Victor Oladipo

[rockmanslim]

Cool story about Oladipo:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--india ... 36363.html

Apparently his father, a Nigerian immigrant and PhD, cares not a lick about basketball. He's a bookworm who has never once seen Victor play college ball, nor does he care to. But I guess that's where Victor got his work ethic from. Really intriguing family.

[Grits n Gravy]

good read. his dad sounds like a complete douche.

[Ziggy Stardust]

Can someone convince me why Mclemore is considered a better prospect than this guy?

[Cammo101]

Can someone convince me why Mclemore is considered a better prospect than this guy?

As a freshman, McLemore is already the better shooter, scorer, and athlete. While Oladipo may be slightly better now, he is older and has a lower ceiling than McLemore. Oladpio projects as a quality role guy, while McLemore has all star upside.

[BaunceyChillups]

Can someone convince me why Mclemore is considered a better prospect than this guy?

As a freshman, McLemore is already the better shooter, scorer, and athlete. While Oladipo may be slightly better now, he is older and has a lower ceiling than McLemore. Oladpio projects as a quality role guy, while McLemore has all star upside.

McLemore is absolutely not a better scorer than Oladipo considering he has no floor game whatsoever

[EricAnderson]

As a freshman, McLemore is already the better shooter, scorer, and athlete. While Oladipo may be slightly better now, he is older and has a lower ceiling than McLemore. Oladpio projects as a quality role guy, while McLemore has all star upside.

Oladipo is 9 months older then Mclemore hardly means Mclemore has much more upside..

And Mclemore is a better athlete? youre splititng hairs Oladipo is a great athlete

[Johnlac1]

They're both excellent prospects. Both have outstanding athleticism. But I'd pick Oladipo to have a better start than McLemore because he's a better all-around player. McLemore certainly has the athleticism to be a good defender, but he has to pick up his ball-handling as well. I guess if you're a team that needs backcourt scoring, you'll go for McLemore. If you want a player who will be strong on defense right away with the ability to score in the flow of the game, you'll go for Oladipo. I'd like either one, but I'd probably pick Oladipo. That kind of desire is rare.

[Ruzious]

I like McLemore, but If I'm starting a team, I take Oladipo over McLemore - in spite of the tremendous age difference. It's rare when you find a player who competes like him and even rarer when that player is a tremendous athlete. I know he's going to do whatever it takes to win - on either end of the court - including on the boards - right to the end of the game. If it takes using all his energy hounding Trey Burke full court all game long at the expense of his offense in order to win - he'll not only do it; he did it. I don't know if McLemore is going to disappear when the going gets tough. When it's close, I'll take the competitor over the pretty boy every time.

[Cammo101]

It was more of an experience issue than an age difference. Oladipo was not this player as a freshman, he grew into it.

I think a lot about where Oladipo is picked will depend on how tall he actually is when measured.

[Ziggy Stardust]

It was more of an experience issue than an age difference. Oladipo was not this player as a freshman, he grew into it.

I think a lot about where Oladipo is picked will depend on how tall he actually is when measured.

Of course he wasn't this player as a freshman, but that shouldn't be held against him. 95% of players don't develop this much so him being a junior is almost irrelevant considering he's a 20 year old junior. I n fact it mostly shows his upward trajectory/work ethic.

When I look at the two, I see Oladipo as bigger, stronger, and more athletic. Forget about the defense, and rebounding. Oladipo is scoring around 13-14 ppg on an absurd efficiency getting the bulk of his points as a slasher. That production and efficiency as a slasher in the college game with a packed point should make people salivate when projecting him to the NBA game. especiallywh en he plays way above the rim.

Mclemore is a good athlete with a pure shot but I don't see how he was the potential of Oladipo.

[Cammo101]

When I look at the two, I see Oladipo as bigger, stronger, and more athletic. Forget about the defense, and rebounding. Oladipo is scoring around 13-14 ppg on an absurd efficiency getting the bulk of his points as a slasher. That production and efficiency as a slasher in the college game with a packed point should make people salivate when projecting him to the NBA game. especiallywh en he plays way above the rim.

I like Oladipo, but you are comparing a complimentary player against a go to player. It is easier for Oladipo to get his points because he is not the focal point of his team's offense. Oladipo is allowed to get his points when getting them is the easiest. A put back here, a layup there. McLemore has to score or his team is at a disadvantage. Great teams have a way of hiding the deficiencies and showing the strengths of their players. Also, I don't think Oladipo is bigger or more athletic than McLemore.

Oladipo is a really good player and deserving of a lot of his praise, but I can't help but think that if you switched their teams Oladipo would be considered a somewhat inconsistent scorer and McLemore would be getting a lot more love.

[Ziggy Stardust]

When I look at the two, I see Oladipo as bigger, stronger, and more athletic. Forget about the defense, and rebounding. Oladipo is scoring around 13-14 ppg on an absurd efficiency getting the bulk of his points as a slasher. That production and efficiency as a slasher in the college game with a packed point should make people salivate when projecting him to the NBA game. especiallywh en he plays way above the rim.

I like Oladipo, but you are comparing a complimentary player against a go to player. It is easier for Oladipo to get his points because he is not the focal point of his team's offense. Oladipo is allowed to get his points when getting them is the easiest. A put back here, a layup there. McLemore has to score or his team is at a disadvantage. Great teams have a way of hiding the deficiencies and showing the strengths of their players. Also, I don't think Oladipo is bigger or more athletic than McLemore.

Oladipo is a really good player and deserving of a lot of his praise, but I can't help but think that if you switched their teams Oladipo would be considered a somewhat inconsistent scorer and McLemore would be getting a lot more love.

