2024 NBA Draft Thread

BigGargamel · Post #481 » by **BigGargamel** » Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:10 pm

A guy no one has heard of. Even I had to look back on him, but I think could wind up as a first round pick.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4897397/wooga-poplar

Hal14 · Post #482 » by **Hal14** » Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:56 pm

BigGargamel wrote:A guy no one has heard of. Even I had to look back on him, but I think could wind up as a first round pick.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4897397/wooga-poplar

I think we all have heard of him. Did you not watch last season'a NCAA tournament?

whitehops · Post #483 » by **whitehops** » Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:31 pm

i know it's super early but how does the top of the draft look compared to previous years? the pistons 2-9 start already has me looking for talent in the draft...

SeattleJazzFan · Post #484 » by **SeattleJazzFan** » Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:56 pm

BigGargamel wrote:A guy no one has heard of. Even I had to look back on him, but I think could wind up as a first round pick.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4897397/wooga-poplar

everybody on this board should and probably does know who wooga poplar is.

BAMAFREAK · Post #485 » by **BAMAFREAK** » Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:14 pm

whitehops wrote:i know it's super early but how does the top of the draft look compared to previous years? the pistons 2-9 start already has me looking for talent in the draft...

I’ve asked the same as a Grizzlies fan. Not sure about the college guys but I’ve been bow score watching with Ron Holland and whoa boy it does not look good.

Post #486 » by **Duke4life831** » Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:07 pm

whitehops wrote:i know it's super early but how does the top of the draft look compared to previous years? the pistons 2-9 start already has me looking for talent in the draft...

This aint the year hoping for a high end pick haha. That kicks back up again in the next two drafts when Flagg/Bailey and AJ/Boozer enter the draft.

I have a feeling we are going to see 5+ guys being mentioned as favorites to go #1 throughout the year. And its not going to be because there will be 5+ guys that look to be franchise guys.

WargamesX · Post #487 » by **WargamesX** » Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:54 pm

Its way too early for this gloomy talk. The last time it was supposed to be a weak draft was 2020, and instead all you saw was parity 1-30 because there were no clear top guys. Usually, a bigger red flag to me is when the reports are its a 1-3 person draft because that means the scouts feel secure in the disparity in talent. Kind of like 2019, and even then some good players will go later in the draft. Anyhow let's wait until at least March before we write this whole draft off.

Hal14 · Post #488 » by **Hal14** » Tue Nov 14, 2023 9:09 pm

WargamesX wrote:Its way too early for this gloomy talk. The last time it was supposed to be a weak draft was 2020, and instead all you saw was parity 1-30 because there were no clear top guys. Usually, a bigger red flag to me is when the reports are its a 1-3 person draft because that means the scouts feel secure in the disparity in talent. Kind of like 2019, and even then some good players will go later in the draft. Anyhow let's wait until at least March before we write this whole draft off.

Good point. While it looks like a weaker class at the top in 2024, it's still very early.

Lots of time left before the draft - there will likely be at least 3 or 4 guys who really emerge as legit studs over the next 6 months..

Chuck Everett · Post #489 » by **Chuck Everett** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:12 am

Why did Xavier Booker go to Michigan State? Big Ten basketball is garbage. Izzo is playing upperclassmen scrubs over him.

Post #490 » by **retrobro90** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:08 am

Hunter Dickinson gets better every year. Made mincemeat of UK tonight

FarBeyondDriven · Post #491 » by **FarBeyondDriven** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:02 pm

whitehops wrote:i know it's super early but how does the top of the draft look compared to previous years? the pistons 2-9 start already has me looking for talent in the draft...

It stacks up well with most other drafts. It looks pretty deep too because it has a lot of returning players. I'm not sure any of them have star upside like some of the lottery guys but they'll be pivotal role players. Many are saying it's one of the best international classes too!

Early lottery projection:

Sarr
Holland
Walter
Castle
Mara
Collier
Ajinca
Almansa
Bradshaw
Buzelis
Edwards
Risacher
Salaun
Sane

you know it's a good draft when guys like Cody Williams, Bob Klintman, Nikola Topic, Mackenzie Mgbako and Elmarko Jackson might not be in the lottery. Sleepers for y'all to watch out for are Garwey Dual-Providence and Scotty Middleton-Ohio State. You heard it here first

I do wonder if it's making it much easier for these kids to stay in school since they make so much money in NIL. There are so many returning guys who almost certainly would have been drafted if they came out but I guess the money is a wash and they can improve their games by staying rather than sit at the end of an NBA bench and never play

NYPiston · Post #492 » by **NYPiston** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:51 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
This aint the year hoping for a high end pick haha. That kicks back up again in the next two drafts when Flagg/Bailey and AJ/Boozer enter the draft.

I have a feeling we are going to see 5+ guys being mentioned as favorites to go #1 throughout the year. And its not going to be because there will be 5+ guys that look to be franchise guys.

