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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#401 » by DroseReturnChi » Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:49 am

clyde21 wrote:Cleveland should never be allowed to pick in the top 3 ever again if they let Mobley drop to 4 (i already want a 10 year ban on them picking in the top 5)


i was down on this kid but yeah this draft stinks like 2020 he should be a easy top 2 at this point. Its not like mobley deserves 2 but no way hes a worse prospect than green. rather experiment mobley bust as a chris bosh clone than a trillion sgs.
This draft is a one man draft with Cade and bunch of tier 2s among green,barnes,mobley,suggs.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#402 » by DroseReturnChi » Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:56 am

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yoyoboy wrote:Sounds more like wishful thinking than a realistic scenario. How often does a player forcing his way to a specific team even happen? Rarely, if ever, and there's no indication Mobley wants that one way or another. And Kuminga/Barnes/Suggs are not viewed in the same light that the first three prospects are, so it's hard to see any of Detroit, Houston, or Cleveland reaching. Koby isn't the kind to try to outsmart everyone like Chris Grant was, and considering Koby didn't mind drafting Garland just because Sexton was on the team, I highly doubt Jarrett Allen is going to make him think twice about taking the clear BPA in Mobley.

Happens every year. Halburton to SAC and Ball to Charlotte - both scenarios were reported to happen.

I'd be more concerned if OKC was sitting third but its the Cavs who historically mess things up / dont have the best reputation. Could very well see Mobley and Masai orchestrating only one pick down to TOR


last year's top 3 was set...Antman, Wiseman and Melo in w/e order...and that's exactly what happened.

and Hali should've gone much higher (he was my 4th ranked prospect last yr)...but again, the lower you go in the draft the less of a lock things become.



top 2 was set but not according to exact order and i feel wiseman was not a sure top 3 except GS, meaning GS drafted a bennett type who should have been used to acquire a star at draft night. last yr draft was terrible there was no consensus wolves tried to trade down.
should have been melo/ant/wise but idk why GS didnt draft melo when they promised him.

This yr we have similar where top 2 and 3 are not set and im suspecting green is this yrs wiseman totally overhyped.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#403 » by Roger Murdock » Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:44 pm

It’s funny the last few years everyone on this board said they would take Toppin cuz ‘lol Cleveland’ and everyone said they’d take Culver cause they don’t need Garland

Literally the RGM predictions for Cleveland have been the 2 worst picks possible and instead the Cavs did the right thing both times
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Post#404 » by DCasey91 » Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:03 pm

For me I thought Toppin sucked but that’s my own thoughts. And Wiseman wasn’t a top ten pick either.

Looooooooved Shai and Morant. Obv Luka is the goat pre draft. I liked Lonzo over Lamelo but wrong is wrong.

I did want double O (my fav prospect in 2020) to be with Ball.

RJ was a steal and a half

Mobley on the other-hand is great. Tier 1 and I’ll say he’s the most mould able prospect in this draft.

PVP has a better handle then Cade.... whoops that may rustle a few feathers ah well.

Draft goes by year. We just had two generational types (Luka, Zion) in a very very tiny window. Evens it up on the next one (Chet, Banchero, Victor later)

Though I can’t see best player from this draft in the 10-15 or more range.

This one has been picked apart clean.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#405 » by bkseven » Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:31 pm

DCasey91 wrote:For me I thought Toppin sucked but that’s my own thoughts. And Wiseman wasn’t a top ten pick either.

Looooooooved Shai and Morant. Obv Luka is the goat pre draft. I liked Lonzo over Lamelo but wrong is wrong.

I did want double O (my fav prospect in 2020) to be with Ball.

RJ was a steal and a half

Mobley on the other-hand is great. Tier 1 and I’ll say he’s the most mould able prospect in this draft.

PVP has a better handle then Cade.... whoops that may rustle a few feathers ah well.

Draft goes by year. We just had two generational types (Luka, Zion) in a very very tiny window. Evens it up on the next one (Chet, Banchero, Victor later)

Though I can’t see best player from this draft in the 10-15 or more range.

This one has been picked apart clean.


Wow those are all such impressive takes… on a serious note, if you have any record of saying Shai should be a top three pick pre-draft, then I’ll give you props. Otherwise, nothing impressive from your magic ball.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#406 » by DCasey91 » Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:34 pm

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DCasey91 wrote:For me I thought Toppin sucked but that’s my own thoughts. And Wiseman wasn’t a top ten pick either.

Looooooooved Shai and Morant. Obv Luka is the goat pre draft. I liked Lonzo over Lamelo but wrong is wrong.

I did want double O (my fav prospect in 2020) to be with Ball.

RJ was a steal and a half

Mobley on the other-hand is great. Tier 1 and I’ll say he’s the most mould able prospect in this draft.

PVP has a better handle then Cade.... whoops that may rustle a few feathers ah well.

Draft goes by year. We just had two generational types (Luka, Zion) in a very very tiny window. Evens it up on the next one (Chet, Banchero, Victor later)

Though I can’t see best player from this draft in the 10-15 or more range.

This one has been picked apart clean.


