2022 NBA Draft Part II

[Sactowndog]

Measurement winners:
Mark Williams 7'2, 7'6 1/2'' wingspan, 9'9 standing reach (same as Rudy Gobert)
Jalen Williams 6'5 3/4'', 7'2 1/4'' wingspan, 8'9 1/2'' Standing Reach
Patrick Baldwin 6'10 1/4'', 7'1 3/4'' wingspan, 9'2 1/2'' standing reach
Walker Kessler 7'1, 7'4 1/4'' wingspan, 9'5 standing reach
Dominick Barlow 6'9 3/4'', 7'3 wingspan, 9'0 1/2'' standing reach
Iverson Molinar 6'3 1/4'', 6'8 wingspan, 8'5 standing reach
MarJon Beauchamp 6'6 1/2'', 7'0 3/4'' wingspan, 8'10 standing reach
Dalen Terry 6'7 1/4'', 7'0 3/4'' wingspan, 8'10 standing reach
Dyson Daniels 6'7 1/2'', 6'10 1/2'' wingspan, 8'9 standing reach

Surprised you left Eason off this list?

[CptCrunch]

And on a side note, are there are foreign studs (ignoring stats) with heavy credentials this year?

Like Luka with EuroLeague MVP, Sengun with Turkish League MVP

[SelfishPlayer]

Mathurin is just a bit boring. Decent at everything, excellent at nothing.

Certainly a good prospect, but he is a a rookie contract away from being a NBA prospect. It's difficult to fantasize about his potential when he is just a cookie-cutter-decent at every shooting guard. He can develop into a great player, but that is development.

No one can really accurately predict development given public domain information. Sure if a team has insider info on his home life, lifestyle habits (video gaming like Ayton, hoeing like Young Socialite, clubbing like Harden) and work ethics, they can potentially make a better read. We as online observers cannot make such determinations.

Impossible for a guy that has dunked on as many people as he has to be considered boring.

Is he an excellent hidden slashing talent or something? We are talking about excitement with respect to his skill set, skillset combination, not how exciting a player is in-game.

Shooting isn't exciting for you?

[CptCrunch]

Impossible for a guy that has dunked on as many people as he has to be considered boring.

Is he an excellent hidden slashing talent or something? We are talking about excitement with respect to his skill set, skillset combination, not how exciting a player is in-game.

Shooting isn't exciting for you?

Synergy from mid-March during the tournament.





Are you telling me he is supposed to a great shooter or something? We don't need synergy for this. 45.6/38.3/78.9 splits are just the NBA SG standard, a bit below average if we are looking for great shooting potential.

[clyde21]

Impossible for a guy that has dunked on as many people as he has to be considered boring.

Is he an excellent hidden slashing talent or something? We are talking about excitement with respect to his skill set, skillset combination, not how exciting a player is in-game.

Shooting isn't exciting for you?

I mean, he's a pretty decent shooter but nothing special or extraordinary there.

[SelfishPlayer]

Is he an excellent hidden slashing talent or something? We are talking about excitement with respect to his skill set, skillset combination, not how exciting a player is in-game.

Shooting isn't exciting for you?

Synergy from mid-March during the tournament.





Are you telling me he is supposed to a great shooter or something? We don't need synergy for this. 45.6/38.3/78.9 splits are just the NBA SG standard, a bit below average if we are looking for great shooting potential.

He played two entire years of college basketball, why show me anything from mid-march?

[CptCrunch]

Shooting isn't exciting for you?

Synergy from mid-March during the tournament.





Are you telling me he is supposed to a great shooter or something? We don't need synergy for this. 45.6/38.3/78.9 splits are just the NBA SG standard, a bit below average if we are looking for great shooting potential.

He played two entire years of college basketball, why show me anything from mid-march?

Because that is the stats right before March Madness, his most recent season. Show me where the exciting shooting is. The only games missing are Arizona vs Wright State, TCU and Houston.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Mark Williams is officially my favorite prospect in this draft along with Jabari Smith.

[SelfishPlayer]

Dominick Barlow incredible measurements for a soon to be 19 year old small forward. He's different than Leonard Miller in that he went pro right after his senior year while Miller attended prep school. This is absolutely a throwback high school era draft. You have young guys that never played college ball and former top prospects that have and failed like Patrick Baldwin Jr. Do you still value him according to his pre college projections?

[zimpy27]

I think Chet's playmaking could unlock a high ceiling.

Do you think he could have the offense flow through him? A bit like Jokic?

[Duke4life831]

The measurements on Williams are great and I'd be looking at him with a top 10 pick, but I think his mobility is getting overhyped here. He's in the same mobility bracket as Gobert, McGee and DeAndre are/were certainly more mobile than in their younger years.

I mean it all depends. I think he is more mobile than a younger Gobert. But you're really talking about 3 different levels of mobility there with Gobert, Ayton, and McGee. I think Mark's mobility (not explosiveness) is similar to Ayton. But Ayton never had the timing and defensive awareness that Mark has.

