2019 Draft Class - Part 2

[nolang1]

lol trae, steph Garland kyrie all have small hands

non issue...hand size has more to do with dunking and catching than dribbling...u don't really palm when u dribble

Yes and Zion does more dunking and catching than dribbling. Also have you watched Kevin Durant play ever? He palms the ball quite a bit when he dribbles.

NO IVE NEVER SEEN KEVIN DURANT PLAY.

Clearly not too closely, he commits numerous uncalled palming violations per game.

[clyde21]

Yes and Zion does more dunking and catching than dribbling. Also have you watched Kevin Durant play ever? He palms the ball quite a bit when he dribbles.

NO IVE NEVER SEEN KEVIN DURANT PLAY.

Clearly not, he commits numerous uncalled palming violations per game.

Right, and those are violations. That's exactly my point. Palming isn't a part of dribbling at all, and if it is, you have problems.

if you're having a hard time following along I suggest reading the last page again.

[nolang1]

NO IVE NEVER SEEN KEVIN DURANT PLAY.

Clearly not, he commits numerous uncalled palming violations per game.

Right, and those are violations. That's exactly my point. Palming isn't a part of dribbling at all, and if it is, you have problems.

if you're having a hard time following along I suggest reading the last page again.

What kind of world are you living in where the NBA calls palming/carrying violations on a regular basis? Obviously palming the basketball gives you more control of it and there's zero downside as long as you aren't doing it in the most egregious, exaggerated fashion possible.

[Duke4life831]

Thought this was a good video. Really kind of put into perspective just how dominant Zion's season was.

Watch on YouTube

[MartinsIzAfraud]

if anyone 13-15 takes NAW we're fighting.... Magic must get him at 16

[clyde21]

Clearly not, he commits numerous uncalled palming violations per game.

Right, and those are violations. That's exactly my point. Palming isn't a part of dribbling at all, and if it is, you have problems.

if you're having a hard time following along I suggest reading the last page again.

What kind of world are you living in where the NBA calls palming/carrying violations on a regular basis? Obviously palming the basketball gives you more control of it and there's zero downside as long as you aren't doing it in the most egregious, exaggerated fashion possible.

Yeah, no ****, if it's done extremely ambiguously. What does that have to do with the discussion? This is about Zion's 'small hands' preventing him from being a good dribble. You don't need to palm the basketball like Kawhi to be a good dribbler. It's nonsense.

[GimmeDat]

So looks like KPJ's going to slide.. wasn't one of the 20 green room invites. Teams must be scared off by the character issues that appear to have been pretty bad at USC. It's funny because I find him pretty presentable in his pre-draft interviews.

Wonder how far he'll slide.

[Yuri Vaultin]

Who's going to be the better NBA player and why: Grant Williams, Rui or Kabengele?

[eminence]

Who's going to be the better NBA player and why: Grant Williams, Rui or Kabengele?

I'm a Williams guy through and through. Dude's got heart and plays incredibly hard. Strong, decently mobile, shooting touch that can hopefully extend to 3. Know how to play, almost always in the right spot on either end.

[GimmeDat]

Who's going to be the better NBA player and why: Grant Williams, Rui or Kabengele?

Williams is quite clearly in the front of that group, imo

[Roddy B for 3]

Who's going to be the better NBA player and why: Grant Williams, Rui or Kabengele?

Rui. Best fast break player of them all, definitely a better perimeter defender than Grant (probably Kabengele too). Rui has the most accomplished three point shot of them all.

So, best
-perimeter defender
-fast break player
-three point shooter

Rui also has a sick mid-range pull up.

[916fan]

Am I the only one in the world who kinda still likes Happ?

Yep. My Happ ship sailed after his sophomore year when I realized he put absolutely 0 work into his shooting. He had a total of 5 years to add 3pt shooting to his arsenal...yet never did it. Somehow, his FT shooting also went into complete trash. Started at 64.3% but then went into 50%(LOL WTH), 55%(HOW??), and now 46.6%( )

That's honestly been so infuriating given his overall profile and potential. I was very high on him, but he's severely let me down to the point where I think he'll have a good career in Europe.

[pad300]

Who's going to be the better NBA player and why: Grant Williams, Rui or Kabengele?

Contrary to several opinion above, I might just take Kabengele.

Grant Williams has physical limitations. If he can't transition to the 3, then at 4 he's going to have issues in the NBA - like finishing over and defending guys a lot bigger than him... who may be better athletes. If he does transition to the 3, he's got athleticism issues... He will have issues defensively at either position. Overall as a player, his biggest asset is his BBIQ, which is going to be less effective in a league that is smarter and better coached (& scouted) than college. He also needs a 3ptr (again, not demonstrated to my mind) to open up his offense...

Rui could be really good, but again, to reach peak value, he needs to become a 3. He hasn't, to my mind, shown the skill level to play 3 in the NBA yet. At 4 (NBA), he's got a mild athleticism advantage but no size advantage nor anything really special as NBA skills. Skills can be developed though, and he would have a significant size advantage at 3.

Kabengele on the other, IMO, can play 4 in the NBA. His feet are quick enough. At 4 he has a size and strength advantage. Combined with the fact that he can shoot the 3 (projects better than either Grant or Rui http://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=rui-hachimura--mfiondu-kabengele--grant-williams ), he can play on the perimeter. Yeah, he a black hole for passing, but a 4 with his size and shooting can just be a finisher, and that's fine. He's got + defender physical edge, which I don't think I can say for either Williams or Hachi (esp. at the 4...).

[No-Man]

Kabengele is going to get overdrafted by like 30 spots easily

[CP War Hawks]

Who's going to be the better NBA player and why: Grant Williams, Rui or Kabengele?

Rui. Best fast break player of them all, definitely a better perimeter defender than Grant (probably Kabengele too). Rui has the most accomplished three point shot of them all.

So, best
-perimeter defender
-fast break player
-three point shooter

Rui also has a sick mid-range pull up.

It's an 1a-1c type of separation with Rui up there for me as well. He probably has the best mid range game in the draft to go along with his huge frame. Williams has the same physical profile as Semi Ojeleye. Kab should be a solid big role player ala Dedmon.

[clyde21]

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[Chuck Everett]

Don't like Grant Williams. Too short to play in the paint in the NBA without getting his shot blocked a lot. I saw zero perimeter skills at Tennessee.

[Chuck Everett]

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[Roddy B for 3]

Who's going to be the better NBA player and why: Grant Williams, Rui or Kabengele?

Rui. Best fast break player of them all, definitely a better perimeter defender than Grant (probably Kabengele too). Rui has the most accomplished three point shot of them all.

So, best
-perimeter defender
-fast break player
-three point shooter

Rui also has a sick mid-range pull up.

It's an 1a-1c type of separation with Rui up there for me as well. He probably has the best mid range game in the draft to go along with his huge frame. Williams has the same physical profile as Semi Ojeleye. Kab should be a solid big role player ala Dedmon.

Grant Williams is one of my favorite college players ever. It's very rare to see a player with his post skills, and he can stretch the floor a little bit.

I had Tennessee in the final four on my bracket. I really do like to watch Grant Williams play basketball.

He reminds me of Thomas Robinson though way to small to play his game at the next level.

[PhilBlackson]

No draft rumors circulating yet??