All Things Luka Doncic

[Bob8]

Who said anything about him being an MVP or not signing a contract? Where did I write any of this? Thats why there is no debating you, you cant even understand what I am talking about and then make up things as you go. The dispute is about the length of the contract not if he is going to sign. Mate, you dont realize certain things and then write posts like Llull will call him on the phone and ask him why he doesnt want to sign and how he needs him to win the EL hahaha

Like pacersGM told you earlier, your arguments are foggy.

One more thing. Why would they have to "force" his minutes? If they want to win games, they will have to play him. Its as simple as that. They will not win the EL, they wouldnt win it even if Llull was healthy. If they dont play Doncic, season will be even worse and Real cant allow that. What do you think is worse for Real, playing Doncic, win some games and have a decent season then let him go to the NBA or not play him, have a bad season and then he leaves? Besides, he is not just some young player. He is "the golden boy" of Euro basketball and if Real limits him, they will forever be known as the club which ruined the next big thing. There are many more negatives for Real if they limit or bench him than if they let him do his thing no matter what happens after the season. If he doesnt get the minutes this year, thats on Real Madrid and everyone knows that. If you dont get that, I dont know what else to tell you.

First, I'm not your mate. Real is the biggest sport institution in Europe and golden boy is 18 years old boy from Slovenia. If you don't understand the difference I really can't help you. I won't even comment about," they will always be known as the club which ruined the next big thing."

[XTraderXL]

Ok mate, whatever you say. You are 100% correct))) Peace

[Von Bismarck]

Bob, I get what you are trying to say, but let's be real, worst NBA team is way more appealing than Real Madrid or for that fact, any club in Europe or worldwide. I know Laso could bench him and not play him for a year if all hell breaks loose but what good would that do to Madrid? Doncic is way to valuable not to play. Considering Rudy is broken and will never be the same, Doncic is a key asset in that squad. He already may be the best player Madrid has along Llull, who is also broken right now.

What kind of contract Luka has currently? Not asking money-wise. Till when?

[Gam]

I'm not at all a big EuroLeague guy (I'm an American), but I've been a Madridista for most of my life and as far as I know, Florentino Perez has the final say in their Basketball decisions (please correct me if I'm wrong), the same way he does for their Football decisions. So I would assume they will operate the same way they would if this was football.

When a Madrid (assume I'm talking about footballers unless I specify) player wants to leave the club helps facilitate that, selling them on for reasonable fees. For example Morata and James this summer, or Ozil a few years ago. The biggest reason the club is happy to do this is that for a club as wealthy as Madrid it is far more important for the club to be seen as a great place to go to and play for than it is to haggle over a few millions or hold a player hostage with his contract.

So what I expect to happen is that RM/Flo will understand that Doncic wants to play in the NBA and that is what is best for his career so they will offer him a generous one year deal and a good role in the team.

They will do that because it sets good president. When the next Euro basketball wonderkid comes along he would be able to see how RM treated another player like him and would be more likely to sign with RM because he'd be confident that RM is the right place to go to to make his dream of being an NBA star a reality.

*I'm very hungover and can't be assed to proofread this sorry if I rambled.

[Von Bismarck]

But Madrid doesn't need to offer Luka anything for that matter, literally any team in Europe would take Doncic for one year on a two year contract for example and then compensate & earn money after NBA team buys his contract. As simple as that.

[Juree93]

What kind of contract Luka has currently? Not asking money-wise. Till when?

If i am reading that correctly he is without contract ATM... I know his last contract lasted till he was 18, but there was no information if extenstion was done.

[Pofukauskas]

Doncic MUST go to NBA ASAP, meaning next year! If that means he has to sign a 1 year contract with some second tier team for peanuts for the upcoming season then so be it, he will earn more than enough in the future. He MUST NOT waste time with unathletic white boys in Europe or he'll become a scrub like Spanoulis.

Just play this season out somewhere, do not fold to Real's (or anyone's) pressure to sign multiyear contract, declare for draft, get drafted, go to US, and don't look back. It doesn't really matter where he'll be picked, first or seventh, it doesn't matter at all. He just has to work religiously hard on his conditioning, getting stronger, faster, more explosive. Everything else will come naturally, he has great shooting touch and feel for the game. He should have a great career ahead if he's not lazy in the gym. He needs to understand that he will have to work more than black athletes in the gym throughout his career to compensate for the lack of natural athletic ability and he'll be fine.

[Von Bismarck]

What kind of contract Luka has currently? Not asking money-wise. Till when?

If i am reading that correctly he is without contract ATM... I know his last contract lasted till he was 18, but there was no information if extenstion was done.

Well, then he can choose where he wants to play for another year. I'm sure just about any Euroleague team would like to ''rent'' him for a year before he goes across the pond. It's a win-win situation for both. Luka gets playing time while his club gets a great young player plus money compensation from an NBA team that drafts him.

And yes, I think Luka Doncic is worth of 1st pick. No, I don't think he'll be drafted first overall, rather 2nd or 3rd.

[Goon]

What kind of contract Luka has currently? Not asking money-wise. Till when?