Wow those are all such impressive takes… on a serious note, if you have any record of saying Shai should be a top three pick pre-draft, then I’ll give you props. Otherwise, nothing impressive from your magic ball.


Shai was like the worst kept secret lol.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#407 » by clyde21 » Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:36 pm

Roger Murdock wrote:It’s funny the last few years everyone on this board said they would take Toppin cuz ‘lol Cleveland’ and everyone said they’d take Culver cause they don’t need Garland

Literally the RGM predictions for Cleveland have been the 2 worst picks possible and instead the Cavs did the right thing both times


this is the worst time for this draft board, people come here from the GB who've never watched these players just to throw in their 2 cents because they feel like they have to before the draft. these people will then disappear the next 11 months.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#408 » by Marcus » Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:44 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Roger Murdock wrote:It’s funny the last few years everyone on this board said they would take Toppin cuz ‘lol Cleveland’ and everyone said they’d take Culver cause they don’t need Garland

Literally the RGM predictions for Cleveland have been the 2 worst picks possible and instead the Cavs did the right thing both times


this is the worst time for this draft board, people come here from the GB who've never watched these players just to throw in their 2 cents because they feel like they have to before the draft. these people will then disappear the next 11 months.


you see i stay quiet around this time lol. get all the good content during the actual college season when the regulars are locked in.
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Post#409 » by Roddy B for 3 » Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:27 pm

Roger Murdock wrote:It’s funny the last few years everyone on this board said they would take Toppin cuz ‘lol Cleveland’ and everyone said they’d take Culver cause they don’t need Garland

Literally the RGM predictions for Cleveland have been the 2 worst picks possible and instead the Cavs did the right thing both times


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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#410 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:03 am

Read on Twitter


This makes sense. He will have an easier time using his speed playing at the 5 than at 4 thus why he's a 5 in todays nba
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#411 » by The Moose » Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:56 am

WuTang_OG wrote:
Read on Twitter


This makes sense. He will have an easier time using his speed playing at the 5 than at 4 thus why he's a 5 in todays nba


Having Allen shouldn’t make the Cavs pass on him though. Passing on Mobley because of Allen would be a monumental mistake.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#412 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:19 am

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WuTang_OG wrote:
Read on Twitter


This makes sense. He will have an easier time using his speed playing at the 5 than at 4 thus why he's a 5 in todays nba


Having Allen shouldn’t make the Cavs pass on him though. Passing on Mobley because of Allen would be a monumental mistake.


nobody likes duplicating when it comes down to it... especially if your current center is young which allen is.

CLE would do better with a real engine pg in Suggs. Get rid of Sexton for better wing depth
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Post#413 » by yoyoboy » Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:53 am

If Jarrett Allen makes any GM decide not to take (arguably) the best prospect in the draft, that GM needs to be fired.

I really don't think the Cavs will make that mistake. But if it happens, I'll be the first to start the fire Koby chants.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#414 » by clyde21 » Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:18 am

WuTang_OG wrote:
The Moose wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Read on Twitter


This makes sense. He will have an easier time using his speed playing at the 5 than at 4 thus why he's a 5 in todays nba


Having Allen shouldn’t make the Cavs pass on him though. Passing on Mobley because of Allen would be a monumental mistake.


nobody likes duplicating when it comes down to it... especially if your current center is young which allen is.

CLE would do better with a real engine pg in Suggs. Get rid of Sexton for better wing depth


Cleveland would do better by drafting the best prospect on the board in Mobley...

again, just seems like you're projecting what u want to happen vs what is most likely to happen...we know u want Mobley to drop to 4...but prepare yourself when it most likely doesnt happen.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#415 » by clyde21 » Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:19 am

and if Cleveland doesn't want Mobley @ 3...they will be trading down with a team that will want to take him @ 3 instead.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#416 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:25 am

clyde21 wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
The Moose wrote:
Having Allen shouldn’t make the Cavs pass on him though. Passing on Mobley because of Allen would be a monumental mistake.


nobody likes duplicating when it comes down to it... especially if your current center is young which allen is.

CLE would do better with a real engine pg in Suggs. Get rid of Sexton for better wing depth


Cleveland would do better by drafting the best prospect on the board in Mobley...

again, just seems like you're projecting what u want to happen vs what is most likely to happen...we know u want Mobley to drop to 4...but prepare yourself when it most likely doesnt happen.


50/50 scenario imo. Cle wild card here and likely doesnt want to select mobley. They'll either draft Suggs or move back to get him
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#417 » by clyde21 » Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:28 am

WuTang_OG wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
nobody likes duplicating when it comes down to it... especially if your current center is young which allen is.

CLE would do better with a real engine pg in Suggs. Get rid of Sexton for better wing depth


Cleveland would do better by drafting the best prospect on the board in Mobley...

again, just seems like you're projecting what u want to happen vs what is most likely to happen...we know u want Mobley to drop to 4...but prepare yourself when it most likely doesnt happen.


