Kasparas Jakucionis

[greg4012]

i get the kasparas comparisons to dragic, but they are off base. he's a pure pg - so much better as a playmaker/passer. dragic was more a combo scoring/attacking guard. dragic averaged fewer than 6 apg in 14 of his 15 seasons in the nba. would expect KJ to exceed that every season of his career in the league.

Dragic was one of the better transition guards, pick & roll guards, and was an automatic paint touch for much of his NBA career. I dont think KJ has near the first step to get into the paint or press in transition that Dragic had, but I agree he looks to be more of a half-court floor general.

[BlazersBroncos]

FWIW - per the Basketball w/o Borders camp a year or so ago Kasparas had a 38" max vert which was 2nd at the whole camp. I dont think he is lacking in athleticism, albeit his functional on court athleticism isnt a 38" guy, but the metrics from the camp from vert to speed drills show a guy that is, on paper, easily at least an average NBA athlete.

His lane agility was 10.91 - comparatively Saraf was 11.75. 3/4 court sprint was 3.31 - comparatively Saraf was 3.54.

Traore was at 10.7 and 3.25 FWIW.

[God Squad]

He's been dog chit ever since the injury.

[UcanUwill]

He's been dog chit ever since the injury.

I imagine you wouldn't like him on the Raptors? I wished he would end up on the Raptors, as I used to be somewhat a Raptors fans, but I know Raptors fans can be brutal when the guy does not meet expectations, and I imagine you would aim for someone higher than him as a top pick, right?

[God Squad]

He's been dog chit ever since the injury.

I imagine you wouldn't like him on the Raptors? I wished he would end up on the Raptors, as I used to be somewhat a Raptors fans, but I know Raptors fans can be brutal when the guy does not meet expectations, and I imagine you would aim for someone higher than him as a top pick, right?

I remember you well from the JV era. I'm not against him, but in most games, I try to watch he doesn't look great. I'm assuming it's been the injury.

But yeah, I'd look to draft someone whom I deem to have a higher ceiling.

[tontoz]

Yeah he has been bad for awhile. I will give him a little bit of a pass on the shooting because of the injury but i won't give him a pass on the turnovers. Last game was embarrassing.

[ChiTownHero1992]

Huge Illinois fan, bad slump right now but was injured. Turnovers are alarming but not always on him either. I personally would absolutely love him on the Bulls around 7th pick or so, Jakucionis and Buzelis pairing for the future would be a nice future to watch!

[azcatz11]

Huge Illinois fan, bad slump right now but was injured. Turnovers are alarming but not always on him either. I personally would absolutely love him on the Bulls around 7th pick or so, Jakucionis and Buzelis pairing for the future would be a nice future to watch!

That was a huge go ahead 3 tonight against Purdue.

You guys are either going to get blown out in the first round or make the final 4. No in between.

Is there a reason why your coach runs the offense thru Ivisic? It's ugly as hell at times and really makes no sense with the amount of talent you have across the board and on the wing

[HadAnEffectHere]

Yeah, I don't know what this guy's role in the NBA is beyond like a better SloMo or something (and he's not nearly that smart either).

He has the most mediocre tools imaginable and doesn't really have the skillset to make up for that.

He comes off like a utility wing who can do everything on offense OK though not great... Big question marks defensively.

[God Squad]

He's been dog chit ever since the injury.

I imagine you wouldn't like him on the Raptors? I wished he would end up on the Raptors, as I used to be somewhat a Raptors fans, but I know Raptors fans can be brutal when the guy does not meet expectations, and I imagine you would aim for someone higher than him as a top pick, right?

I remember you well from the JV era. I'm not against him, but in most games, I try to watch he doesn't look great. I'm assuming it's been the injury.

But yeah, I'd look to draft someone whom I deem to have a higher ceiling.

I repeat. He's been dog chit since like January. He's been awful leading up to the tournament and bad throughout.

I'd Pass on Jak and live with the results.

[UcanUwill]

I imagine you wouldn't like him on the Raptors? I wished he would end up on the Raptors, as I used to be somewhat a Raptors fans, but I know Raptors fans can be brutal when the guy does not meet expectations, and I imagine you would aim for someone higher than him as a top pick, right?

I remember you well from the JV era. I'm not against him, but in most games, I try to watch he doesn't look great. I'm assuming it's been the injury.

But yeah, I'd look to draft someone whom I deem to have a higher ceiling.

I repeat. He's been dog chit since like January. He's been awful leading up to the tournament and bad throughout.

