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Post#541 » by SaNdMiRkS » Sun Aug 15, 2021 4:27 pm

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Roger Murdock wrote:Evan Mobley helps the team rebounding by lowering opponents FG%. He covers a lot of ground and is frequently far from the hoop/away from the potential rebounds. I haven't been a fan of him winning physical rebounds in summer league or college, its an obvious weakness of his, but defense/rebounding are team stats and I expect Allen to feast on the glass next year.

What I love about Mobley right now is he has two clear weaknesses

1. Strength/physicality
2. Shooting

These are also the 2 skills most proven to improve over time. His vision, game feel, and mobility are other-worldly.

Cavs seem hell bend on developing him as a playmaker from what I've read/heard. I think long term for his development (and the teams) this is 100% the right call but will likely have a negative affect on the teams W/L record and his efficiency metrics this year.


he is basically a long term project that could pan out. jjj didnt.
cavs in the end didnt gain anything from development only got mediocre picks until now. even assuming mobley is a future all star, they need 2 of his caliber more and need to get rid of the entire core and tank 1 more yr.


:lol: :lol: what in the sam hell are you talking about lmao....

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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#542 » by Stillwater » Sun Aug 15, 2021 4:31 pm

DroseReturnChi wrote:
Roger Murdock wrote:Evan Mobley helps the team rebounding by lowering opponents FG%. He covers a lot of ground and is frequently far from the hoop/away from the potential rebounds. I haven't been a fan of him winning physical rebounds in summer league or college, its an obvious weakness of his, but defense/rebounding are team stats and I expect Allen to feast on the glass next year.

What I love about Mobley right now is he has two clear weaknesses

1. Strength/physicality
2. Shooting

These are also the 2 skills most proven to improve over time. His vision, game feel, and mobility are other-worldly.

Cavs seem hell bend on developing him as a playmaker from what I've read/heard. I think long term for his development (and the teams) this is 100% the right call but will likely have a negative affect on the teams W/L record and his efficiency metrics this year.


he is basically a long term project that could pan out. jjj didnt.
cavs in the end didnt gain anything from development only got mediocre picks until now. even assuming mobley is a future all star, they need 2 of his caliber more and need to get rid of the entire core and tank 1 more yr.

I don't think you know anything about Mobley or CLE or what they are doing there... Mobley was and remains the best 7'er from the last 3 or more draft classes, the only main issue that is a project per say with him besides learning the system is adding muscle. As far as what the Cavs are doing with their other core players , Sexton has outperformed all expectations, he was never getting traded. Garland had a bounce back season and resembled the prospect he was before injury... which was the best pg in the draft before Ja Morant exploded onto the scene while Garland was injured. Okoro was given massive amounts of grind against every teams best offensive players, and for a rookie held his own. He is right in tune with Mobley for development timeline for this team long term and both project to be a top 5 defender at their position. The Cavs also have a lot of project players and some specialists that just need to get healthy but overall there is nothing wrong at all with the Cavs accept needing a true SF and buying out KLove. They should have a much better season than last year ( I am guessing at least make the play in) since they basically are rolling it back and looked great before the injuries piled up early last season in which they never recovered.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#543 » by clyde21 » Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:12 pm

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Roger Murdock wrote:Evan Mobley helps the team rebounding by lowering opponents FG%. He covers a lot of ground and is frequently far from the hoop/away from the potential rebounds. I haven't been a fan of him winning physical rebounds in summer league or college, its an obvious weakness of his, but defense/rebounding are team stats and I expect Allen to feast on the glass next year.

What I love about Mobley right now is he has two clear weaknesses

1. Strength/physicality
2. Shooting

These are also the 2 skills most proven to improve over time. His vision, game feel, and mobility are other-worldly.

Cavs seem hell bend on developing him as a playmaker from what I've read/heard. I think long term for his development (and the teams) this is 100% the right call but will likely have a negative affect on the teams W/L record and his efficiency metrics this year.


he is basically a long term project that could pan out. jjj didnt.
cavs in the end didnt gain anything from development only got mediocre picks until now. even assuming mobley is a future all star, they need 2 of his caliber more and need to get rid of the entire core and tank 1 more yr.

