James Wiseman

[clyde21]

more Deandre Ayton to me than any of these other names being thrown out, not as athletic as Ayton and Ayton was more sophisticated offensively, but Wiseman has better defensive instincts

i think he'll be a less variance version of Ayton

[atlantabbq99]

I don't see Ayton or David Robinson in him. He looks more like Alonzo Mourning.

[No-Man]

Looking at only limited tape, I'd say his talent level is at least on par with Deandre Jordan, but he has a bit more motor, a little more length, and maybe a bit more IQ. He'll give you rebounding, rim protection, rim running, roll finishes and great size inside if he's really 7'1". His motor and athleticism overall are better than Whiteside. He's a safe top-3 pick in this draft though his feel for the game seems pretty basic.

he def has a way worse motor than DAJ, not even close, esp on offense

Jordan also a way better athlete, just coordination wise, power, etc, DAJ was okay with his role too, didn't try to do dumb ****

[No-Man]

more Deandre Ayton to me than any of these other names being thrown out, not as athletic as Ayton and Ayton was more sophisticated offensively, but Wiseman has better defensive instincts

i think he'll be a less variance version of Ayton

They are like nothing alike, Ayton had more moves, more upright, they have different bodies in general, Ayton much stronger lower body for example

[Wilber85]

more Deandre Ayton to me than any of these other names being thrown out, not as athletic as Ayton and Ayton was more sophisticated offensively, but Wiseman has better defensive instincts

i think he'll be a less variance version of Ayton

They are like nothing alike, Ayton had more moves, more upright, they have different bodies in general, Ayton much stronger lower body for example

Also Ayton defense is coming around! Ayton > Wiseman

[The-Power]

DAJ was okay with his role too, didn't try to do dumb ****

Wiseman in his few college games did exactly what you could have expected of him, and that is dominating inside without trying to be too fancy – just feasting around the basket and on the glass, with an occasional jumper. Overall he couldn't have been playing more to his strengths, some stupid decisions that all young top-prospects have notwithstanding. But I feel like we had this exact argument before.

[No-Man]

DAJ was okay with his role too, didn't try to do dumb ****

Wiseman in his few college games did exactly what you could have expected of him, and that is dominating inside without trying to be too fancy – just feasting around the basket and on the glass, with an occasional jumper. Overall he couldn't have been playing more to his strengths, some stupid decisions that all young top-prospects have notwithstanding. But I feel like we had this exact argument before.

I disagree there were more than one instance when he tried like turn around mid post jumpers and weird **** like that, and it was super present through his HS tape too, which obviously is more representative than him dominating inside against 6'6 to 6'8 dudes and struggling against Oregon

That's not even that important anyway, the issue with him isn't only based on demeanor, it's about skill level

I am not drafting DeAndre Jordan top5 in any Draft, even if that's what you would project Wiseman to be (I disagree but that's besides the point)

[HeadtopChunes]

anybody got any good links to articles or videos about Wiseman in high school? I already read all of vecenies stuff

[Catchall]

Looking at only limited tape, I'd say his talent level is at least on par with Deandre Jordan, but he has a bit more motor, a little more length, and maybe a bit more IQ. He'll give you rebounding, rim protection, rim running, roll finishes and great size inside if he's really 7'1". His motor and athleticism overall are better than Whiteside. He's a safe top-3 pick in this draft though his feel for the game seems pretty basic.

he def has a way worse motor than DAJ, not even close, esp on offense

Jordan also a way better athlete, just coordination wise, power, etc, DAJ was okay with his role too, didn't try to do dumb ****

I'll go ahead and disagree with everything you've said here. I know Wiseman only played a few games this year, but his production was dramatically better than Deandre Jordan in college. He's a better prospect than DAJ was. I was comparing their athleticism and their role.

[EvanZ]

Seems like he's more 30-year old Dwight than anyone else I see being referenced. A bit taller, but that's not going to make much of a material difference.

[atlantabbq99]

I hate the DeAndre Jordan comparisons to Wiseman. DeAndre Jordan is such a negative on offense, while Wiseman will at least be able to shoot above 70% from the free throw line like Mutombo and Alonzo Mourning.

[getrichordie]

anybody got any good links to articles or videos about Wiseman in high school? I already read all of vecenies stuff

Watch on YouTube

crazy finish at the end.