I'd Pass on Jak and live with the results.

Yeah, if I am Raptors, and had to endure this tank, I would be very disappointed if I end up with KJ. I would probably be eyeing Edgecombe.

[God Squad]

I remember you well from the JV era. I'm not against him, but in most games, I try to watch he doesn't look great. I'm assuming it's been the injury.

But yeah, I'd look to draft someone whom I deem to have a higher ceiling.

I repeat. He's been dog chit since like January. He's been awful leading up to the tournament and bad throughout.

I'd Pass on Jak and live with the results.

Yeah, if I am Raptors, and had to endure this tank, I would be very disappointed if I end up with KJ. I would probably be eyeing Edgecombe.

Players I'd draft over KJ immediately, not including Cooper/Harper.

VJ
Ace
Fears
T. Johnson
Maluach

[76ciology]

Would he have been considered top 3 if not for his left hand injury?

I have him 3rd in my big board for quite a while.

[The-Power]

Would he have been considered top 3 if not for his left hand injury?

I have him 3rd in my big board for quite a while.

That depends on how much you believe his injury contributed to his struggles. I was very high on him and if his shot looks great in workouts, he will rise again. The injury was not responsible for his very lackluster defense and his propensity to turn the ball over a ton, so teams will have to assess what caliber of offensive player he is. Is he a top 2 offensive player on a playoff team down the road? If so, you can justify picking him 3rd. But if he's anything less than that, his value takes a nosedive.

[UcanUwill]

Would he have been considered top 3 if not for his left hand injury?

I have him 3rd in my big board for quite a while.

That depends on how much you believe his injury contributed to his struggles. I was very high on him and if his shot looks great in workouts, he will rise again. The injury was not responsible for his very lackluster defense and his propensity to turn the ball over a ton, so teams will have to assess what caliber of offensive player he is. Is he a top 2 offensive player on a playoff team down the road? If so, you can justify picking him 3rd. But if he's anything less than that, his value takes a nosedive.

But what is his ceiling really? From what I know, he is PG who does not really blow pass his men, can't really get to the paint because of that, and is turnover prone. KOC compared him to Haliburton, but to me, he looks more Ty Jereme level prospect than Haliburton, who for starters does not turn the ball over at all. I don't know, I am not that aware of all these prospects, but it feels to me like his ceiling is just not high enough at all to warrant a top 5 or maybe even top 10 pick. Like, if I am Utah, and I tanked whole year just to get Jakučionis, I am mad at the end/ Again, I hope I am wrong, but I do not really see it. Like, I do not know why he is better prospect than De Larea, and that guy is slotted at the second round. WOuld it be given that Jakučionis has a role in ACB for Valencia? No, its not. Of course it is not given that De Larea would have been as good as Jakučionis in NCAA, but I think being rotation player for Valencia is more impressive, and their base per minute production and skill set seem very similar.

[76ciology]

Kasparas before injury (15 games which is like half his season; the numbers are in line with his pre-illinois numbers)



Kasparas after injury



ended the season with 58TS%

I tried to check if the injury is legit:

[x]

Read on Twitter

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[azcatz11]

Would he have been considered top 3 if not for his left hand injury?

I have him 3rd in my big board for quite a while.

That depends on how much you believe his injury contributed to his struggles. I was very high on him and if his shot looks great in workouts, he will rise again. The injury was not responsible for his very lackluster defense and his propensity to turn the ball over a ton, so teams will have to assess what caliber of offensive player he is. Is he a top 2 offensive player on a playoff team down the road? If so, you can justify picking him 3rd. But if he's anything less than that, his value takes a nosedive.

But what is his ceiling really? From what I know, he is PG who does not really blow pass his men, can't really get to the paint because of that, and is turnover prone. KOC compared him to Haliburton, but to me, he looks more Ty Jereme level prospect than Haliburton, who for starters does not turn the ball over at all. I don't know, I am not that aware of all these prospects, but it feels to me like his ceiling is just not high enough at all to warrant a top 5 or maybe even top 10 pick. Like, if I am Utah, and I tanked whole year just to get Jakučionis, I am mad at the end/ Again, I hope I am wrong, but I do not really see it. Like, I do not know why he is better prospect than De Larea, and that guy is slotted at the second round. WOuld it be given that Jakučionis has a role in ACB for Valencia? No, its not. Of course it is not given that De Larea would have been as good as Jakučionis in NCAA, but I think being rotation player for Valencia is more impressive, and their base per minute production and skill set seem very similar.