Wonderful. Kill me now

Post #493 » by **Duke4life831** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:01 pm

NYPiston wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
This aint the year hoping for a high end pick haha. That kicks back up again in the next two drafts when Flagg/Bailey and AJ/Boozer enter the draft.

I have a feeling we are going to see 5+ guys being mentioned as favorites to go #1 throughout the year. And its not going to be because there will be 5+ guys that look to be franchise guys.

Wonderful. Kill me now

Haha there are a few on here that are higher on this class than most. But ya this class has overall has been kind of pushed aside by most, because the upcoming classes have the much more wow prospects in them.

With that said, its not like its going to be filled with busts. Just not filled with guys that most believe are high high level talent that you would hope to see at the top of a draft.

clyde21 · Post #494 » by **clyde21** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:50 pm

FarBeyondDriven wrote:
whitehops wrote:i know it's super early but how does the top of the draft look compared to previous years? the pistons 2-9 start already has me looking for talent in the draft...

It stacks up well with most other drafts.

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

clyde21 · Post #495 » by **clyde21** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:54 pm

WargamesX wrote:Its way too early for this gloomy talk. The last time it was supposed to be a weak draft was 2020, and instead all you saw was parity 1-30 because there were no clear top guys. Usually, a bigger red flag to me is when the reports are its a 1-3 person draft because that means the scouts feel secure in the disparity in talent. Kind of like 2019, and even then some good players will go later in the draft. Anyhow let's wait until at least March before we write this whole draft off.

it's just not a great draft - any draft where you have to rely on returning talent or international talent to solidify the lotto/top20 isn't a great draft.

doesn't mean you cant find or there wont be good players to be had but you can tell it's not gonna be a great one, by virtue of a weak HS class, by virtue of some of the archetypes available, a lot of non-NCAA guys provide high variability, etc.

also that 2020 class you're talking about was supposed to be the '3 person draft' with Ant, Wise and LaMelo.

NYPiston · Post #496 » by **NYPiston** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:02 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
Haha there are a few on here that are higher on this class than most. But ya this class has overall has been kind of pushed aside by most, because the upcoming classes have the much more wow prospects in them.

With that said, its not like its going to be filled with busts. Just not filled with guys that most believe are high high level talent that you would hope to see at the top of a draft.

My hope is that you just never know, that a lot can change with a year of development. Some drafts like 2022, you knew going in that there would be a lot of high level prospects and it pretty much lived up to the hype but then you have a draft like 2020 that was a disappointment and turned out to have two legit franchise players in Edwards and Hailburton so you never know, what looks like a weak draft now could look stronger in a few months. That's my story and I'm sticking to it to make myself feel better about another down the toilet Pistons season :wink:

HadAnEffectHere · Post #497 » by **HadAnEffectHere** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:02 pm

NYPiston wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
This aint the year hoping for a high end pick haha. That kicks back up again in the next two drafts when Flagg/Bailey and AJ/Boozer enter the draft.

I have a feeling we are going to see 5+ guys being mentioned as favorites to go #1 throughout the year. And its not going to be because there will be 5+ guys that look to be franchise guys.

Wonderful. Kill me now

It's pretty bad for the Pistons specifically as the top 3 picks are probably going to end up being

Alexander Sarr-Nic Claxton like center
Nikola Topic-Elite passing and ball handling 6'7" PG who is all-time bad at defense
Isaiah Collier-Elite strength and passing PG with mediocre athleticism, ball handling, and shooting

After that, it's a bunch of fairly generic 3D guys which are always semi-useful I guess.

I think most fans of tanking teams (Jazz fan here so myself included) should resign themselves to their team targeting a nondescript 3D guy this upcoming draft.

(Ron Holland and Taylor Hendricks on the Jazz might be the least skilled 3-4 combo in the league outside of three point shooting, lol)

The-Power · Post #498 » by **The-Power** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:12 pm

Man, the top of the upcoming draft class has thus far been so underwhelming that people would still rather talk about how last year's draftees fare in the NBA instead of what's going on in the NCAA or G-League at the moment.

SeattleJazzFan · Post #499 » by **SeattleJazzFan** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:53 pm

The-Power wrote:Man, the top of the upcoming draft class has thus far been so underwhelming that people would still rather talk about how last year's draftees fare in the NBA instead of what's going on in the NCAA or G-League at the moment.

meh. it's early give it time. gotta give these OADs and young g leaguers a few games to get going.

HadAnEffectHere · Post #500 » by **HadAnEffectHere** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:54 pm

The-Power wrote:Man, the top of the upcoming draft class has thus far been so underwhelming that people would still rather talk about how last year's draftees fare in the NBA instead of what's going on in the NCAA or G-League at the moment.

I mean, the #9 and #28 guys from last year's draft class (who haven't sniffed the rotation) just beat Ron Holland by 60 points is why, lol.