Frank Kaminsky

[Johnlac1]

I like Kaminsky, but I'd be surprised if he's not bullied by most NBA bigs. I think he's a 4 who can play a little 5. Towns and Turner are both far better prospects, imo. Turner reminds me so much of LMA.

I like Towns & Turner as well but their game isn't complete. I think they should stay in school and develop their game some more like Kaminsky did. I do agree that Kaminsky has to get stronger and I think that will eventually happen. He still has good size at 7' 0" 245. It doesn't matter what position. Some days he will be able to play Center and some days power forward. Towns has the strength which he is still growing into but his skill set isn't polished and complete compared to Kaminsky's.

Why would lotto picks stay in college to develop their game, when they would just develop their game against the pros?

This idea that people develop their game faster in college vs the greatest league in the world in the NBA is utterly bizarre.

Might be the money angle. Kaminsky might move up in the draft and have a better bargaining position after this year. I've seen virtually all the Badger games this year, and Kaminsky looks better than he did last year. Kaminsky does stuff with the ball I don't recall many players his size doing. Last game against Penn State, twenty feet from the basket, he put the ball behind his back, dribbled into the lane, did a spin move, and made the lay-up.

[god4gives]

keep sleeping dummies. frank da tank is nice

[northpass523]

Kaminsky is a legit player. He gets a lot of shade thrown his way because he's white, he's a senior, and he plays for Wisconsin, but the dude can ball. He regularly looks like the best player on the court, and performs well against other NBA-caliber players, which I think is extremely important and underrated in scouting.

Whoever drafts Kaminsky is going to be happy

[Ruzious]

Kaminsky is a legit player. He gets a lot of shade thrown his way because he's white, he's a senior, and he plays for Wisconsin, but the dude can ball. He regularly looks like the best player on the court, and performs well against other NBA-caliber players, which I think is extremely important and underrated in scouting.

Whoever drafts Kaminsky is going to be happy

I like him, but there are legit concerns about his rebounding and defense against the stronger bigs in the NBA. Still, his nice combo of blocks and steals throughout his college career is a positive indicator for his defensive potential. I like him as a 3rd big - as long as he consistently hits the defensive boards.

[god4gives]

Frank Kaminsky

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/frank-kaminsky

NBA Comparison: Nenad Krstic/Sean Marks
Strengths: At 7-feet, there not many players around with his offensive skill set .... Highly fundamental, Kaminsky has great footwork, can go left and right and does a great job of using his length on offense ... He can finish at the rim with either hand, post up on either block, shoot from the mid-range, consistently knock down 3’s and even attack you from off the dribble ... The lack of quickness and explosiveness is compensated by his high basketball IQ ... He is able to go by defenders on close outs, controlling his body to avoid charges, but also to basically post up from 16/15 feet and slowly back down defenders to the basket ... His shooting touch is what is really intriguing about him ... He didn’t shoot particularly well in the summer camps (adidas Nations) but he has been very consistent during this first part of the season, so far, even from long range, though he needs to get his feet set to be effective ... He is a scoring threat from everywhere on the court ... He loves utilizing his spin move, going back to the middle of the floor, and knows how to use it to be aggressive and shoot over his defender in a similar way of what Dirk does at the NBA level ... Perhaps an area where he is a little underrated is passing, he has great vision of the court and makes really good decision with the ball, at his height he can see the floor really well and that can help in high-low situations, for example ... A perfect guy to play pick and pop, very hard to ICE on ball screens, he spaces the floor well and he is also effective in the post ... In the NBA, he will have to be a 4 offensively, and life will not be as easy to get by opponents, he will need to be a professor and learn all thr tricks with angles and fakes in order to not be neutralized by his lack of athleticism ... Despite that he is 7-foot and able to contest shots in the paint, the long arms help him get many rebounds, but he will have to add strength to hold off NBA players while boxing them out ... 20 years ago his size would probably have made him more appealing, in today quick, athletic game he will have to find the right system in order to show all of his skills offensively ... He also possesses a high character with a lot of personality and confidence ...