[Duke4life831]

I know my bias is showing, but Mark has to be one of the better defensive big man prospects we've seen in sometime. Freakish length, high level timing and discipline. AD, Mobley, and Oden are the other guys that come to mind.

[eminence]

The measurements on Williams are great and I'd be looking at him with a top 10 pick, but I think his mobility is getting overhyped here. He's in the same mobility bracket as Gobert, McGee and DeAndre are/were certainly more mobile than in their younger years.

I mean it all depends. I think he is more mobile than a younger Gobert. But you're really talking about 3 different levels of mobility there with Gobert, Ayton, and McGee. I think Mark's mobility (not explosiveness) is similar to Ayton. But Ayton never had the timing and defensive awareness that Mark has.

This is fair enough, but I meant DeAndre Jordan.

[SelfishPlayer]

18 year old Dominick Barlow looks like he may be the more naturally talented version of what people want Eason to be, a top flight All Star NBA small forward.

[CptCrunch]

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Looks like Jake LaRavia got a promise. A team and the player mutually picked each other. His big board position is in the 30-40 range.

[CptCrunch]

And does anyone know if they are doing more testing tomorrow? No stats today for vertical/height = measurement skipped?

[jman3134]

Measurement winners:
Mark Williams 7'2, 7'6 1/2'' wingspan, 9'9 standing reach (same as Rudy Gobert)
Jalen Williams 6'5 3/4'', 7'2 1/4'' wingspan, 8'9 1/2'' Standing Reach
Patrick Baldwin 6'10 1/4'', 7'1 3/4'' wingspan, 9'2 1/2'' standing reach
Walker Kessler 7'1, 7'4 1/4'' wingspan, 9'5 standing reach
Dominick Barlow 6'9 3/4'', 7'3 wingspan, 9'0 1/2'' standing reach
Iverson Molinar 6'3 1/4'', 6'8 wingspan, 8'5 standing reach
MarJon Beauchamp 6'6 1/2'', 7'0 3/4'' wingspan, 8'10 standing reach
Dalen Terry 6'7 1/4'', 7'0 3/4'' wingspan, 8'10 standing reach
Dyson Daniels 6'7 1/2'', 6'10 1/2'' wingspan, 8'9 standing reach

Surprised you left Eason off this list?

Tari Eason 6'8, 7'2 wingspan, 8'11 1/2'' standing reach

Nothing intentional. On the raw numbers side, Eason belongs. I tended to highlight guys I think will move up from these measurements, but it wasn't an exhaustive list.

[clyde21]

And does anyone know if they are doing more testing tomorrow? No stats today for vertical/height = measurement skipped?

yes

[clyde21]

Measurement winners:
Mark Williams 7'2, 7'6 1/2'' wingspan, 9'9 standing reach (same as Rudy Gobert)
Jalen Williams 6'5 3/4'', 7'2 1/4'' wingspan, 8'9 1/2'' Standing Reach
Patrick Baldwin 6'10 1/4'', 7'1 3/4'' wingspan, 9'2 1/2'' standing reach
Walker Kessler 7'1, 7'4 1/4'' wingspan, 9'5 standing reach
Dominick Barlow 6'9 3/4'', 7'3 wingspan, 9'0 1/2'' standing reach
Iverson Molinar 6'3 1/4'', 6'8 wingspan, 8'5 standing reach
MarJon Beauchamp 6'6 1/2'', 7'0 3/4'' wingspan, 8'10 standing reach
Dalen Terry 6'7 1/4'', 7'0 3/4'' wingspan, 8'10 standing reach
Dyson Daniels 6'7 1/2'', 6'10 1/2'' wingspan, 8'9 standing reach

Surprised you left Eason off this list?

Tari Eason 6'8, 7'2 wingspan, 8'11 1/2'' standing reach

Nothing intentional. On the raw numbers side, Eason belongs. I tended to highlight guys I think will move up from these measurements, but it wasn't an exhaustive list.

what was more impressive about Baldwin?

and Eason posted some of the largest hands we've seen for non Centers, he has to be on the list.

[SelfishPlayer]

Dominick Barlow vs Shaedon Sharpe. They both turn 19 years of age this month. How have they spent life after graduating high school? One played pro ball and the other practiced with a college team. One has excellent measurables for a small forward and the other has good size for a SG, but is average size overall for an NBA player. Barlow looks like the 18 year old prospect that people should be talking about as a lottery pick lock. Barlow being a late bloomer from a small town gives him a good excuse for me as to why he is a mystery. Sharpe has played FIBA basketball for Team Canada, he's not actually a mystery he just never stood out enough to warrant being in lottery conversation this early.

The Spurs worked Barlow out
https://www.poundingtherock.com/2022/5/10/23066311/report-the-spurs-have-conducted-a-pre-draft-workout-with-dominick-barlow

The 18-year-old averaged 14.8 points and 5.9 rebounds on .530/.339/.764 shooting splits across 25 games for Team Overtime.

This video breaks down Dominick's three point improvement during his pro season and the amount of practice shots he put up.

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