He is a good shooter and is a great playmaker and has great size. What I don't understand is why Demin is ranked above him in mocks...that makes 0 sense to me. I'm not sure I see the Jerome comp. Jerome is a better shooter but a lot smaller.

The downside is when Boswell had the keys to the offense Illinois played a lot better...but I'm not sure why that is.

[JMAC3]

Kasparas before injury (15 games which is like half his season; the numbers are in line with his pre-illinois numbers)



Kasparas after injury



ended the season with 58TS%

I tried to check if the injury is legit:

[x]

Read on Twitter

[/x]

To take a page out of your book he also started to play worse the 2nd half of the year vs Big Ten competition, once teams had scouting report on him that he struggles if you apply ball pressure to him.

[76ciology]

Would he have been considered top 3 if not for his left hand injury?

I have him 3rd in my big board for quite a while.

That depends on how much you believe his injury contributed to his struggles. I was very high on him and if his shot looks great in workouts, he will rise again. The injury was not responsible for his very lackluster defense and his propensity to turn the ball over a ton, so teams will have to assess what caliber of offensive player he is. Is he a top 2 offensive player on a playoff team down the road? If so, you can justify picking him 3rd. But if he's anything less than that, his value takes a nosedive.

But what is his ceiling really? From what I know, he is PG who does not really blow pass his men, can't really get to the paint because of that, and is turnover prone. KOC compared him to Haliburton, but to me, he looks more Ty Jereme level prospect than Haliburton, who for starters does not turn the ball over at all. I don't know, I am not that aware of all these prospects, but it feels to me like his ceiling is just not high enough at all to warrant a top 5 or maybe even top 10 pick. Like, if I am Utah, and I tanked whole year just to get Jakučionis, I am mad at the end/ Again, I hope I am wrong, but I do not really see it. Like, I do not know why he is better prospect than De Larea, and that guy is slotted at the second round. WOuld it be given that Jakučionis has a role in ACB for Valencia? No, its not. Of course it is not given that De Larea would have been as good as Jakučionis in NCAA, but I think being rotation player for Valencia is more impressive, and their base per minute production and skill set seem very similar.

Hc rim frequency 30% at 61FG%
50% FTr;
50% 3PTr
85 FT%
59TS%
Shot 41% on 3,15 games prior to injury
96th percentile in PnR 35.8% of his stepback 3’s, going 12/23 on “side step backs
He’s a very good FT shooter 85-90-ish prior to illinois

He’s a legit 3 level scorer, he has one of the highest feel and IQ. He’s one of the rare high usage guys with good motor (averaged 2.2 stl% prior to injury; ended up with good rebounding number; never gives up on defense)

He had almost 10BPM prior to his injury

[UcanUwill]

That depends on how much you believe his injury contributed to his struggles. I was very high on him and if his shot looks great in workouts, he will rise again. The injury was not responsible for his very lackluster defense and his propensity to turn the ball over a ton, so teams will have to assess what caliber of offensive player he is. Is he a top 2 offensive player on a playoff team down the road? If so, you can justify picking him 3rd. But if he's anything less than that, his value takes a nosedive.

But what is his ceiling really? From what I know, he is PG who does not really blow pass his men, can't really get to the paint because of that, and is turnover prone. KOC compared him to Haliburton, but to me, he looks more Ty Jereme level prospect than Haliburton, who for starters does not turn the ball over at all. I don't know, I am not that aware of all these prospects, but it feels to me like his ceiling is just not high enough at all to warrant a top 5 or maybe even top 10 pick. Like, if I am Utah, and I tanked whole year just to get Jakučionis, I am mad at the end/ Again, I hope I am wrong, but I do not really see it. Like, I do not know why he is better prospect than De Larea, and that guy is slotted at the second round. WOuld it be given that Jakučionis has a role in ACB for Valencia? No, its not. Of course it is not given that De Larea would have been as good as Jakučionis in NCAA, but I think being rotation player for Valencia is more impressive, and their base per minute production and skill set seem very similar.

He is a good shooter and is a great playmaker and has great size. What I don't understand is why Demin is ranked above him in mocks...that makes 0 sense to me. I'm not sure I see the Jerome comp. Jerome is a better shooter but a lot smaller.

The downside is when Boswell had the keys to the offense Illinois played a lot better...but I'm not sure why that is.

I think KJ and Jerome are almost identical in size, hense the comparison, how is he much smaller?