[No-Man]

DeAndre Jordan was the best offensive Center in basketball for a couple years in his athletic prime, and yeah, he wasn't good at A&M and he was still on a different planet athletically compared to Wiseman, who has bad timing, needs to load up to explode off the floor, and is pretty bad moving around aside from going on a straight lane running the floor in transition

Wiseman is a really good athlete for his size, don't get me wrong, but DAJ is historically great

[UcanUwill]

DeAndre Jordan was the best offensive Center in basketball for a couple years

Hm, what?

[EMG518]

DeAndre Jordan was the best offensive Center in basketball for a couple years

Hm, what?

I think he thinks he was the best offensive center because he had a historic fg% run but in reality it was limited attempts around the basket, within like 6 feet and he had one of the best point guards ever with him for most of that. He was one of the best at fulfilling his portion of the offense statistically.

[atlantabbq99]

DeAndre Jordan was the best offensive Center in basketball for a couple years

Hm, what?

I think he thinks he was the best offensive center because he had a historic fg% run but in reality it was limited attempts around the basket, within like 6 feet and he had one of the best point guards ever with him for most of that. He was one of the best at fulfilling his portion of the offense statistically.

Jordan was the 6th option on offense and only caught lobs from CP3 and was shooting 40% from the free throw line with alot of teams giving him the hack-a-jordan treatment.

It is not hard to have 70% FG if you are just standing around watching CP3 create and catching lobs 2 feet from the basket.

[crows2]

DAJ was okay with his role too, didn't try to do dumb ****

Wiseman in his few college games did exactly what you could have expected of him, and that is dominating inside without trying to be too fancy – just feasting around the basket and on the glass, with an occasional jumper. Overall he couldn't have been playing more to his strengths, some stupid decisions that all young top-prospects have notwithstanding. But I feel like we had this exact argument before.

I disagree there were more than one instance when he tried like turn around mid post jumpers and weird **** like that, and it was super present through his HS tape too, which obviously is more representative than him dominating inside against 6'6 to 6'8 dudes and struggling against Oregon

That's not even that important anyway, the issue with him isn't only based on demeanor, it's about skill level

I am not drafting DeAndre Jordan top5 in any Draft, even if that's what you would project Wiseman to be (I disagree but that's besides the point)

If Wiseman shot 77% with poor shot selection, imagine what he would’ve shot if he improved his shot selection!

I’m only being semi-serious btw. The sample size is obviously far too small, but that should be acknowledged for his negatives as well as his positives. Freshman rarely, if ever, have perfect shot selection in their first three games of college.

[UcanUwill]

Hm, what?

I think he thinks he was the best offensive center because he had a historic fg% run but in reality it was limited attempts around the basket, within like 6 feet and he had one of the best point guards ever with him for most of that. He was one of the best at fulfilling his portion of the offense statistically.

Jordan was the 6th option on offense and only caught lobs from CP3 and was shooting 40% from the free throw line with alot of teams giving him the hack-a-jordan treatment.

It is not hard to have 70% FG if you are just standing around watching CP3 create and catching lobs 2 feet from the basket.

I think the only argument was that he was great offensive rebounder, but that doesnt make him some kind of great offensive player. Maybe he meant he was best defensive player, which is at least debatable. Offensively he was the key reason why dick fans wanted rule change to protect hack-a-shaq(denadre) players. he was inept on that end and was lucky to play with all time great level passing PF and PG.

[Nazrmohamed]

DeAndre Jordan was the best offensive Center in basketball for a couple years in his athletic prime, and yeah, he wasn't good at A&M and he was still on a different planet athletically compared to Wiseman, who has bad timing, needs to load up to explode off the floor, and is pretty bad moving around aside from going on a straight lane running the floor in transition

Wiseman is a really good athlete for his size, don't get me wrong, but DAJ is historically great

Thank you. Idk why Deandres name is being thrown around like the bottom of the barrel option got someone to turn out to. Unless that's the good thing I'd that that's Wisemans floor. Jordan was a dominant player during his prime and was dominant at what the nba needs bigs to be dominant at. It's not like (using his prime as a base) Centers that are more talented are out here winning games. Being more talented than his skillset is almost counter productive to what coaches wanna do.

[The-Power]

DAJ offensive profile is similar to Tyson Chandler and Mitchell Robinson, statistically. A useful offensive player for sure and a ceiling raiser next to great offensive players, but hardly one of the best for his position.