Weaknesses: The most obvious one is his subpar level of athleticism and lateral movement, but one of the main concerns with him ironically is on offense ... It’s possible to find a role for him defensively where he won’t be exploited, he has length after all, but will he be able to succeed in an offensive system different from the one he thrives in at Wisconsin? The fact that he struggled so mightily in the wide open format in front of so many scouts at adidas Nations in the summer has to be a conern ... Theoretically he is the perfect guy to play in the triangle offense, in a way that maybe only Pau Gasol did, and certainly he could find his place an offense like the Spurs (every high IQ player could) ... But could he survive in more ISO oriented offenses where he will not have the ball in his hands much? A lot will depend on his consistency shooting, the percentages show us he is improving but the NBA 3 pointer is a different animal and though the high release will help Kaminsky a lot in shooting over people, his release is pretty slow and could be a problem ... The talent is there but he has to show he can use it at the next level, and his limited upside (because he is already almost at the top of his game) and older age might scare some team away (Tyler Zeller was a much better/faster athlete and he fell to 20 as a senior, and has been traded)... Another big question mark is how will he deal with NBA physicality on both ends of the floor ... He could potentially guard 5s but only if he adds strength to his body, while the 4 position could be too fast and explosive for him ... And on offense people may push him out of the blocks too easily ... The fact that he didn;t really do anything in his first two seasons in college is also a slight concern. Is he just a late bloomer, or is he taking advantage of players younger than himself as an upperclassman? ... All that being said, we are talking about a player with a rare set of skills, who in the right system could utilize his abilities and become a great role player ...

[Johnlac1]

Frank Kaminsky

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/frank-kaminsky

NBA Comparison: Nenad Krstic/Sean Marks
Strengths: At 7-feet, there not many players around with his offensive skill set .... Highly fundamental, Kaminsky has great footwork, can go left and right and does a great job of using his length on offense ... He can finish at the rim with either hand, post up on either block, shoot from the mid-range, consistently knock down 3’s and even attack you from off the dribble ... The lack of quickness and explosiveness is compensated by his high basketball IQ ... He is able to go by defenders on close outs, controlling his body to avoid charges, but also to basically post up from 16/15 feet and slowly back down defenders to the basket ... His shooting touch is what is really intriguing about him ... He didn’t shoot particularly well in the summer camps (adidas Nations) but he has been very consistent during this first part of the season, so far, even from long range, though he needs to get his feet set to be effective ... He is a scoring threat from everywhere on the court ... He loves utilizing his spin move, going back to the middle of the floor, and knows how to use it to be aggressive and shoot over his defender in a similar way of what Dirk does at the NBA level ... Perhaps an area where he is a little underrated is passing, he has great vision of the court and makes really good decision with the ball, at his height he can see the floor really well and that can help in high-low situations, for example ... A perfect guy to play pick and pop, very hard to ICE on ball screens, he spaces the floor well and he is also effective in the post ... In the NBA, he will have to be a 4 offensively, and life will not be as easy to get by opponents, he will need to be a professor and learn all thr tricks with angles and fakes in order to not be neutralized by his lack of athleticism ... Despite that he is 7-foot and able to contest shots in the paint, the long arms help him get many rebounds, but he will have to add strength to hold off NBA players while boxing them out ... 20 years ago his size would probably have made him more appealing, in today quick, athletic game he will have to find the right system in order to show all of his skills offensively ... He also possesses a high character with a lot of personality and confidence ...

Weaknesses: The most obvious one is his subpar level of athleticism and lateral movement, but one of the main concerns with him ironically is on offense ... It’s possible to find a role for him defensively where he won’t be exploited, he has length after all, but will he be able to succeed in an offensive system different from the one he thrives in at Wisconsin? The fact that he struggled so mightily in the wide open format in front of so many scouts at adidas Nations in the summer has to be a conern ... Theoretically he is the perfect guy to play in the triangle offense, in a way that maybe only Pau Gasol did, and certainly he could find his place an offense like the Spurs (every high IQ player could) ... But could he survive in more ISO oriented offenses where he will not have the ball in his hands much? A lot will depend on his consistency shooting, the percentages show us he is improving but the NBA 3 pointer is a different animal and though the high release will help Kaminsky a lot in shooting over people, his release is pretty slow and could be a problem ... The talent is there but he has to show he can use it at the next level, and his limited upside (because he is already almost at the top of his game) and older age might scare some team away (Tyler Zeller was a much better/faster athlete and he fell to 20 as a senior, and has been traded)... Another big question mark is how will he deal with NBA physicality on both ends of the floor ... He could potentially guard 5s but only if he adds strength to his body, while the 4 position could be too fast and explosive for him ... And on offense people may push him out of the blocks too easily ... The fact that he didn;t really do anything in his first two seasons in college is also a slight concern. Is he just a late bloomer, or is he taking advantage of players younger than himself as an upperclassman? ... All that being said, we are talking about a player with a rare set of skills, who in the right system could utilize his abilities and become a great role player ...

