Andrew Wiggins is not a lock at #1?

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Re: Andrew Wiggins is not a lock at #1? 

Post#461 » by Ruzious » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:51 pm

When the smoke clears, I think Wiggins is showing enough to be picked over Embiid at number 1. I probably wouldn't have said that a few weeks ago. He's getting to the line, and he's finally setting up his teammates. Wow, is he good in transition, and his shot looks pure. He's the real deal - just needs more consistency.
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Re: Andrew Wiggins is not a lock at #1? 

Post#462 » by DoD_Magyar » Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:35 pm

Wiggins far better than Parker and still have a chance to be numer 1 overall pick over Embiid if he can shine in march.

First of all, he is better all-around player than Parker. Slightly better passer, way more better at the defensive end. His 3 point thread is solid. Parker makes 1.4 three point fg per game, Wiggins makes 1.2

He is better transition player, more atlethic, and as a result, better nba prospect at all.

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what we can see in the video, he can make wide open shoots, can create his own shot (step back etc.), can drive to basket, willing to pass, can make free throws.

imo, wiggins is still best long-term prospect.
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Re: Andrew Wiggins is not a lock at #1? 

Post#463 » by Big_C_KU » Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:30 pm

The last game and a half Wiggins seemed to have figured out that if he doesn't try to avoid the contact on his drives that he'll go to the line a lot and sometimes the lane will just open up and you'll get an open lane to the basket. The couple pull-up jumpers are huge for him. It's a shot all the greats have in their arsenal. He's been much more consistent on his 3-point shot since Big 12 play began showing much more consistency on his form.
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Re: Andrew Wiggins is not a lock at #1? 

Post#464 » by Tave » Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:17 pm

I like how he looks to feed his post players as soon as they have position. There is no hesitation, no wasted dribbling at the top to show off his fancy moves while the defense locks in--he just dumps the ball as soon as it's there, and the passes are usually right on point, setting up his teammate so that they can enter their move in one motion as they receive the ball.

Why is it always the SFs who get this? Why is it so hard for PGs and SGs to make quick entry passes and manage the shot-clock effectively? Drives me nuts.
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Re: Andrew Wiggins is not a lock at #1? 

Post#465 » by DoD_Magyar » Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:54 am

Wiggins with the huge game again!

27 points, 7 rebound, 4-6 3 pt shooting.

Kid gonna be one of the best players in the league. period.

update: he has 29 now which is his career high so far.

Embiid also have a good night with 14/11
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Re: Andrew Wiggins is not a lock at #1? 

Post#466 » by Big_C_KU » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:10 am

Since halftime of the Baylor game the light bulb seems to have gone on for him. Seems to have finally realized that he can get whatever he wants to.
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Re: Andrew Wiggins is not a lock at #1? 

Post#467 » by bigboi » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:11 am

sikma42 wrote:
bigboi wrote:It's simple as this. Wiggins is dominant when teams play man to man, but when he is facing zone he sucks. That's why his stats aren't higher, teams have been playing a lot of zone on Kansas

I really think we throw around the word dominant a little too much.


Like I said before Wiggins is dominant when facing man to man. If he has an elite performance in the tourney, I could see him being picked #1. Top 2 are locks, Embiid and Wiggins.
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Re: Andrew Wiggins is not a lock at #1? 

Post#468 » by Brauer » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:15 am

bigboi wrote:
sikma42 wrote:
bigboi wrote:It's simple as this. Wiggins is dominant when teams play man to man, but when he is facing zone he sucks. That's why his stats aren't higher, teams have been playing a lot of zone on Kansas

I really think we throw around the word dominant a little too much.


Like I said before Wiggins is dominant when facing man to man. If he has an elite performance in the tourney, I could see him being picked #1. Top 2 are locks, Embiid and Wiggins.

Were they playing man in the ISU game?
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Re: Andrew Wiggins is not a lock at #1? 

Post#469 » by DoD_Magyar » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:15 am

Finished the game with 29 points 7 rebound and 10-16 shooting performance. Back to back 27+ pts game

his last 2 game stats : 28.0 pts, 6.0 rib, 2.5 ast and % 62 fg (%60 3pts as well)

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Re: Andrew Wiggins is not a lock at #1? 

Post#470 » by The Skyhook » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:16 am

Wiggins is starting to reclaim that number 1 spot in the draft. I'm loving everything I've seen from him these past few games. He is playing with confidence and he looks comfortable out there. All season long people were questioning his assertiveness and but these past few games he has been anything but passive. His jump shot has also impressed me as it looks better with every game.