If i am reading that correctly he is without contract ATM... I know his last contract lasted till he was 18, but there was no information if extenstion was done.

Well, then he can choose where he wants to play for another year. I'm sure just about any Euroleague team would like to ''rent'' him for a year before he goes across the pond. It's a win-win situation for both. Luka gets playing time while his club gets a great young player plus money compensation from an NBA team that drafts him.

And yes, I think Luka Doncic is worth of 1st pick. No, I don't think he'll be drafted first overall, rather 2nd or 3rd.

Doncic is not without a contract. If he was, he'd strike a deal with Real a long time ago because he'd hold all the leverage. I don't remember exactly for how long his contract runs but it's definitely not expired.

Scratch that, managed to find the article in Marca that states he's contracted till 2021.
http://www.marca.com/baloncesto/acb/2017/02/07/5899585ae5fdea94118bf939.html

That's why Real is in no panic mode.

[Wildlinger]

Doncic is currently under contract for Real. His old contract was void when he turned 18 and he had to sign another one. He wouldn’t play in Eurobasket if he wasn’t under contract. No agent would ever allow something like that. That would mean that Real would hold all the leverage in the world if Doncic got (seriously) injured and they could pressure him into signing a bad long term deal. Filipovich and Duffy would have to lose their minds to allow something like that.

And anybody who thinks Doncic will stay in Europe for an extra season is obviously mistaken. Barring any serious injuries Doncic will enter next draft. Doing otherwise would be extremely careless and downright stupid. Doncic’s representation is too good for something as dumb as that.

5th pick will earn at least $15M from his rookie contact after this season (5 per year). Doncic will most likely be at least a 5th pick. No team in Europe would match a top 5 pick rookie contract without a long term commitment and even than it’s highly unlikely. Doncic will significantly benefit from going to the NBA next season, so delaying that just doesn’t make any sense at all.

[juanc]

How many times, in the past 20 years, has it happened, that a top5 pick didn't go to the league immediately? Is there a rule that could prevent Real to keep Dončič for another year if he gets drafted high?
For example, if Luka wanted to stay in Madrid(hypothetically), does the club that will draft him have any authority to force him to come in the NBA?

[UcanUwill]

How many times, in the past 20 years, has it happened, that a top5 pick didn't go to the league immediately? Is there a rule that could prevent Real to keep Dončič for another year if he gets drafted high?
For example, if Luka wanted to stay in Madrid(hypothetically), does the club that will draft him have any authority to force him to come in the NBA?

No, it has not, NBA has no authoroty in such matter.

[Derento]

How many times, in the past 20 years, has it happened, that a top5 pick didn't go to the league immediately? Is there a rule that could prevent Real to keep Dončič for another year if he gets drafted high?
For example, if Luka wanted to stay in Madrid(hypothetically), does the club that will draft him have any authority to force him to come in the NBA?

Not in the last 20 years but David Robinson joined the NBA a few years after his draft because of service to the navy.

[Roddy B for 3]

How many times, in the past 20 years, has it happened, that a top5 pick didn't go to the league immediately? Is there a rule that could prevent Real to keep Dončič for another year if he gets drafted high?
For example, if Luka wanted to stay in Madrid(hypothetically), does the club that will draft him have any authority to force him to come in the NBA?

Not in the last 20 years but David Robinson joined the NBA a few years after his draft because of service to the navy.

Rubio

[Rn5ho]

Is there some live stream for game vs Poland today?

[pacersGM]

to the guy who intensive compared doncic & dragic in the preparational games, and where i said dragic has another gear for the real games (not russian students) - i PRESENT YOU: 20 points IN THE FIRST HALF by goran dragic first point taken. for the others il have to wait a few more seasons

[Thespianoid]

Bit erratic shot selection from Doncic during the game. Settling for pullup 3's when better north/south decisions available. Still made them at a good clip (3/7), so I guess volume 3PTA potential.

Continued to snake some PnR to score, but struggled to time his steps correctly and still shies away from contact when contested at the rim. Needs to aggressively seek out that contact to turn current paint misses into FTA. Biggest concern is here.

Otherwise, showing what we already know. strong rebounder, transition threat, great at putting defender in jail out of PnR, elite vision and passing ability. All-around impact even when not scoring well.

Defensively seemed fine, some struggles to navigate screens but will recover into the play when screened at POA. Off-ball, often would play up on his man for no reason, which led to him getting face cut a bit too much. Unwittingly created a pierce.

[Rn5ho]

His shot was off today, but games like that happen. As always contributed in all other statistical areas - 8 rebounds, 6 assists and 2 steals. Hope he relaxes in the next games and we see some good games from him.

[Bob8]

to the guy who intensive compared doncic & dragic in the preparational games, and where i said dragic has another gear for the real games (not russian students) - i PRESENT YOU: 20 points IN THE FIRST HALF by goran dragic first point taken. for the others il have to wait a few more seasons

Comparison was who is better rebounder, assistant and shooter, not player.

Rbd. 8:2
Ass. 6:4
3pts 3:7 vs. 1:5

[pacersGM]

I dont know what you compared but i know when during preparation games in wich goran played in 4th gear instead of 6th gear thats my point