I guess I disagree with the "Tyler Zeller is a much better athlete" statement. Certainly, Frank has his faults, but I don't see his as much different from Zeller athletically.
For some reason a number of people think Kaminsky is a poor athlete. He's not a great athlete but he's not poor. He has excellent coordination and skills. And he can get off his feet. Again, in a league where Zaza Pachulia is a starting center (and Kaminsky definitely moves better than Zaza), Kaminsky certainly is athletic enough to play center.
And again, def. will present him more of a problem than off. contrary to what the report says. He's not real strong. However, he is a good rebounder. A little stronger, and he could play against many of the league's centers. He'll never be a superstar, but he could end up getting a lot of minutes for the right team.

[god4gives]

Frank Kaminsky

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/frank-kaminsky

NBA Comparison: Nenad Krstic/Sean Marks
Strengths: At 7-feet, there not many players around with his offensive skill set .... Highly fundamental, Kaminsky has great footwork, can go left and right and does a great job of using his length on offense ... He can finish at the rim with either hand, post up on either block, shoot from the mid-range, consistently knock down 3’s and even attack you from off the dribble ... The lack of quickness and explosiveness is compensated by his high basketball IQ ... He is able to go by defenders on close outs, controlling his body to avoid charges, but also to basically post up from 16/15 feet and slowly back down defenders to the basket ... His shooting touch is what is really intriguing about him ... He didn’t shoot particularly well in the summer camps (adidas Nations) but he has been very consistent during this first part of the season, so far, even from long range, though he needs to get his feet set to be effective ... He is a scoring threat from everywhere on the court ... He loves utilizing his spin move, going back to the middle of the floor, and knows how to use it to be aggressive and shoot over his defender in a similar way of what Dirk does at the NBA level ... Perhaps an area where he is a little underrated is passing, he has great vision of the court and makes really good decision with the ball, at his height he can see the floor really well and that can help in high-low situations, for example ... A perfect guy to play pick and pop, very hard to ICE on ball screens, he spaces the floor well and he is also effective in the post ... In the NBA, he will have to be a 4 offensively, and life will not be as easy to get by opponents, he will need to be a professor and learn all thr tricks with angles and fakes in order to not be neutralized by his lack of athleticism ... Despite that he is 7-foot and able to contest shots in the paint, the long arms help him get many rebounds, but he will have to add strength to hold off NBA players while boxing them out ... 20 years ago his size would probably have made him more appealing, in today quick, athletic game he will have to find the right system in order to show all of his skills offensively ... He also possesses a high character with a lot of personality and confidence ...

Weaknesses: The most obvious one is his subpar level of athleticism and lateral movement, but one of the main concerns with him ironically is on offense ... It’s possible to find a role for him defensively where he won’t be exploited, he has length after all, but will he be able to succeed in an offensive system different from the one he thrives in at Wisconsin? The fact that he struggled so mightily in the wide open format in front of so many scouts at adidas Nations in the summer has to be a conern ... Theoretically he is the perfect guy to play in the triangle offense, in a way that maybe only Pau Gasol did, and certainly he could find his place an offense like the Spurs (every high IQ player could) ... But could he survive in more ISO oriented offenses where he will not have the ball in his hands much? A lot will depend on his consistency shooting, the percentages show us he is improving but the NBA 3 pointer is a different animal and though the high release will help Kaminsky a lot in shooting over people, his release is pretty slow and could be a problem ... The talent is there but he has to show he can use it at the next level, and his limited upside (because he is already almost at the top of his game) and older age might scare some team away (Tyler Zeller was a much better/faster athlete and he fell to 20 as a senior, and has been traded)... Another big question mark is how will he deal with NBA physicality on both ends of the floor ... He could potentially guard 5s but only if he adds strength to his body, while the 4 position could be too fast and explosive for him ... And on offense people may push him out of the blocks too easily ... The fact that he didn;t really do anything in his first two seasons in college is also a slight concern. Is he just a late bloomer, or is he taking advantage of players younger than himself as an upperclassman? ... All that being said, we are talking about a player with a rare set of skills, who in the right system could utilize his abilities and become a great role player ...