Oladipo is shooting like 60% from the field. So I actually believe the opposite. Everytime I watch him I'm amazed by how easily he gets to the paint, and his touch when he gets there. It seems like whenever his team needs a basket he's the one creating the offense.

I literally just don't understand how the less physically gifted jump shooter is considered to have the greater potential over the more physically gifted dynamic slasher, espically when theres less than a year between them age wise. I'm saying this without mentioning how much greater of a defender Olidipo is.

[Leolovinliberal]

Can someone convince me why Mclemore is considered a better prospect than this guy?

As a freshman, McLemore is already the better shooter, scorer, and athlete. While Oladipo may be slightly better now, he is older and has a lower ceiling than McLemore. Oladpio projects as a quality role guy, while McLemore has all star upside.

Aren't you almost always wrong our your draft projections?

[discord]

I like Oladipo, but you are comparing a complimentary player against a go to player. It is easier for Oladipo to get his points because he is not the focal point of his team's offense. Oladipo is allowed to get his points when getting them is the easiest. A put back here, a layup there. McLemore has to score or his team is at a disadvantage. Great teams have a way of hiding the deficiencies and showing the strengths of their players. Also, I don't think Oladipo is bigger or more athletic than McLemore.

Oladipo is a really good player and deserving of a lot of his praise, but I can't help but think that if you switched their teams Oladipo would be considered a somewhat inconsistent scorer and McLemore would be getting a lot more love.

For some reason people don't quite get this concept. He is junk yard, clean-up player offensively who is slowly but surely developing a semblance of an offensive repertoire.

[Cammo101]

I like Oladipo, but you are comparing a complimentary player against a go to player. It is easier for Oladipo to get his points because he is not the focal point of his team's offense. Oladipo is allowed to get his points when getting them is the easiest. A put back here, a layup there. McLemore has to score or his team is at a disadvantage. Great teams have a way of hiding the deficiencies and showing the strengths of their players. Also, I don't think Oladipo is bigger or more athletic than McLemore.

Oladipo is a really good player and deserving of a lot of his praise, but I can't help but think that if you switched their teams Oladipo would be considered a somewhat inconsistent scorer and McLemore would be getting a lot more love.

For some reason people don't quite get this concept. He is junk yard, clean-up player offensively who is slowly but surely developing a semblance of an offensive repertoire.

Exactly. Oladipo at the NBA level is going to be a complementary player. That is not a knock on him, it is just how his game is tailored. He is kind of this year's MKG.

Most people don't seem to get what I call the Corey Brewer Concept. That is, when you are on a very stacked team, said team allows guys to more easily play to their strengths and hide their weaknesses. This almost without fail causes the players on that team to be overhyped by a lot of fans and far too many NBA scouts and execs.

[Jory04]

Let's not forget that Mclemore is a redshirt freshman that has been working with Self for two full years now, and I would say Oladipo has consistently faced the better competition. I think it's obvious that Mclemore is the better scorer, but Oladipo has a more well-rounded game.

[Ruzious]

We shouldn't assume Oladipo is going to be this very limited offensive role player in the NBA that most seem to assume he'll be. He is part of the most efficient offensive team in the NCAA, so he is doing what he's supposed to do offensively. Since they're already the BEST offensively - it's hard to come to a conclusion that Indy would be a better offensive team if they had McLemore instead of Oladipo. Part of the reason Indy is so good is that Oladipo causes turnovers - which lead to easy baskets. McLemore doesn't have that kind of impact.

As was said, Oladipo's improvement has been because he's worked hard to improve. But it's silly to assume that he's hit any kind of ceiling for continued improvement. More likely, that work ethic is going to lead to further improvement and - if given the opportunity, he could very well continue to show dramatic improvement in offensive productivity. Label him as a role player or anything else, but that doesn't diminish his value. People did the same with Scottie Pippen - even after he led the Bulls in scoring, rebounding, assists, steals and blocks in the full season that Michael Jordan played baseball. I'd just label him as a winner. His role is to win.

[Cammo101]

I don't necessarily disagree with anything you are saying. But, is McLemore not also a winner. He is the best player on a team pretty much just as good as Indiana. Why is Oladipo a winner and not McLemore?

I like Oladipo's game a lot, I just think there is something of a double standard at play.

[Ruzious]

I call Oladipo a winner because he impacts the game depending on what his team needs. I think McLemore is limited in the ways he affects games. He's an off the ball scorer. He's very good at it, but is he a guy you even consider moving to cover a Trey Burke? Probably not - and on Kansas, you probably want Releford to cover the better wing scorer. And down the stretch of tight games, he's disappeared. On blowouts, he's been great.

[Cammo101]

I call Oladipo a winner because he impacts the game depending on what his team needs. I think McLemore is limited in the ways he affects games. He's an off the ball scorer. He's very good at it, but is he a guy you even consider moving to cover a Trey Burke? Probably not - and on Kansas, you probably want Releford to cover the better wing scorer. And down the stretch of tight games, he's disappeared. On blowouts, he's been great.

The Oklahoma State game he looked like he did not want the ball, and that was worrisome. With McLemore, it is less about the player he is now and more about the player he can become. His athletic ability and knock down jump shot make him incredibly intriguing in an NBA that is starved for quality SG's. In the NBA, there are not a lot of shooting guards who combine athletic ability and a very good jump shot.

Oladipo is probably more consistent, but he is also a junior who has played solid minutes for three years in the Big Ten. That is precisely the difference between a freshman and a junior. Few freshman, even the very good one, are really consistent.