Egor Demin - BYU

CptCrunch · Post #61 » by **CptCrunch** » Tue Jan 7, 2025 7:59 pm

I don't care about this guy's recent stats. They'll recover eventually perhaps not to his season start.

He is the most pro style looking point guard/forward you will see. He looks like Sengun passing except with way more perimeter dribbling skills. There are fewer than 5 forwards in the league right now regularly making passes he has made thus far.

Egor's floor is 10th; no way to get lower.

Look at this tape and tell me he doesn't look the part of a pro.

Watch on YouTube

;t=216s

tontoz · Post #62 » by **tontoz** » Tue Jan 7, 2025 9:07 pm

I dont care about his highlights against Colgate. When i watch him against legit comp he doesn't look like his handles will hold up in the NBA in a primary role. He doesn't look like much of a threat as an off ball scorer either.

Catchall · Post #63 » by **Catchall** » Tue Jan 7, 2025 10:09 pm

JMAC3 wrote:Kyle Anderson 2.0? idk enough about him to really label him but from reading other comments it seems in line.

Franz Wagner if he can shoot. Hopefully something close to Jalen Johnson if he can't.

HadAnEffectHere · Post #64 » by **HadAnEffectHere** » Wed Jan 8, 2025 2:00 pm

Catchall wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:Kyle Anderson 2.0? idk enough about him to really label him but from reading other comments it seems in line.

Franz Wagner if he can shoot. Hopefully something close to Jalen Johnson if he can't.

Poor man's Josh Giddey

JMAC3 · Post #65 » by **JMAC3** » Wed Jan 8, 2025 3:04 pm

Catchall wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:Kyle Anderson 2.0? idk enough about him to really label him but from reading other comments it seems in line.

Franz Wagner if he can shoot. Hopefully something close to Jalen Johnson if he can't.

These seem wildly high

sisibilio · Post #66 » by **sisibilio** » Wed Jan 8, 2025 7:17 pm

HadAnEffectHere wrote:
Catchall wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:Kyle Anderson 2.0? idk enough about him to really label him but from reading other comments it seems in line.

Franz Wagner if he can shoot. Hopefully something close to Jalen Johnson if he can't.

Poor man's Josh Giddey

Poor man's Sergio de Larrea.

BlazersBroncos · Post #67 » by **BlazersBroncos** » Wed Jan 8, 2025 8:12 pm

Marko Jaric? Similar size, not a huge scorer, could defend quite well, nice secondary facilitator.

I think Demin has better potential than the raw stats Jaric put up but maybe a Jaric that was in the 20-25 range of usage rather than 12-18 (Which is wildly low for a guy that played lead as much as Jaric - not sure how that is even possible).

Jstock12 · Post #68 » by **Jstock12** » Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:24 pm

peZt wrote:Will probably end up a Top 4 pick at worst when its all said and done

Knicks365247 wrote:He's a lock top 3 pick I'd say.
1. Ace
2. Flagg
3. Demin and whoever drafts him will be THRILLED with him.

Jstock12 · Post #69 » by **Jstock12** » Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:35 pm

Jstock12 wrote:Don't be surprised if Demin's 3PT% drops to the low 30s by the end of the season. He has always been an around ~30% 3PT shooter prior to the start of this season. Playmaking is still an undeniable skill of his, but the defense can be putrid and if he starts missing from three, his draft stock might start to plummet.

azcatz11 · Post #70 » by **azcatz11** » Sun Mar 23, 2025 4:43 am

CptCrunch wrote:I don't care about this guy's recent stats. They'll recover eventually perhaps not to his season start.

He is the most pro style looking point guard/forward you will see. He looks like Sengun passing except with way more perimeter dribbling skills. There are fewer than 5 forwards in the league right now regularly making passes he has made thus far.

Egor's floor is 10th; no way to get lower.

Look at this tape and tell me he doesn't look the part of a pro.

Watch on YouTube
;t=216s

Do you still feel this way? He hit a somewhat clutch shot with like a minute to go tonight.

I don't really think he impacts the game all that much. His shooting numbers are even worse however his shot is clearly not broken. Some team is going to draft him top 15 I think and he may be good in like 5 years

Chuck Everett · Post #71 » by **Chuck Everett** » Sun Mar 23, 2025 4:48 am

azcatz11 wrote:
CptCrunch wrote:I don't care about this guy's recent stats. They'll recover eventually perhaps not to his season start.

He is the most pro style looking point guard/forward you will see. He looks like Sengun passing except with way more perimeter dribbling skills. There are fewer than 5 forwards in the league right now regularly making passes he has made thus far.

Egor's floor is 10th; no way to get lower.

Look at this tape and tell me he doesn't look the part of a pro.

Watch on YouTube
;t=216s

Do you still feel this way? He hit a somewhat clutch shot with like a minute to go tonight.

I don't really think he impacts the game all that much. His shooting numbers are even worse however his shot is clearly not broken. Some team is going to draft him top 15 I think and he may be good in like 5 years

He gets stronger/working with a pro development staff and you're basically looking at Avdija and Wagner all over again. This guy is easily a lotto pick as a secondary creator from the wing.