I guess I disagree with the "Tyler Zeller is a much better athlete" statement. Certainly, Frank has his faults, but I don't see his as much different from Zeller athletically.
For some reason a number of people think Kaminsky is a poor athlete. He's not a great athlete but he's not poor. He has excellent coordination and skills. And he can get off his feet. Again, in a league where Zaza Pachulia is a starting center (and Kaminsky definitely moves better than Zaza), Kaminsky certainly is athletic enough to play center.
And again, def. will present him more of a problem than off. contrary to what the report says. He's not real strong. However, he is a good rebounder. A little stronger, and he could play against many of the league's centers. He'll never be a superstar, but he could end up getting a lot of minutes for the right team.

I concur for the most part of what you said. I think Kaminsky is a good athlete actually. Last game he played he was running down the court like a point guard that he use to be throwing alleys. There are plenty of times I've seen Kaminsky steal the ball from the top of the key running fast down the court and throwing it down. I recall a tip jam he had a couple of games ago to. He improved his athleticism and look like he wants to improve some more. He definitely needs to get stronger and gain about 10-15 pounds of muscle but he still has good size at 7' 0" 245. He's not that explosive but I think he's still fast on his feet and move very fluid.



anyway

it's nbadraft.net

If you knew about that site you would know that they make a lot of bogus comparisons. They compared Adam Morrison to Larry Bird. Go figure but sometimes they're on point. It's a hit or miss with them and i think they missed comparing Kaminsky to Nenad Kristic & Sean Marks. I like that site because they do a great job of listing players strengths & weaknesses but it's also a hit or miss with that to. I'm think Kaminsky is a better version of Olynyk and I'm not scared to say i see a little bit of Dirk Nowitzki and Marc Gasol in his game.

[DickGrayson]

A prospect like this, shows great ability to score, play in the paint, good jump shot, fundamentals, can rebound.

We always see guys like this, my question is

How well does he pass and defend the basketball.

Nick Collison is a guy who made such an impact on all his teams for being a great defender/rebounder/intangibles guy.

I don't think Frank will ever be a #1 option in the NBA so the question is what can he do besides look pretty on offense?

[god4gives]

A prospect like this, shows great ability to score, play in the paint, good jump shot, fundamentals, can rebound.

We always see guys like this, my question is

How well does he pass and defend the basketball.

Nick Collison is a guy who made such an impact on all his teams for being a great defender/rebounder/intangibles guy.

I don't think Frank will ever be a #1 option in the NBA so the question is what can he do besides look pretty on offense?

Frank Da Tank passes very well, better than OK4 and Towns. Kaminsky use to be a point guard before he had a huge growth spurt. He's more versatile than Towns while OK4 is one dimensional. He's a better defender and rim protector than OK4 who has a longer wingspan & reach. Anything can happen in the draft. Just because Knicks have the worst record doesn't mean that we will get the top 1st or 2nd pick. If Knicks end up with the 3rd pick it's no doubt in my mind P-Jax will select Frank Da Tank. Out of all the centers/ power forwards, his game fits the Triangle perfectly. He's a much better version of Kelly Olynyk with a little bit of Dirk Nowitzki and Marc Gasol in his game. Kaminsky is being criminally slept on and that's a shame because he's the only center besides OK4 that made the all american team and is mentioned in the same discussions with OK4 about the Wooden Award. He's definitely better than Cauley-Stein and Myles Turner

[DickGrayson]

A prospect like this, shows great ability to score, play in the paint, good jump shot, fundamentals, can rebound.

We always see guys like this, my question is

How well does he pass and defend the basketball.

Nick Collison is a guy who made such an impact on all his teams for being a great defender/rebounder/intangibles guy.

I don't think Frank will ever be a #1 option in the NBA so the question is what can he do besides look pretty on offense?

Frank Da Tank passes very well, better than OK4 and Towns. Kaminsky use to be a point guard before he had a huge growth spurt. He's more versatile than Towns while OK4 is one dimensional. He's a better defender and rim protector than OK4 who has a longer wingspan & reach. Anything can happen in the draft. Just because Knicks have the worst record doesn't mean that we will get the top 1st or 2nd pick. If Knicks end up with the 3rd pick it's no doubt in my mind P-Jax will select Frank Da Tank. Out of all the centers/ power forwards, his game fits the Triangle perfectly. He's a much better version of Kelly Olynyk with a little bit of Dirk Nowitzki and Marc Gasol in his game. Kaminsky is being criminally slept on and that's a shame because he's the only center besides OK4 that made the all american team and is mentioned in the same discussions with OK4 about the Wooden Award. He's definitely better than Cauley-Stein and Myles Turner

so he has no weaknesses Im assuming?