I don't think you know anything about Mobley or CLE or what they are doing there... Mobley was and remains the best 7'er from the last 3 or more draft classes, the only main issue that is a project per say with him besides learning the system is adding muscle. As far as what the Cavs are doing with their other core players , Sexton has outperformed all expectations, he was never getting traded. Garland had a bounce back season and resembled the prospect he was before injury... which was the best pg in the draft before Ja Morant exploded onto the scene while Garland was injured. Okoro was given massive amounts of grind against every teams best offensive players, and for a rookie held his own. He is right in tune with Mobley for development timeline for this team long term and both project to be a top 5 defender at their position. The Cavs also have a lot of project players and some specialists that just need to get healthy but overall there is nothing wrong at all with the Cavs accept needing a true SF and buying out KLove. They should have a much better season than last year ( I am guessing at least make the play in) since they basically are rolling it back and looked great before the injuries piled up early last season in which they never recovered.


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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#544 » by Stillwater » Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:33 pm

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Stillwater wrote:
DroseReturnChi wrote:
he is basically a long term project that could pan out. jjj didnt.
cavs in the end didnt gain anything from development only got mediocre picks until now. even assuming mobley is a future all star, they need 2 of his caliber more and need to get rid of the entire core and tank 1 more yr.

I don't think you know anything about Mobley or CLE or what they are doing there... Mobley was and remains the best 7'er from the last 3 or more draft classes, the only main issue that is a project per say with him besides learning the system is adding muscle. As far as what the Cavs are doing with their other core players , Sexton has outperformed all expectations, he was never getting traded. Garland had a bounce back season and resembled the prospect he was before injury... which was the best pg in the draft before Ja Morant exploded onto the scene while Garland was injured. Okoro was given massive amounts of grind against every teams best offensive players, and for a rookie held his own. He is right in tune with Mobley for development timeline for this team long term and both project to be a top 5 defender at their position. The Cavs also have a lot of project players and some specialists that just need to get healthy but overall there is nothing wrong at all with the Cavs accept needing a true SF and buying out KLove. They should have a much better season than last year ( I am guessing at least make the play in) since they basically are rolling it back and looked great before the injuries piled up early last season in which they never recovered.


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I know jack **** though so there is that lol
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#545 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Aug 19, 2021 1:22 pm

As I’ve said before he’s not the best big man prospect since AD like people have claimed. Hell he’s not even a better prospect than KAT and Ayton. He’s more of a JJJ type big. Just solid, nothing amazing
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Post#546 » by Marcus » Tue Aug 24, 2021 2:50 am

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Post#548 » by DCasey91 » Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:04 am

Had Mobley/Green as the distinct tier 1 best player in this draft. Turns out it could be just Mobley.

Both need 2+ years but it’s really there for both.

Loved Mobley the first second I saw him play and nothing has changed either.
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Post#549 » by clyde21 » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:02 am

the velociraptor is finna be a freak in a couple of years once he starts getting that man strength
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Post#550 » by DCasey91 » Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:09 am

clyde21 wrote:the velociraptor is finna be a freak in a couple of years once he starts getting that man strength


Bosh/Davis hybrid. The highest selling point for me was his facilitating/passing skills it’s up there age for age as just more advanced then all the other bigs drafted in recent years.

If one year he averages over 4 assists it would not surprise me in the slightest.
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Post#551 » by BlazersBroncos » Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:34 pm

His passing looks elite for a guy his age and so raw otherwise. He can be a 4apg guy for sure.

Still think he was and is the best prospect from the 2021 draft. He is just so fluid for 7'0, has the passing instincts, defensive instincts and is showing a nice hook shot. He needs to develop his J, but thats one skill that guys regularly improve upon.

I actually like the idea, on paper, of a Lauri / Mobley big man duo. I think Allen will be the odd man out.
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Post#552 » by DCasey91 » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:02 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:His passing looks elite for a guy his age and so raw otherwise. He can be a 4apg guy for sure.