CptCrunch · Post #72 » by **CptCrunch** » Sun Mar 23, 2025 11:11 am

Egor has super high ceiling. His play making talent is undeniably top tier NBA, top 10 in the league from day one.

SeattleJazzFan · Post #73 » by **SeattleJazzFan** » Sun Mar 23, 2025 2:34 pm

azcatz11 wrote:
CptCrunch wrote:I don't care about this guy's recent stats. They'll recover eventually perhaps not to his season start.

He is the most pro style looking point guard/forward you will see. He looks like Sengun passing except with way more perimeter dribbling skills. There are fewer than 5 forwards in the league right now regularly making passes he has made thus far.

Egor's floor is 10th; no way to get lower.

Look at this tape and tell me he doesn't look the part of a pro.

Watch on YouTube
;t=216s

Do you still feel this way? He hit a somewhat clutch shot with like a minute to go tonight.

I don't really think he impacts the game all that much. His shooting numbers are even worse however his shot is clearly not broken. Some team is going to draft him top 15 I think and he may be good in like 5 years

despite being a byu fan, i'm not all that high on Demin as an NBA prospect, but it seems crazy to say he doesn't impact the game much. he is pretty much the key to everything byu does and if he plays well, they are nearly impossible to beat.

azcatz11 · Post #74 » by **azcatz11** » Sun Mar 23, 2025 2:44 pm

SeattleJazzFan wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
CptCrunch wrote:I don't care about this guy's recent stats. They'll recover eventually perhaps not to his season start.

He is the most pro style looking point guard/forward you will see. He looks like Sengun passing except with way more perimeter dribbling skills. There are fewer than 5 forwards in the league right now regularly making passes he has made thus far.

Egor's floor is 10th; no way to get lower.

Look at this tape and tell me he doesn't look the part of a pro.

Watch on YouTube
;t=216s

Do you still feel this way? He hit a somewhat clutch shot with like a minute to go tonight.

I don't really think he impacts the game all that much. His shooting numbers are even worse however his shot is clearly not broken. Some team is going to draft him top 15 I think and he may be good in like 5 years

despite being a byu fan, i'm not all that high on Demin as an NBA prospect, but it seems crazy to say he doesn't impact the game much. he is pretty much the key to everything byu does and if he plays well, they are nearly impossible to beat.

He is probably your 4th best player. Great win yesterday. I was rooting very hard against you guys and you proved me wrong.

Dat2U · Post #75 » by **Dat2U** » Sun Mar 23, 2025 6:26 pm

I see a JAG. Gives off Tomas Satoransky vibes but Im not sure his handles are as good. Passive. Struggles to create space or score. Doesn't offer much defensively. Where is the upside other than him being a tall passer that can see the floor?

Jstock12 · Post #76 » by **Jstock12** » Mon Mar 24, 2025 8:01 am

CptCrunch wrote:Egor has super high ceiling. His play making talent is undeniably top tier NBA, top 10 in the league from day one.

His vision is top tier, but that doesn't necessarily translate to top tier playmaking. If he can't figure out how to get any decent separation in college, it will be even harder in the NBA with much much better and longer defenders. And without creating advantages, he won't be able to unlock that vision to its full potential. He'll also need to improve the rest of his offensive game a lot. Legitimately poor 3PT shooter. Poor handle. Subpar lateral speed on defense has also been a concern. I agree he has a high ceiling, but there's just so much to improve there. He has a very low floor as well. My honest opinion is that he'll end up being a good Euroleague player. Much like Teodosic who had a god tier (top5 alltime?) court vision.

tontoz · Post #77 » by **tontoz** » Mon Mar 24, 2025 8:41 pm

Did this guy ever have any good games against tough competition? To me it looks like he doesn't have the handles to play pg and doesn't have the shooting to play the wing. I wouldn't take him anywhere in the lottery.

azcatz11 · Post #78 » by **azcatz11** » Mon Mar 24, 2025 9:56 pm

tontoz wrote:Did this guy ever have any good games against tough competition? To me it looks like he doesn't have the handles to play pg and doesn't have the shooting to play the wing. I wouldn't take him anywhere in the lottery.

That's the point I was trying to make...he was never really a factor all season for them. His nickname is the invisible man. He will hit a random 3 but that's about it.

SeattleJazzFan · Post #79 » by **SeattleJazzFan** » Tue Mar 25, 2025 2:08 pm

tontoz wrote:Did this guy ever have any good games against tough competition? To me it looks like he doesn't have the handles to play pg and doesn't have the shooting to play the wing. I wouldn't take him anywhere in the lottery.

like, besides the two he just had in the ncaa tournament?

what an odd time to ask that question.

tontoz · Post #80 » by **tontoz** » Tue Mar 25, 2025 2:25 pm

SeattleJazzFan wrote:
tontoz wrote:Did this guy ever have any good games against tough competition? To me it looks like he doesn't have the handles to play pg and doesn't have the shooting to play the wing. I wouldn't take him anywhere in the lottery.

like, besides the two he just had in the ncaa tournament?

what an odd time to ask that question.

Not sure if unranked VCU qualifies as tough competition. Also not sure if 3-10 shooting against Wisconsin counts either although 8 rebounds and assists are nice.