[treefi]

I'm not sleeping on him. Lottery pick, as high as #7 or so... Could sneak into the top 5 with a Final 4 run.

[Marcus]

A prospect like this, shows great ability to score, play in the paint, good jump shot, fundamentals, can rebound.

We always see guys like this, my question is

How well does he pass and defend the basketball.

Nick Collison is a guy who made such an impact on all his teams for being a great defender/rebounder/intangibles guy.

I don't think Frank will ever be a #1 option in the NBA so the question is what can he do besides look pretty on offense?

Frank Da Tank passes very well, better than OK4 and Towns. Kaminsky use to be a point guard before he had a huge growth spurt. He's more versatile than Towns while OK4 is one dimensional. He's a better defender and rim protector than OK4 who has a longer wingspan & reach. Anything can happen in the draft. Just because Knicks have the worst record doesn't mean that we will get the top 1st or 2nd pick. If Knicks end up with the 3rd pick it's no doubt in my mind P-Jax will select Frank Da Tank. Out of all the centers/ power forwards, his game fits the Triangle perfectly. He's a much better version of Kelly Olynyk with a little bit of Dirk Nowitzki and Marc Gasol in his game. Kaminsky is being criminally slept on and that's a shame because he's the only center besides OK4 that made the all american team and is mentioned in the same discussions with OK4 about the Wooden Award. He's definitely better than Cauley-Stein and Myles Turner

so he has no weaknesses Im assuming?

not terribly strong for the position which is why he may play some 4 at the next level. not terribly quick laterally though he has def improved in that this year. won't really be a rim protector can be effective like Jah at the next level by just being as long as possible and apply the Hibbert school of defense.

Frank looks like a first year contributor, a high post weapon with some PnP capabilities, good passer, much better ballhandler than he's given credit for, decent low post set, very smart player. When I watched the game V Duke he reminded me of Duncan with his elbow play, passing, and high IQ.

If he lands somewhere that will allow him to use his skillset he can definitely be better than expected.

[Johnlac1]

Frank Da Tank passes very well, better than OK4 and Towns. Kaminsky use to be a point guard before he had a huge growth spurt. He's more versatile than Towns while OK4 is one dimensional. He's a better defender and rim protector than OK4 who has a longer wingspan & reach. Anything can happen in the draft. Just because Knicks have the worst record doesn't mean that we will get the top 1st or 2nd pick. If Knicks end up with the 3rd pick it's no doubt in my mind P-Jax will select Frank Da Tank. Out of all the centers/ power forwards, his game fits the Triangle perfectly. He's a much better version of Kelly Olynyk with a little bit of Dirk Nowitzki and Marc Gasol in his game. Kaminsky is being criminally slept on and that's a shame because he's the only center besides OK4 that made the all american team and is mentioned in the same discussions with OK4 about the Wooden Award. He's definitely better than Cauley-Stein and Myles Turner

so he has no weaknesses Im assuming?

not terribly strong for the position which is why he may play some 4 at the next level. not terribly quick laterally though he has def improved in that this year. won't really be a rim protector can be effective like Jah at the next level by just being as long as possible and apply the Hibbert school of defense.

Frank looks like a first year contributor, a high post weapon with some PnP capabilities, good passer, much better ballhandler than he's given credit for, decent low post set, very smart player. When I watched the game V Duke he reminded me of Duncan with his elbow play, passing, and high IQ.

If he lands somewhere that will allow him to use his skillset he can definitely be better than expected.

As a Bucks fan, we could do a lot worse than to end up with Frank as our no. one pick. If he can play center without getting muscled out of the way, his ability to hit the outside shot means shot-blocker centers will have to go out of the lane to guard him. That will leave the lane open for Giannis and Parker to wreak havoc. Right now Zaza is our center. He is a good passer and can hit the 15 foot jump shot, but that's it. He has very poor post up skills. Way too slow. He's almost a zero scoring threat.
Frank would be a much more dynamic off. player for us. But Pachulia is strong enough to keep from getting manhandled, and that is something Kaminsky might have to work on.

[BoutPractice]

I'm usually low on seniors, but Kaminsky should be one of the best value picks in this year's draft.

