Trae Young

[TheGreenArrow]

He will be a knick. Him and kp would be unbelievable in the P&R.

[yoyoboy]

He will be a knick. Him and kp would be unbelievable in the P&R.

The Knicks aren't bad enough to draft him. I can't see Young not going top 4. They're currently 5 games behind 4th worst Memphis over halfway through the season. And after a 7-6 start with Conley, the Grizzlies have won 6 games in their last 28.

So if NY goes 12-26 in their final 38 games (under 26 win pace after currently being on track for 36 wins) and Memphis goes 19-22 (38 win pace after currently being on track for 26 wins, and playing at 17-18 win pace without Conley), then New York would finish just below them. But that's not likely.

And in general at least 5 teams will finish with less than 30 wins just looking at current projections. Also the last 2 years 5 teams finished below 30; the year before that, 6 teams did; each of the two years before that 8 teams did. So realistically the Knicks would have to go about 8-30 in their last 38 games to get a top 4 pick.

Maybe the lotto gods will favor NY though.

[clyde21]

this kid is perfect with the Phoenix they will love him more than booker simply because of his love for Steve Nash.

the future is bright for them if they get young

young
booker
jackson
bender
chriss

Would be fun to watch, that's for sure, but I almost feel like Doncic is a better pairing next to Booker.

[TheGreenArrow]

He will be a knick. Him and kp would be unbelievable in the P&R.

The Knicks aren't bad enough to draft him. I can't see Young not going top 4. They're currently 5 games behind 4th worst Memphis over halfway through the season. And after a 7-6 start with Conley, the Grizzlies have won 6 games in their last 28.

So if NY goes 12-26 in their final 38 games (under 26 win pace after currently being on track for 36 wins) and Memphis goes 19-22 (38 win pace after currently being on track for 26 wins, and playing at 17-18 win pace without Conley), then New York would finish just below them. But that's not likely.

And in general at least 5 teams will finish with less than 30 wins just looking at current projections. Also the last 2 years 5 teams finished below 30; the year before that, 6 teams did; each of the two years before that 8 teams did. So realistically the Knicks would have to go about 8-30 in their last 38 games to get a top 4 pick.

Maybe the lotto gods will favor NY though.

You dont watch the knicks every game like i do.

We are bad dont let our fluke start fool you.

You will see soon enough.

[yoyoboy]

He will be a knick. Him and kp would be unbelievable in the P&R.

The Knicks aren't bad enough to draft him. I can't see Young not going top 4. They're currently 5 games behind 4th worst Memphis over halfway through the season. And after a 7-6 start with Conley, the Grizzlies have won 6 games in their last 28.

So if NY goes 12-26 in their final 38 games (under 26 win pace after currently being on track for 36 wins) and Memphis goes 19-22 (38 win pace after currently being on track for 26 wins, and playing at 17-18 win pace without Conley), then New York would finish just below them. But that's not likely.

And in general at least 5 teams will finish with less than 30 wins just looking at current projections. Also the last 2 years 5 teams finished below 30; the year before that, 6 teams did; each of the two years before that 8 teams did. So realistically the Knicks would have to go about 8-30 in their last 38 games to get a top 4 pick.

Maybe the lotto gods will favor NY though.

You dont watch the knicks every game like i do.

We are bad dont let our fluke start fool you.

You will see soon enough.

5.5 games behind now. If Memphis loses to the Ingram/Lonzo-less lakers, it'll be 6 games.

[TheGreenArrow]

The Knicks aren't bad enough to draft him. I can't see Young not going top 4. They're currently 5 games behind 4th worst Memphis over halfway through the season. And after a 7-6 start with Conley, the Grizzlies have won 6 games in their last 28.

So if NY goes 12-26 in their final 38 games (under 26 win pace after currently being on track for 36 wins) and Memphis goes 19-22 (38 win pace after currently being on track for 26 wins, and playing at 17-18 win pace without Conley), then New York would finish just below them. But that's not likely.

And in general at least 5 teams will finish with less than 30 wins just looking at current projections. Also the last 2 years 5 teams finished below 30; the year before that, 6 teams did; each of the two years before that 8 teams did. So realistically the Knicks would have to go about 8-30 in their last 38 games to get a top 4 pick.

Maybe the lotto gods will favor NY though.

You dont watch the knicks every game like i do.

We are bad dont let our fluke start fool you.

You will see soon enough.

5.5 games behind now. If Memphis loses to the Ingram/Lonzo-less lakers, it'll be 6 games.

38 games left to play my man. Plenty of time.

[TheGreenArrow]

The Knicks aren't bad enough to draft him. I can't see Young not going top 4. They're currently 5 games behind 4th worst Memphis over halfway through the season. And after a 7-6 start with Conley, the Grizzlies have won 6 games in their last 28.

So if NY goes 12-26 in their final 38 games (under 26 win pace after currently being on track for 36 wins) and Memphis goes 19-22 (38 win pace after currently being on track for 26 wins, and playing at 17-18 win pace without Conley), then New York would finish just below them. But that's not likely.