Embiid looked a step slow on defense tonight. Maybe it was that bump he took to the knee in the second half of the Baylor game but he still looked good on offense. If these guys continue to play at this level then I think they will both go 1 and 2 with Wiggins edging out Embiid. I'm finally buying into all the hype surrounding Wiggins.
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Re: Andrew Wiggins is not a lock at #1? 

Post#471 » by snoopdogg88 » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:16 am

been saying all along, the Embiid hype will die down and Wiggins will reclaim this draft.

He is the "next one" this is his world, we're all just living in it
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Re: Andrew Wiggins is not a lock at #1? 

Post#472 » by Big_C_KU » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:39 am

snoopdogg88 wrote:been saying all along, the Embiid hype will die down and Wiggins will reclaim this draft.

He is the "next one" this is his world, we're all just living in it


Embiid is deserving of the hype he's getting. He had to play a 6-7 guy who likes to shoot 3s and drive to the basket. Tough matchup for any 7 footer. Still had a very productive night with 14 pts and 11 reb. In the NBA he won't be expected to guard a 3-point shooter and the coaches live with the other teams C shooting 3s.

Wiggins is phenomenal when he's aggressive. They are definitely 1-2 IMO because of production and potential.

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Re: Andrew Wiggins is not a lock at #1? 

Post#473 » by Flight33 » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:51 am

When Wiggins is being aggressive he is almost unstoppable.
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Re: Andrew Wiggins is not a lock at #1? 

Post#474 » by MrBigShot » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:00 am

His feel for the game and jumper are actually better than I originally thought. Form isn't bad at all, and he looks comfortable from mid range for the most part. More importantly though, he looks to have a very good understanding of where to be and when, and his decision making is solid.
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Re: Andrew Wiggins is not a lock at #1? 

Post#475 » by B-Ball Freak » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:03 am

He wants that number spot back
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Re: Andrew Wiggins is not a lock at #1? 

Post#476 » by noobcake » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:06 am

Wiggins is on a hot streak.

You have to look at his stats in context of his demonstrated skill set. Hitting shots way above his season average needs to be discounted aka shots he has no business hitting, but showing off aggressiveness not demonstrated at start of the season should be commended. His offensive repertoire has remained the same since the start of the season.
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Re: Andrew Wiggins is not a lock at #1? 

Post#477 » by CBB_Fan » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:11 am

Unless Exum makes a big move, I think Wiggins and Embiid are going #1 and #2 this draft. Parker still has a few teams that would pick him #1, but I think other than the Jazz and Celtics every other team has him at #3.
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Re: Andrew Wiggins is not a lock at #1? 

Post#478 » by doordoor123 » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:13 am

Wiggins seems to be rising while Parker and Randle are dropping. It's interesting how Randle and Parker were so dominant early on. Now it looks like Wiggins is the best of all three (AND Emiid). Wiggins might be the first pick after all if he keeps up this pace.
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Re: Andrew Wiggins is not a lock at #1? 

Post#479 » by noobcake » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:20 am

doordoor123 wrote:Wiggins seems to be rising while Parker and Randle are dropping. It's interesting how Randle and Parker were so dominant early on. Now it looks like Wiggins is the best of all three (AND Emiid). Wiggins might be the first pick after all if he keeps up this pace.


That is merely a limited perception.

Parker: 18.8/8.1/1.3 on 46.5/38.2/76.3
Wiggins: 15.8/6.0/1.6 on 45.0/33.8/77.6
Randle: 16.1/10.2/1.7 on 52.8/18.2/72.9
Embiid: Mainly an eye test prospect
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Re: Andrew Wiggins is not a lock at #1? 

Post#480 » by DirtyDez » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:34 am

noobcake wrote:
doordoor123 wrote:Wiggins seems to be rising while Parker and Randle are dropping. It's interesting how Randle and Parker were so dominant early on. Now it looks like Wiggins is the best of all three (AND Emiid). Wiggins might be the first pick after all if he keeps up this pace.


That is merely a limited perception.

Parker: 18.8/8.1/1.3 on 46.5/38.2/76.3
Wiggins: 15.8/6.0/1.6 on 45.0/33.8/77.6
Randle: 16.1/10.2/1.7 on 52.8/18.2/72.9
Embiid: Mainly an eye test prospect


Parker is balling and carrying Duke.
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