50/50 scenario imo. Cle wild card here and likely doesnt want to select mobley. They'll either draft Suggs or move back to get him


not 50/50 at all, Mobley is the better prospect, fills a need for Cleveland, and they already have Garland/Sexton/Okoro at guard...even if they trade Sexton, it's to slide Okoro to the 2 next to Garland most likely

it ain't impossible...but seems like ur just trying to speak it into existence or something lol

and again...if Cleveland doesn't want Mobley @ 3...there will be a line a suitors waiting to trade up...they would entertain that as well and someone else might move up to take Mobley at 3.

90% chance really that Mobes is a top 3 pick, to either Houston, Cavs, or someone that trades up for him.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#418 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:57 am

clyde21 wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Cleveland would do better by drafting the best prospect on the board in Mobley...

again, just seems like you're projecting what u want to happen vs what is most likely to happen...we know u want Mobley to drop to 4...but prepare yourself when it most likely doesnt happen.


50/50 scenario imo. Cle wild card here and likely doesnt want to select mobley. They'll either draft Suggs or move back to get him


not 50/50 at all, Mobley is the better prospect, fills a need for Cleveland, and they already have Garland/Sexton/Okoro at guard...even if they trade Sexton, it's to slide Okoro to the 2 next to Garland most likely

it ain't impossible...but seems like ur just trying to speak it into existence or something lol

and again...if Cleveland doesn't want Mobley @ 3...there will be a line a suitors waiting to trade up...they would entertain that as well and someone else might move up to take Mobley at 3.

90% chance really that Mobes is a top 3 pick, to either Houston, Cavs, or someone that trades up for him.


Likely is 50/50 that Cavs take him as their guy. Going to re-up Allen, not really a fit there with Mobley. They'll go after Suggs or do a swap with ORL/TOR to move back.

Teams arent duplicating at the top end of the draft especially when they have a stud center ready to be re-upped (which reports show they are).

Also the Sexton rumours, add to my argument it will be Suggs.

This is is moreso what will happen no bias here.. it just makes too much sense. They arent rolling Allen and Mobley together. They are both 5's. This is a stacked draft. Suggs, Barnes, all options and better fits here.

Stop listening to the media lol
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Post#419 » by The Moose » Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:14 am

WuTang_OG wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
50/50 scenario imo. Cle wild card here and likely doesnt want to select mobley. They'll either draft Suggs or move back to get him


not 50/50 at all, Mobley is the better prospect, fills a need for Cleveland, and they already have Garland/Sexton/Okoro at guard...even if they trade Sexton, it's to slide Okoro to the 2 next to Garland most likely

it ain't impossible...but seems like ur just trying to speak it into existence or something lol

and again...if Cleveland doesn't want Mobley @ 3...there will be a line a suitors waiting to trade up...they would entertain that as well and someone else might move up to take Mobley at 3.

90% chance really that Mobes is a top 3 pick, to either Houston, Cavs, or someone that trades up for him.


Likely is 50/50 that Cavs take him as their guy. Going to re-up Allen, not really a fit there with Mobley. They'll go after Suggs or do a swap with ORL/TOR to move back.

Teams arent duplicating at the top end of the draft especially when they have a stud center ready to be re-upped (which reports show they are).

Also the Sexton rumours, add to my argument it will be Suggs.

This is is moreso what will happen no bias here.. it just makes too much sense. They arent rolling Allen and Mobley together. They are both 5's. This is a stacked draft. Suggs, Barnes, all options and better fits here.

Stop listening to the media lol


survey some cavs fans on whether it makes too much sense to pass on Mobley because of Allen, I think you'll get a different answer. Actually there is a few of them in the last few posts in this thread
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#420 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:22 am

The Moose wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
not 50/50 at all, Mobley is the better prospect, fills a need for Cleveland, and they already have Garland/Sexton/Okoro at guard...even if they trade Sexton, it's to slide Okoro to the 2 next to Garland most likely

it ain't impossible...but seems like ur just trying to speak it into existence or something lol

and again...if Cleveland doesn't want Mobley @ 3...there will be a line a suitors waiting to trade up...they would entertain that as well and someone else might move up to take Mobley at 3.

90% chance really that Mobes is a top 3 pick, to either Houston, Cavs, or someone that trades up for him.


Likely is 50/50 that Cavs take him as their guy. Going to re-up Allen, not really a fit there with Mobley. They'll go after Suggs or do a swap with ORL/TOR to move back.

Teams arent duplicating at the top end of the draft especially when they have a stud center ready to be re-upped (which reports show they are).

Also the Sexton rumours, add to my argument it will be Suggs.

This is is moreso what will happen no bias here.. it just makes too much sense. They arent rolling Allen and Mobley together. They are both 5's. This is a stacked draft. Suggs, Barnes, all options and better fits here.

Stop listening to the media lol


survey some cavs fans on whether it makes too much sense to pass on Mobley because of Allen, I think you'll get a different answer. Actually there is a few of them in the last few posts in this thread


As I've said, if they take Mobley it's not 90%. It's 50/50 based on their current situation and reasons I've brought forth. They dont want to take him. Their home run pick was Green but it seems hes going to HOU. My guess is they do a swap with Tor/ORL and get either Suggs or Barnes who are better fits.

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