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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#401 » by Curmudgeon » Tue May 31, 2016 2:13 pm

Maybe I am underrating Waiters, but if that draft were redone based on what we know today, Waiters would not have gone nearly as high.

Lillard, Barnes, Ross, Drummond, Fournier, Crowder, Draymond Green, Kris Middleton and Will Barton are all better players.

Let me add my list of sleepers who I believe will make NBA rosters and outperform their projected draft positions:

Jarrod Uthoff (best pure shooter in the draft-- better than Hield)
Georgious Pappagiannis (7-3, good hands, draft and stash guy)
Pascal Siakam (for reasons others have stated. "Air Cameroon")
Whitehead (the talent is there)
Georges Niang (Jared Dudley 2.0)
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#402 » by FreakMaster » Sun Jun 12, 2016 10:25 pm

If there's a 7 ft 270 lb center with a 7'3" wingspan who was named conference defensive player of the year, and is efficient in blocking shots with both hands, plus is able to play man on man defense as well as help D as a secondary defender would he be a great candidate for a lottery pick?

What if this player had a deft shooting touch from the college 3 pt line in, and with his strength and bulk physique made him have the highest low post scoring percentage in college? Where he go in this yrs draft?

Purdue's AJ Hammons... mock draft mockery

@14 & 48 FreakMaster would like to see any of the following players in a Chicago Bulls uniform next season.

1. A.J. Hammons
2. Dejounte Murray
3. Furkan Korkmaz
4. Kris Dunn
5. Anthony Cat Barber
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#403 » by zzaj » Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:38 pm

Guerschon Yabusele is someone that I could see as a sleeper if given minutes. 6'8", 265lb PF with a 7'1" wingspan that shot 42% from 3pt in France. Projected as an end of the 2nd rounder...
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#404 » by GimmeDat » Sat Jun 18, 2016 1:56 am

zzaj wrote:Guerschon Yabusele is someone that I could see as a sleeper if given minutes. 6'8", 265lb PF with a 7'1" wingspan that shot 42% from 3pt in France. Projected as an end of the 2nd rounder...


I think he's risen to being a fringe first rounder. He's a nice prospect.
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Post#405 » by doordoor123 » Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:33 pm

GimmeDat wrote:
zzaj wrote:Guerschon Yabusele is someone that I could see as a sleeper if given minutes. 6'8", 265lb PF with a 7'1" wingspan that shot 42% from 3pt in France. Projected as an end of the 2nd rounder...


I think he's risen to being a fringe first rounder. He's a nice prospect.


Yeah, I like him as someone that can contribute right away.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#406 » by No-Man » Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:51 pm

Yabusele and Zagorac are guys that I wont be surprised if they go lotto
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Post#407 » by doordoor123 » Sun Jun 19, 2016 1:45 pm

Fischella wrote:Yabusele and Zagorac are guys that I wont be surprised if they go lotto


I like Yabusele better than Hernangomez, but I wouldn't take Zagorac over Bembry. I WOULD be surprised if Zagorac was a lottery selection, but he has the talent of a lottery selection.
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Post#408 » by No-Man » Sun Jun 19, 2016 2:01 pm

The problem with Zagorac is that he is slow footed and gets blown by defensively, he has insane length though, so it could be workeable, his shooting is erratic and needs to improve his technique but his touch and length are encouraging, he is a special player that needs the right enviroment to develop, his game is unique.
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Post#409 » by doordoor123 » Sun Jun 19, 2016 2:03 pm

Fischella wrote:The problem with Zagorac is that he is slow footed and gets blown by defensively, he has insane length though, so it could be workeable, his shooting is erratic and needs to improve his technique but his touch and length are encouraging, he is a special player that needs the right enviroment to develop, his game is unique.


Yeah, he could become a Gordon Hayward-type player with the right development.
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Post#410 » by sweetcity » Tue Jun 21, 2016 1:28 am

Pat McCaw is a late 1st round sleeper. watch G ST draft him and him fill in for Barnes' minutes
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Post#411 » by 12footrim » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:43 pm

I don't think these guy should be drafted or anything but someone should invite them to camp.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21lXMmn6Cg0[/youtube]

He's a legit 6-5, 200lb point guard that's athletic, hit about 40% of his 3's and got to the rim and line often. Some of his best games vs good competition in his career as well.

