BREAKING NEWS, OJ Mayo took money!!

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Post#41 » by PhilipNelsonFan » Tue May 13, 2008 7:20 pm

wilt wrote:And i am still amazed that people see that guy
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Post#42 » by GSW2K4 » Tue May 13, 2008 7:48 pm

Doctor MJ wrote:Boy I tell you, ya knew this was coming. Not speaking to Mayo specifically, but you force a bunch of guys to come to college who literally have no use for it, and expect them to live in poverty when people are offering to give them whatever they want? C'mon.


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It's good for the NBA for people to get an NCAA preview of potential prospects. It was never good for the NCAA.

Better for the NBA is to allow these high schoolers to be drafted, and then say they have to spend a year (or two) in the D-League and develop there.

That helps the NBA more by bringing more attention (and revenue -- imagine Mayo d-league jerseys selling) to the d-league. It also allows college basketball to be for players who are truly dedicated to being student-athletes.

Baseball and hockey have bolstered their minor leagues to accommodate young players. The NFL has a 3 year eligibility rule (that is probably in place for more practical reasons such as physical development).

This 1 year eligibility rule is a joke. Any claim that it's for the good of the players to get an education is completely false -- even the "ordinary" student does very little of academic significance in freshman year. Coaches that recruit them know they don't have much time to develop them and just use their talent as a means to "win now". Who cares if Mayo took money? He was essentially a professional athlete in waiting who was using the NCAA as an extended try-out.

All Mayo did was exploit this situation for his own good -- found a school in a major market, with a prominent name, without a huge basketball tradition, and a former NBA coach who could get him ready for what he would encounter (though I would never consider Floyd a great coach of anything).

This whole thing has no bearing on his draft status and the NCAA should be looking to the NBA to take responsibility for this mess...
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Post#43 » by PhilipNelsonFan » Tue May 13, 2008 7:53 pm

GSW2K4 wrote:This whole thing has no bearing on his draft status and the NCAA should be looking to the NBA to take responsibility for this mess...


...which the NBA won't and shouldn't do. Why should they be held liable because people want to play in the league? The "Jackass" principle in action.

You'd think every obvious "one-and-done" freshman would be taking in as much of this money as they can in that scenario...so why aren't they?
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Post#44 » by GSW2K4 » Tue May 13, 2008 8:21 pm

I don't think the NBA will at all... my point is there's not much that can be done about it from an NCAA perspective.

A one and done rule is weak and until the NBA changes that -- which is entirely up to them to decide -- this will continue happening. That doesn't mean the NCAA should do anything to the NBA..except try to work with them to figure out a system that works for both parties.

To your last point, a lot of these "one and done" freshman probably are taking as much of this money as they can..without getting caught. And let's be honest, this probably goes on a lot more than we hear about in the media. I'm sure Mayo is not the only one taking "benefits" along the way.

And in this case, Mayo's status as a high profile player is probably why that guy came forward in the first place. Let's not forget, Mayo's life nor his entry into the NCAA are typical -- Mayo and folks around him actively constructed this very public persona and it just hasn't turned out as well as they originally thought.
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Post#45 » by wilt » Wed May 14, 2008 7:57 pm

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Wilt, you're a good poster and I enjoy reading what you have to say...but are you f**king kidding me?? Guillory, Johnson and Mayo left a paper trail a mile long, and some of it has been DIRECTLY traced back to Mayo and Guillory. We all know the eligibility rules...what more do you need to convince you?



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Post#46 » by HMFFL » Wed May 14, 2008 8:30 pm

Billy wrote:USC's going to get a slap on the wrist.


It's always the case. I wish they would make a rule that doesn't allow a player to be eligible for the NBA Draft for a year or two during cases like these.
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Post#47 » by ljp24 » Wed May 14, 2008 9:48 pm

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It's always the case. I wish they would make a rule that doesn't allow a player to be eligible for the NBA Draft for a year or two during cases like these.


Screw that. First you force players to waste a year of their talent at college now you're punishing them?
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Post#48 » by Blame Rasho » Wed May 14, 2008 9:51 pm

ljp24 wrote:Screw that. First you force players to waste a year of their talent at college now you're punishing them?


They should have never put a limit in the first place but as much as people will complain I doubt that it will be overturned. Look at the impact the one and done stars did. Melo, Oden, Durant,....
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Post#49 » by HMFFL » Thu May 15, 2008 12:29 am

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Screw that. First you force players to waste a year of their talent at college now you're punishing them?



So zero punishment should await OJ? It doesn't sit well with me when College players break the rules. While we don't hear about it most of the time, it's still wrong, and the school is normally the one that's punished.

I'm going to ignore the waiting a year rule because that's just going off-topic.

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