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Post#481 » by Marcus » Tue Dec 1, 2020 11:11 pm

AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:I only caught a few minutes of Stanford last night. Is Ziaire Williams attacking the basket at all? 0 FTAs through 1.5 games.


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Post#482 » by Marcus » Tue Dec 1, 2020 11:19 pm

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Marcus wrote:Is Jalen Green's the only "safe stock" of the G League kids with how impressive this college class has and will be?


Kuminga's pretty safe, Nix/Todd maybe not so much


Kuminga safe between what 5-10? Maybe even 7-10?
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Post#483 » by clyde21 » Tue Dec 1, 2020 11:20 pm

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Marcus wrote:Is Jalen Green's the only "safe stock" of the G League kids with how impressive this college class has and will be?


Kuminga's pretty safe, Nix/Todd maybe not so much


Kuminga safe between what 5-10? Maybe even 7-10?


i'd say 3-8 safe at this point
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Post#484 » by Marcus » Tue Dec 1, 2020 11:25 pm

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Kuminga's pretty safe, Nix/Todd maybe not so much


Kuminga safe between what 5-10? Maybe even 7-10?


i'd say 3-8 safe at this point


As high as 3? Who's he ahead of out of Mobes, J Green, and Cade?
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Post#485 » by clyde21 » Tue Dec 1, 2020 11:31 pm

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Kuminga safe between what 5-10? Maybe even 7-10?


i'd say 3-8 safe at this point


As high as 3? Who's he ahead of out of Mobes, J Green, and Cade?


possible he's ahead of Mobley because teams are infatuated with wings right now, and Kuminga checks off a lot of the marks they look for, i mean Patrick Williams and Isaac Okoro just went 4/5 (albeit a worse draft)
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Post#486 » by Marcus » Tue Dec 1, 2020 11:37 pm

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i'd say 3-8 safe at this point


As high as 3? Who's he ahead of out of Mobes, J Green, and Cade?


possible he's ahead of Mobley because teams are infatuated with wings right now, and Kuminga checks off a lot of the marks they look for, i mean Patrick Williams and Isaac Okoro just went 4/5 (albeit a worse draft)


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Post#487 » by Sea2003 » Tue Dec 1, 2020 11:45 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:Im not sure how high I would take Mobley in this draft, but that is just because I really like the perimeter players in this draft. With that said, its really hard not to like Mobley's game. Super fluid in his movements with enough explosion. He also just finds ways to impact the game without having to dominate the ball. Hard not to be a fan of this kid's game.


Yea I agree. I think there are too many good wings/Guards to take in this draft( Ziare, Green, Boston). I view Mobely kinda like a project in the sense that it'll take him a couple of years before he can fully develop into what he could be.
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Post#488 » by The-Power » Tue Dec 1, 2020 11:47 pm

Yeah that game pretty much showed Ziaire's struggles. So weak and unable to drive, and he's not the type of player yet that just gets his jump shot off at any time either. He plays defense, rebounds, passes and obviously has a beautiful shooting stroke – but there are severe limitations that are not easily fixed.

On a different note, I really liked Sharpe's passing (threw some nice ones) and generally how he quickly moved the ball. Also rebounds very well. But he also looked so awkward defending the PnR and was a bit lost on offense as well. On defense he also plays hard in the half court (and seems to have quick hands to boost) but doesn't run the court very well. Not really sure what to make of him yet.
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Post#489 » by clyde21 » Tue Dec 1, 2020 11:57 pm

i think the Klay comp for Ziaire is actually a decent one, not sure if he'll ever be the on ball defender Klay has been but I see a lot of the same strengths/weaknesses...a wet J will get you far for sure and if he can be a + defensively on ball that'll be big for his stock but he does have some limitations offensively.
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Post#490 » by clyde21 » Tue Dec 1, 2020 11:59 pm

Aiden Igiehon sighting for Louisville...forgot about him tbh
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Post#491 » by doordoor123 » Wed Dec 2, 2020 12:12 am

I also think a lot of us are looking at offense or potential offense and not enough on defense. Some of these guys are pretty bad defenders or are just super skinny for their height.
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Post#492 » by MemphisX » Wed Dec 2, 2020 12:19 am

Why is Ziaire wearing that brace?
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Post#493 » by doordoor123 » Wed Dec 2, 2020 12:30 am

Mobley reminds me of kareem abdul jabbar
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Post#494 » by PLO » Wed Dec 2, 2020 12:48 am

Duke4life831 wrote:Im not sure how high I would take Mobley in this draft, but that is just because I really like the perimeter players in this draft. With that said, its really hard not to like Mobley's game. Super fluid in his movements with enough explosion. He also just finds ways to impact the game without having to dominate the ball. Hard not to be a fan of this kid's game.


He plays a bit like an oversized wing. Looks awesome doing it.
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Post#495 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Dec 2, 2020 12:57 am

doordoor123 wrote:Mobley reminds me of kareem abdul jabbar

Tbh I thought the same thing. His build is similar. Obviously his game is nowhere near that level. He does have a nice hook shot.
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Post#496 » by Nazrmohamed » Wed Dec 2, 2020 1:12 am

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AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:I only caught a few minutes of Stanford last night. Is Ziaire Williams attacking the basket at all? 0 FTAs through 1.5 games.




Its definitely concerning but I mean, the guy is silky smooth and reminds me alot of Rip Hamilton with range and I know when somebody says that well why not take it to the next step and say Reggie Miller but thats just too lofty so Ill keep it what I said. He can come around screens, can catch/fake/sidestep or step in. These are things I respect from a shooter. But he does more than that too. One thing I notice is his teammates set horrible screens. Horrible, but it doesn't matter at least at this level. He finds ways to get his shot off over defense. But yeah it is concerning his lack of FTA. I like him as a prospect though.
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Post#497 » by doordoor123 » Wed Dec 2, 2020 1:14 am

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doordoor123 wrote:Mobley reminds me of kareem abdul jabbar

Tbh I thought the same thing. His build is similar. Obviously his game is nowhere near that level. He does have a nice hook shot.


Its his mobility and touch around the basket. Also the same size and build. Yeah, he isn't the post player that Jabbar was, but if Jabbar was younger I don't see why not. I don't see why he can't develop a game like that.
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Post#498 » by Nazrmohamed » Wed Dec 2, 2020 1:15 am

Is anybody else a bit concerned with BJ Boston? A bit wild, you can see potential for sure but he looks like a project.
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Post#499 » by Duke4life831 » Wed Dec 2, 2020 1:17 am

Nazrmohamed wrote:Is anybody else a bit concerned with BJ Boston? A bit wild, you can see potential for sure but he looks like a project.

He's my biggest question mark out of all the top guys.
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Post#500 » by Chi town » Wed Dec 2, 2020 3:34 am

Nazrmohamed wrote:Is anybody else a bit concerned with BJ Boston? A bit wild, you can see potential for sure but he looks like a project.


Yep. I think Clarke has flashed more honestly.

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