Still think he was and is the best prospect from the 2021 draft. He is just so fluid for 7'0, has the passing instincts, defensive instincts and is showing a nice hook shot. He needs to develop his J, but thats one skill that guys regularly improve upon.

I actually like the idea, on paper, of a Lauri / Mobley big man duo. I think Allen will be the odd man out.


I agree in due time, can’t have that many bigs it’ll open you up on defense and the offense can get static.

I think it’s more or less protecting their Franchise player. Still needs about two years I reckon to get the weight/strength good. Start at PF then move to C when the time comes.

Also there is some play to play the AD switch role. Because he’s a great passer he can feed Allen too.

But the funny thing is he’s less raw and ready to go than Ingram in his rookie year.

Elite defensive traits
Elite passing traits

So he won’t be a bad on the floor. I think he could be a great offensive hub (top 10ish team offensive numbers) and a top 3 defender in the comp.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#553 » by Marcus » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:16 pm

starting to make sense.
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Post#554 » by PhilBlackson » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:23 pm

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Post#555 » by SaiCLE » Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:06 pm

Lauri & Mobley fit so well together. Especially with the jumbo lineups with Allen at the 5. We finally found our guy. Just have to split SexLand & move Okoro to Sg
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Post#556 » by BostonCouchGM » Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:13 am

SaiCLE wrote:Lauri & Mobley fit so well together. Especially with the jumbo lineups with Allen at the 5. We finally found our guy. Just have to split SexLand & move Okoro to Sg


I have expressed this exact sentiment but I'm starting to think that if Sexton leaves they'll have nobody aggressive enough to go get their shot. They'd need to have great ball movement and Okoro would need to become a knockdown shooter. That said, the improved defense would make for a much better game to watch
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#557 » by clyde21 » Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:28 am

SaiCLE wrote:Lauri & Mobley fit so well together. Especially with the jumbo lineups with Allen at the 5. We finally found our guy. Just have to split SexLand & move Okoro to Sg


Cle should probably look to move Allen/Sexton asap and move forward with the rest, build around Mobley/Garland primarily

id like for a wing in this next draft for sure to plug @ the pvt between them, but Cleveland is not far.
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Post#558 » by SaiCLE » Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:27 pm

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SaiCLE wrote:Lauri & Mobley fit so well together. Especially with the jumbo lineups with Allen at the 5. We finally found our guy. Just have to split SexLand & move Okoro to Sg


Cle should probably look to move Allen/Sexton asap and move forward with the rest, build around Mobley/Garland primarily

id like for a wing in this next draft for sure to plug @ the pvt between them, but Cleveland is not far.

I disagree on moving Allen right now. Mobley is not ready to bang with NBA centers for a full season. But I agree about building around Mobley/Garland. I really wanted Altman to try and get Reddish

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Post#559 » by SaiCLE » Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:28 pm

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SaiCLE wrote:Lauri & Mobley fit so well together. Especially with the jumbo lineups with Allen at the 5. We finally found our guy. Just have to split SexLand & move Okoro to Sg


I have expressed this exact sentiment but I'm starting to think that if Sexton leaves they'll have nobody aggressive enough to go get their shot. They'd need to have great ball movement and Okoro would need to become a knockdown shooter. That said, the improved defense would make for a much better game to watch

I agree. I would really like to get Reddish
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#560 » by shakes0 » Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:58 pm

SaiCLE wrote:
BostonCouchGM wrote:
SaiCLE wrote:Lauri & Mobley fit so well together. Especially with the jumbo lineups with Allen at the 5. We finally found our guy. Just have to split SexLand & move Okoro to Sg


I have expressed this exact sentiment but I'm starting to think that if Sexton leaves they'll have nobody aggressive enough to go get their shot. They'd need to have great ball movement and Okoro would need to become a knockdown shooter. That said, the improved defense would make for a much better game to watch

I agree. I would really like to get Reddish



Reddish for what? Cleveland doesn't have anything Atlanta wants over Reddish in terms of the players who would be offered.

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