordan instead
5 -Seatle -Kevin Love -a fan favorite for a new city to "Love" and market
6 -Memphis -Eric Gordon -fills a scoring need
7 - LA Clippers -OJ Mayo -remains in area
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Post#60 » by NO-KG-AI » Mon May 19, 2008 3:17 pm

You are all wayy overrating the impact Derrek Rose will have. Launching New York into the LA/Bos level? roflmao.
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