And in general at least 5 teams will finish with less than 30 wins just looking at current projections. Also the last 2 years 5 teams finished below 30; the year before that, 6 teams did; each of the two years before that 8 teams did. So realistically the Knicks would have to go about 8-30 in their last 38 games to get a top 4 pick.

Maybe the lotto gods will favor NY though.

You dont watch the knicks every game like i do.

We are bad dont let our fluke start fool you.

You will see soon enough.

5.5 games behind now. If Memphis loses to the Ingram/Lonzo-less lakers, it'll be 6 games.

Now its back to 4.5 and we play them wensday.

[clyde21]

If Orlando is picking #1 overall, do they consider Young?

[Mulhollanddrive]

Doesn't seem like their type if you consider the drafting history at Milwaukee and Orlando (length / athletic / two-way upside).

[916fan]

If Orlando is picking #1 overall, do they consider Young?

They'd consider him, but I don't think they'd take him. Depends on how high they have Ayton and Doncic. I think they desperately need a PG, but I don't have Young higher than those guys.

Doesn't seem like their type if you consider the drafting history at Milwaukee and Orlando (length / athletic / two-way upside).

Orlando has had extremely questionable decision making. None of the moves they make make much sense to me. I don't understand why they drafted Isaac when they already have Gordon patrolling the 4 on defense? Maybe they can play together at SF-PF, but I think both are best suited at PF long-term. The 2017 draft would've been a perfect opportunity for them to draft a PG. It was a major position of need, and they could've made a legitimate run at the playoffs this year.
Orlando needs to figure out their stuff. Are they still trying to rebuild? Or are they trying to be contenders? They're confused.

[Shady Franchise]

If Orlando is picking #1 overall, do they consider Young?

They'd consider him, but I don't think they'd take him. Depends on how high they have Ayton and Doncic. I think they desperately need a PG, but I don't have Young higher than those guys.

Doesn't seem like their type if you consider the drafting history at Milwaukee and Orlando (length / athletic / two-way upside).

Orlando has had extremely questionable decision making. None of the moves they make make much sense to me. I don't understand why they drafted Isaac when they already have Gordon patrolling the 4 on defense? Maybe they can play together at SF-PF, but I think both are best suited at PF long-term. The 2017 draft would've been a perfect opportunity for them to draft a PG. It was a major position of need, and they could've made a legitimate run at the playoffs this year.
Orlando needs to figure out their stuff. Are they still trying to rebuild? Or are they trying to be contenders? They're confused.

I think they've "figured out their stuff", and that "stuff" is a top 2 pick. Nothing wrong with the Isaac pick, especially since he can play some center once he gains some weight. With the NBA going away from the traditional center, he can play bits there, and the rest at SF. To say you don't understand the pick is fine, as he's still developing and none of us know what his ultimate role will be. Tatum was their guy and he got drafted. Had they gone with DSJ, they may be fighting for a playoff spot right now, but also into treadmill territory. DSJ has had a pretty bad season, minus some eye opening stat lines. Us Magic fans are actually pretty excited to see what we have in Isaac and Iwundu, from their limited playing time this season. Things are starting to fall into place for a proper tank and hopefully they draft their next star. They just need to ship out Fournier, Mario, Vuc, and or Payton to get pieces that compliment their tank/future. They need to take their time, and not rush to try to make the playoffs anymore. Remember this is a new management, so they can't really be held accountable for the past several head scratching years.

[Shady Franchise]

If Orlando is picking #1 overall, do they consider Young?

I think they do consider him. Many on our board think he can be the missing link. We still need a competent SF, but a scoring/passing PG of the likes of Young is exactly what the team needs! Besides, would you blame them if they passed over Porter Jr and his uncertainties?

[Shady Franchise]

considering top 5 would go to the hawks, celtics, magic, grizzlies and kings, who would pick him? would hawks give up on schroder for him, or magic would give up on payton? if all these teams go with the fit, he might fall out of top 5. i think magic will pick him up if he is available and let payton go or trade him this summer or next summer.

the Magic are looking to trade Payton, so......if the shoe fits!

[VCfor3]

considering top 5 would go to the hawks, celtics, magic, grizzlies and kings, who would pick him? would hawks give up on schroder for him, or magic would give up on payton? if all these teams go with the fit, he might fall out of top 5. i think magic will pick him up if he is available and let payton go or trade him this summer or next summer.

the Magic are looking to trade Payton, so......if the shoe fits!

I could see the grizzlies grabbing him too though they need to take the best player available. If that's him, then take him.

