Why is Evan Turner under the radar?

vincecarter4pres · Post #41 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Mon Mar 9, 2009 9:58 pm

I'm sorry, but everyone else who has watched him numerous times and replied to your comparison of Josh Chill, in this thread has said it is a bad comparison.
Yes, I will admit, yo-yo handle is a little exhuberant, but his handle is very solid.
Let's also be honest with ourselves, his TO's are mainly a direct result of being asked to play multiple positions, do too much and over handle the ball as well, not the result of a suspect handle.
The kid played point guard in high school till he had a huge growth spurt, he was 5'10 as a sophomore, he has said he wanted to be a point guard, but he knows it is now unrealistic.

NewWolvesOrder · Post #42 » by **NewWolvesOrder** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:20 am

turner is a point forward, he can run offense for your team, childress is your rich man's corey brewer.

Cammo101 · Post #43 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 5:07 am

james harden wrote:turner is a point forward, he can run offense for your team, childress is your rich man's corey brewer.

I hope for his sake you are wrong. Turner is 6'5'' and a good 3 inches shorter than Brewer.

NewWolvesOrder · Post #44 » by **NewWolvesOrder** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:50 pm

wow that's just proves that you never saw him play, because if did you would see that he is legit 6''7 with long arms, even DX mentions that he grew an inch since last season when he was 6''6.
and Brewer is 6''8 with very modest wingspan, he looks long because he is so skinny.

23-7 · Post #45 » by **23-7** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:35 pm

Cammo101 wrote:
james harden wrote:turner is a point forward, he can run offense for your team, childress is your rich man's corey brewer.

I hope for his sake you are wrong. Turner is 6'5'' and a good 3 inches shorter than Brewer.

6'5" this is laugable

Cammo101 · Post #46 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:12 pm

It will be interesting to see him measured. His height is all over the map depending on what site you are on. His height will go a long way in saying how early he can be picked.

ManualRam · Post #47 » by **ManualRam** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:02 pm

Cammo101 wrote:It will be interesting to see him measured. His height is all over the map depending on what site you are on. His height will go a long way in saying how early he can be picked.

link me to one site that says hes anything other than 6'7

vincecarter4pres · Post #48 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:15 pm

He's easily 6'7. Very long. 6'5? Seriously, where did you get that from? Being contraversal for the sake of being contraversal? Have you seen him play? And Slam, you deliberately took me out of context when you quoted me. I said I had seen him play once, as in focused mainly on him, it was probably the 5th time I saw Ohio State play this season, just the 1st since the very beginning of the season and the first that I watched to really focus on him.

Cammo101 · Post #49 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:57 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:He's easily 6'7. Very long. 6'5? Seriously, where did you get that from? Being contraversal for the sake of being contraversal? Have you seen him play? And Slam, you deliberately took me out of context when you quoted me. I said I had seen him play once, as in focused mainly on him, it was probably the 5th time I saw Ohio State play this season, just the 1st since the very beginning of the season and the first that I watched to really focus on him.

ManualRam wrote:link me to one site that says hes anything other than 6'7

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/evan-turner

That is where I got his height in the first place when I first added him to my site. They added him an inch to 6'6'' since then I see.

Though I like the whole controversial idea better. What is more controversial then listing a guy one inch shorter than the next guy. For my next evil trick I will list Eric Maynor 4 pounds lighter than he actually is. *evil sadistic laugh*

ManualRam · Post #50 » by **ManualRam** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:21 pm

interesting. that's what he was listed at his senior yr in high school. smth like 6'6 175. everywhere else he's listed as 6'7 205.

cmd1985 · Post #51 » by **cmd1985** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 2:32 am

I don't know if Turner is 6'7, in HS he played Rose a couple times a was 2 maybe 3 inches bigger. Also Turner is a nice wing prospect, he does a lot of things well but doesn't do anything great and needs to add a lot of weight because he is not that good at finishing his drives to the basket.

Post #52 » by **tsherkin** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:17 pm

BigSlam wrote:Turner doesn't have a "yo-yo handle". He has a very nice cross over that he uses to break down his defender over a short distance. If he had a "yo-yo handle" I'm not sure he would be averaging 3.5 turn overs a game?

Not that I want to defend "yo-yo handle" because I haven't watched Turner in a single game, but turnovers and ball-handling ability are not so directly correlated. Wade has one of the best handles in the league, and he's never averaged under 3.3 TOR36 in his entire career, and himself averaged 3 tpg as a freshman at Marquette. He's got 3 NBA seasons with averages over 4 tpg, but you'd never question his handle. Likewise Iverson.

Just saying. Maybe it's more related to the caliber of his teammates, or the defenses he faces, or maybe he forces things BECAUSE he has a good handle (a common occurrence)?

EDIT: Allow me to add this.

Prior to the 2003 draft, a site said THIS about WADE...

The big dig on Wade is that he is perceived to be too small to play shooting guard and might not have the ball-handling skills to run an NBA offence. Still needs to work on his jump shot and must improve behind the NBA three-point arc.

Wade measured 6'5 in shoes with a 6'11 wingspan, had just finished torching people off the bounce in his college career and people still said this about him.

NYC2BGI · Post #53 » by **NYC2BGI** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:35 pm

NUNBETTA wrote:I read about him on Draftexpress just yesterday and I was intrigued. He sounds like precisely the type of prospect that the Toronto Raptors could use.

Question for those that have seen him: if he were to declare this year, what range might he be selected in? Late lottery?

Sounds like the type that the Knicks need.

Chi Roses 1 · Post #54 » by **Chi Roses 1** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 5:11 pm

for whatever it is worth I went to school with Evan (st joes) and he told people that he would declare after his sophomore season if he was a lottery pick. btw he was 6'5.5 as a senior.

raleigh · Post #55 » by **raleigh** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:33 am

Watched him over the last two days and am trying to figure out how in the world he's a late lotto pick. He's got tremendous upside. A sensational player.

Having watched Childress for four years as a Hawks' fan, Turner is a far more creative and skilled offensive player. I'd be delighted if he fell to the Hawks at/around 19.

vincecarter4pres · Post #56 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:35 am

mrhonline wrote:Watched him over the last two days and am trying to figure out how in the world he's a late lotto pick. He's got tremendous upside. A sensational player.

Having watched Childress for four years as a Hawks' fan, Turner is a far more creative and skilled offensive player. I'd be delighted if he fell to the Hawks at/around 19.

Don't worry, he'll be a top 10 pick by the time the draft rolls around.

NewWolvesOrder · Post #57 » by **NewWolvesOrder** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:40 am

second best sg in the draft after harden, if your team's pg sucks at running offense you take turner

dennistokyo · Post #58 » by **dennistokyo** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:42 pm

God, let the Raptors grab him at 7.

ManualRam · Post #59 » by **ManualRam** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:05 pm

dennistokyo wrote:God, let the Raptors grab him at 7.

i thought raps fans want an athletic slasher who can create his own offense and draw fouls? turner is good, but i think he'd just add on to the overall softness of the raps. they need someone more rugged and aggressive.

Post #60 » by **BigSlam** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:18 pm

ManualRam wrote:
dennistokyo wrote:God, let the Raptors grab him at 7.

i thought raps fans want an athletic slasher who can create his own offense and draw fouls? turner is good, but i think he'd just add on to the overall softness of the raps. they need someone more rugged and aggressive.

I agree. I would have thought that Tyreke would be a much better fit on the Raps?