His floor is pretty high - a legit 7 footer who can shoot the 3 reliably is always going to find a place in the league. He's having success doing things you could picture him actually being asked to do in the NBA. At the same time, he might have star potential... he looks better with the ball in his hands and in the post than I remembered him, "quicker" and more explosive in his movements too. Not sure yet on this one, but I can't be categorically sure that he won't be a star (of course I'm thinking more say Okur than Dirk, despite the comical resemblance in their names / appearance), while being close to certain there's a niche for him in the NBA regardless.

You're never 100% sure, but if you have to look at the probabilities FK falls under given categories from bust to star, the risk profile is very attractive I'd say.

[god4gives]

Frank da Tank does not have poor post skills. He's not as good as OK4 in the post but he's still above average and very effective in the paint. He's still bigger and quicker than some centers in the NBA that are shorter and weigh less. He can play Center & quick enough to play Power Forward since he gave Aaron Gordon whose faster and more athletic problems during the final four last year. Arizona Wildcats had a hard time guarding him. He can score just as good if not better than OK4. Their numbers aren't that far apart. Kaminsky is a better rim protector and willing defender as well. Plus he gets more steals than all of the top centers that will be in the draft. He just needs to work on his strength. Kaminsky is going to transition well into the NBA because his game isn't one dimensional. I can't wait to see how he performs again when the tourney begins. His stock is going to keep on rising and people will take notice more than they did last year. I don't care what no short sighted idiot say. Frank Da Tank is the truth and very underrated.

[Chuck Everett]

You guys are in for a big shock when he gets to the league. There will be zero putting of the ball on the floor. He is not a rim protector at all, so he's going to have to make his living as a stretch 4. Can he guard anyone? Doubtful. The team that takes him in the lottery will be complaining two years later.

[DickGrayson]

Frank da Tank does not have poor post skills. He's not as good as OK4 in the post but he's still above average and very effective in the paint. He's still bigger and quicker than some centers in the NBA that are shorter and weigh less. He can play Center & quick enough to play Power Forward since he gave Aaron Gordon whose faster and more athletic problems during the final four last year. Arizona Wildcats had a hard time guarding him. He can score just as good if not better than OK4. Their numbers aren't that far apart. Kaminsky is a better rim protector and willing defender as well. Plus he gets more steals than all of the top centers that will be in the draft. He just needs to work on his strength. Kaminsky is going to transition well into the NBA because his game isn't one dimensional. I can't wait to see how he performs again when the tourney begins. His stock is going to keep on rising and people will take notice more than they did last year. I don't care what no short sighted idiot say. Frank Da Tank is the truth and very underrated.

Wasn't Gordon a raw freshman last year? That's not really a feat. It's safe to say you're over promoting Frank.

[god4gives]

Frank da Tank does not have poor post skills. He's not as good as OK4 in the post but he's still above average and very effective in the paint. He's still bigger and quicker than some centers in the NBA that are shorter and weigh less. He can play Center & quick enough to play Power Forward since he gave Aaron Gordon whose faster and more athletic problems during the final four last year. Arizona Wildcats had a hard time guarding him. He can score just as good if not better than OK4. Their numbers aren't that far apart. Kaminsky is a better rim protector and willing defender as well. Plus he gets more steals than all of the top centers that will be in the draft. He just needs to work on his strength. Kaminsky is going to transition well into the NBA because his game isn't one dimensional. I can't wait to see how he performs again when the tourney begins. His stock is going to keep on rising and people will take notice more than they did last year. I don't care what no short sighted idiot say. Frank Da Tank is the truth and very underrated.

Wasn't Gordon a raw freshman last year? That's not really a feat. It's safe to say you're over promoting Frank.

yes gordon was a freshman and it doesn't change the fact that kaminsky outplayed a more athletic team that was rated number 1. He's not promoted enough compared to the overrated ok4 and towns. he's more skilled and better than guys to me

[Marcus]

yes gordon was a freshman and it doesn't change the fact that kaminsky outplayed a more athletic team that was rated number 1. He's not promoted enough compared to the overrated ok4 and towns. he's more skilled and better than guys to me

what makes Okafor overrated?

[god4gives]

yes gordon was a freshman and it doesn't change the fact that kaminsky outplayed a more athletic team that was rated number 1. He's not promoted enough compared to the overrated ok4 and towns. he's more skilled and better than guys to me

what makes Okafor overrated?

He's being compared to tim duncan who's a much better rim protector and defender. OK4 is a below average defender for his size. many are saying that his ceiling is high but he's close to a finish product which is why his game is one dimensional