[doordoor123]

If anyone has the chance to take Young they should take him. The Magic should take him and either experiment with Payton coming off the bench (where I think he can be more effective) or trade him. The Hawks should take him, but will probably be hesitant to start him over Schroder. I think in that scenario they trade Schroder since he has too big of an ego to be a back up anymore. Sacramento should probably stick with the players they have at that position, but Vivek **** loves that Curry dick and moans at the thought of having someone that is compared to Curry so I could see them taking him. Memphis should take him and try to rebuild — move on from Conley, but if Conley doesn’t want to leave (which is seemingly the case) then they have an issue, Dallas shouldn’t draft him, the 76ers shouldn’t draft him, if LeBron and Isaiah Thomas leaves the Cavs should take him and the Suns should 100% try to trade up for him (although they don’t have the pieces).

[VCfor3]

If anyone has the chance to take Young they should take him. The Magic should take him and either experiment with Payton coming off the bench (where I think he can be more effective) or trade him. The Hawks should take him, but will probably be hesitant to start him over Schroder. I think in that scenario they trade Schroder since he has too big of an ego to be a back up anymore. Sacramento should probably stick with the players they have at that position, but Vivek **** loves that Curry dick and moans at the thought of having someone that is compared to Curry so I could see them taking him. Memphis should take him and try to rebuild — move on from Conley, but if Conley doesn’t want to leave (which is seemingly the case) then they have an issue, Dallas shouldn’t draft him, the 76ers shouldn’t draft him, if LeBron and Isaiah Thomas leaves the Cavs should take him and the Suns should 100% try to trade up for him (although they don’t have the pieces).

The Grizzlies have been trying to use Conley as a SG and get him off the ball. He would pair ok with Young and could help mentor him. Defense may be meh as Conley keeps getting older and Young develops what I think will at best be average defensive capabilities.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Only seeing the box score but he has 8 turnovers in the first half are the defense doing anything different?

[916fan]

If Orlando is picking #1 overall, do they consider Young?

They'd consider him, but I don't think they'd take him. Depends on how high they have Ayton and Doncic. I think they desperately need a PG, but I don't have Young higher than those guys.

Doesn't seem like their type if you consider the drafting history at Milwaukee and Orlando (length / athletic / two-way upside).

Orlando has had extremely questionable decision making. None of the moves they make make much sense to me. I don't understand why they drafted Isaac when they already have Gordon patrolling the 4 on defense? Maybe they can play together at SF-PF, but I think both are best suited at PF long-term. The 2017 draft would've been a perfect opportunity for them to draft a PG. It was a major position of need, and they could've made a legitimate run at the playoffs this year.
Orlando needs to figure out their stuff. Are they still trying to rebuild? Or are they trying to be contenders? They're confused.

I think they've "figured out their stuff", and that "stuff" is a top 2 pick. Nothing wrong with the Isaac pick, especially since he can play some center once he gains some weight. With the NBA going away from the traditional center, he can play bits there, and the rest at SF. To say you don't understand the pick is fine, as he's still developing and none of us know what his ultimate role will be. Tatum was their guy and he got drafted. Had they gone with DSJ, they may be fighting for a playoff spot right now, but also into treadmill territory. DSJ has had a pretty bad season, minus some eye opening stat lines. Us Magic fans are actually pretty excited to see what we have in Isaac and Iwundu, from their limited playing time this season. Things are starting to fall into place for a proper tank and hopefully they draft their next star. They just need to ship out Fournier, Mario, Vuc, and or Payton to get pieces that compliment their tank/future. They need to take their time, and not rush to try to make the playoffs anymore. Remember this is a new management, so they can't really be held accountable for the past several head scratching years.

I got a lot of **** for questioning their offseason, but I was right. Orlando didn't want to go full-on rebuild, but at the same time, they didn't want to fully commit to contending. Now, things are breaking down, and a rebuild is looking like a real possibility. I still think Orlando was 1 PG away from being a 5th, maybe 4th seed in the East.

Time to see Orlando ship off Payton, Vucevic, and maybe Fournier. I don't think Vuc has high value right now, especially after his surgery. You guys traded him 2 years too late if you wanted maximum value. Payton is still a non-shooting PG looking to get paid.. not many teams will buy high on him. Fournier could easily fetch back a mid-round pick. Question is, would Orlando rather keep 25yearold Fournier or a mid first rounder? What about Biyombo's contract? Orlando are big sellers, but I don't know if they'll be content with the market.

If Orlando wants to go full-on rebuild, they're better off picking BPA.

[doordoor123]

Only seeing the box score but he has 8 turnovers in the first half are the defense doing anything different?

Really good team defense from Kansas State. In the NBA this wouldn’t be an issue, but the issue is that they aren’t allowing transition fast break passes and none of the guys on offense are moving, trying to get open. Trae is trying to make passes, but his own guys aren’t trying to get open for them and Kansas State is communicating really well on defense.

On the bright side it made Young play differently. He started to play off-ball.

I really think it was the coaching. Oklahoma wasn’t prepared and Kansas City knew all of their plays. Some of those guys move so well on defense too. There might be a prospect among them.

[MalonesElbows]

Young is now around 5 turnovers a game. His play style is fun, but an unrealistic fit in the NBA.