This guy as well.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht0tSjOVUxQ[/youtube]

6-7 guys that hit 54% and 50% of his three's on huge volume as a Jr and SR and average 25ppg are worth a look. Don't care where he played, although playing for the #1 team in D2 isn't really a knock IMO.
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Post#412 » by PerkinsFor3 » Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:25 pm

sweetcity wrote:Pat McCaw is a late 1st round sleeper. watch G ST draft him and him fill in for Barnes' minutes


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Post#413 » by 165bows » Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:04 am

Fischella wrote:Yabusele and Zagorac are guys that I wont be surprised if they go lotto

Another one that deserves mention. Not lotto but only missed it by two spots, really a much bigger upset than McCaw at 30.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#414 » by No-Man » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:55 pm

Fischella wrote:Some of them are not been talked about because people project them for 2017 or future drafts, some are just under the radar, a list of sleepers that might end up in the 1st or even the lottery,

Deyonta Davis just turned 19, long, athletic, high work ethic, calm demeanor, high motor, can hit the jumper, high productivity, cut by AD mold physically.
Caleb Swanigan 97' kid, strong and sturdy, but quick, really good passer, confident in his jumper although needs consistency, tenacious rebounder, little Draymond to his game.
Dedric Lawson, comforward with length, mass and really smooth, talented scorer, great finisher, needs to improve his range, really good rebounder, 97' kid also, little similar to Tobias Harris/TJ Warren.
Juancho Hernangómez, highest upside from Spain since Rubio, another comboforward with hops, long, and plays with an attitude, can shot and is a ferocious rebounder, similar to Andres Nocioni in some parts of his game, but bigger.
Marquese Chriss, another PF with length, smooth athlete with a jumper, runs the floor well, sneaky athletic.
Tyler Lydon, stretch PF that does a bit of everything, really solid rebounding the ball, big frame although he needs to add weight, block shots and is active defensively.
Patrick McCaw, similar built to CBrewer, lanky, long, athletic, good ballhandler with good vision, can create for others, best playmaker UNLV has had in forever, good shooter, extremely effective defending passing lines.
Robert Carter Jr., another smallball C type, with range, mobility, and strength, not quite the passer but he plays smart.
Vince Edwards , another Purdue guy, playing SF but he could clearly produce more offensively in another offense with more space, pass the ball, improved from 3, size, length, good frame, 96' kid.
Luke Kornet, face-up PF, has improved his physique and has been way better as a rebounder and shotblocker, ways to go, but at 7-1 he has an interesting mix of tools, late-bloomer also he grew 9 inches in a year and a half (similar story sort of of Kaminsky).
Derrick Jones Jr, sort of combo-forward playing for UNLV too, unreal athlete, highlight reel, has length and hops, good shotblocker, plays with passion but cant shot.

Wade Baldwin IV and Ivan Rabb are more or less well known but they are still underrated.

Which other sleepers have you targeted?


Man I had a really good year last year, gotta find some sleepers again for 2017 now
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#415 » by Kolkmania » Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:35 am

I'm expecting Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk to have a breakout season. With all the talk about Josh Jackson and the attention he's going to attract in the court he's going to get plenty catch and shoot opportunities (if he gets enough minutes of course). Don't forget that he's a junior who's still younger(!!) than Josh Jackson. I think he could rise into the lottery.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#416 » by doordoor123 » Sat Nov 12, 2016 11:07 am

The first round this year will be insane
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#417 » by No-Man » Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:25 pm

It's been 2 days so still early but some guys have caught my eye already will wait around a week or two to come up with updates in terms of sleepers and new board.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#418 » by Justwar » Sun Nov 13, 2016 4:29 pm

I think Derek willis is making himself a draftable prospect. 6'9 athletic and can shoot. Right now he is uks best player. Interested in how he matches up with bridges
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Post#419 » by 12footrim » Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:35 pm

12footrim wrote:I don't think these guy should be drafted or anything but someone should invite them to camp.



He's a legit 6-5, 200lb point guard that's athletic, hit about 40% of his 3's and got to the rim and line often. Some of his best games vs good competition in his career as well.




Prince Williams had 16 points in his 1st Dleague game. 4-6 from 3. I didn't know how his 3 ball would translate but if it goes this good and he's going to be a real threat from NBA three I do think he has a shot at cup of coffee in the NBA. He's got a great handle and legit PG skills at 6-5 and really athletic. NBA 3 point shooting was his major question.

The other dude I mentioned on here that's 6-7 and owns the NCAA three point % record at 374-of-712 (.525) which is still incredible is playing in Spain.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#420 » by doordoor123 » Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:41 am

Kaleb Swanigan lost a lot of weight. He must have pushed himself this offseason. I really think he's going to be a steal wherever he goes. You can just tell he loves basketball by the way he plays. If he can push himself to get his body right, he can push his skills to higher and higher levels. I'm a fan.

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