Debate:Should Beasley go #1

[Sebzor]

It all comes down to who gets the 1st pick (there are 4teams I think can get it, but u never know)

MIAMI:
Depends who they like the most in training camp (they need a true PG, but Beasley would be a beautiful piece next to Wade/Marion)
MINNESOTA:
Beasley (They got Foye for PG duties & Telfair as a nice backup, Beasley/Jefferson/Smith)
MEMPHIS:
Beasley(they have Lowry/Conley/Crittenton at PG)
SEATTLE:
D. Rose (a PG from a winning team who can distribute the ball to Green & Durant)

[UGA Hayes]

^ Well if those are the only things he doing, and I don't know that it is, its more of a yellow flag than a red flag. Mostly immaturity issues rather than out and out inexscusable behavior.

I think you worry about him going to a team like the Sonics or T-Wolves who really have no vets to keep Beasley in line. Really now that I look at the standings, of the bottom teams, only the Clippers have anyone who I think might keep his immaturity in check.

[cdash]

See I think he would be okay with Seattle because him and Durant are buddies. I think of all the lottery teams the only ones who would pass on Beasley if they got the top pick are Indiana and Portland. Pacers cant deal with any semblance of character issues with the rag tag group of future prison inmates they have on that team. Portland already is set in the frontcourt for the foreseeable future and needs an elite point guard.

[_BBIB_]

As sick as Beasley's number have been this season the couple K-State games ive seen he could have been even better if his teammates didn't suck to high heaven. There are countless times he run the floor gets good post position and watches his team fail to get him the ball and toss up a crap shot. (Honestly as amazed as I am with how good Beasley is im more amazed at how horrible Bill Walker is.) Beasley IMO is clearly the #1 pick unless your team is dying for a PG, and even then I think that team would be better of trading down the pick to get value and add a good PG.

YEah KSU goes through those stretches where he doesn't get a touch for like 10 straight possessions.

His teammates are so bad that he is literally TRIPLE TEAMED at times

[_BBIB_]

On the subject of Beasley, I was reading Bill Simmons' links of the day today and came across a story about Beasley that really makes the argument that he doesnt have character problems tough to support. Here is a link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01466.html

No one should ever compare him to that slob Derrick Coleman again after watching that video.

Kid has the genuine love for the game to match the physical tools. Sounds like a recipe for greatness barring injury

[cdash]

Yeah I dont like the Coleman comparison either. Last I checked, Beasley isnt fat and lazy. I am really interested to see Beasley in the NBA next year. The more I watch him, the harder he is to pick apart. His inside/outside game is fantastic. If it turns out these character things were just immaturity, he could be really, really, really good. I'd like to see him in Seattle with Durant (Can you imagine that duo?), or in Miami beside Wade and Marion.

[BigSlam]

I'd like to see him in Seattle with Durant (Can you imagine that duo?), or in Miami beside Wade and Marion.

Felton - Richardson - Wallace - Beasley - Okafor

[DaGoodz]

Calm down boys, he'll be a knick. Book it.
And hopefully our next GM is smart enuff to kick Curry and Randolph out the door

[cdash]

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Felton - Richardson - Wallace - Beasley - Okafor

You may need a new coach too, but I like that starting five. What is the deal with Wallace? I keep reading stuff about the Bobs being scared this could affect his career? Three or four concussions is serious business.

[BigSlam]

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You may need a new coach too, but I like that starting five. What is the deal with Wallace? I keep reading stuff about the Bobs being scared this could affect his career? Three or four concussions is serious business.

Took an Mikki Moore elbow to the face, was out cold for 15 mins. Spent the night in hospital. Will be back next week - probably Monday.

Funny you should say that we'd need a new coach if we got Beasley. Not sure if this is what you meant, but I had said in a post a month or two ago about Beasley that in order to maximize his potential ideally he'd land on a roster with some vets he can look up to and respect (like a Shaq, Brand etc) and a head coach who can relate to him and manage people and potential ego's well.

We miss on both of those requirements!!

Still LOVE to have him though! We'd make do!

[cdash]

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Took an Mikki Moore elbow to the face, was out cold for 15 mins. Spent the night in hospital. Will be back next week - probably Monday.

Funny you should say that we'd need a new coach if we got Beasley. Not sure if this is what you meant, but I had said in a post a month or two ago about Beasley that in order to maximize his potential ideally he'd land on a roster with some vets he can look up to and respect (like a Shaq, Brand etc) and a head coach who can relate to him and manage people and potential ego's well.

We miss on both of those requirements!!

Still LOVE to have him though! We'd make do!

Nah I didnt mean you might need a new coach with Beasley, just in general. Some of Vincent's moves have been head scratchers, and it kinda seems as if the players are already tuning him out...or so I read.

[_BBIB_]

Yeah I dont like the Coleman comparison either. Last I checked, Beasley isnt fat and lazy. I am really interested to see Beasley in the NBA next year. The more I watch him, the harder he is to pick apart. His inside/outside game is fantastic. If it turns out these character things were just immaturity, he could be really, really, really good. I'd like to see him in Seattle with Durant (Can you imagine that duo?), or in Miami beside Wade and Marion.

Yeah when I found out that he and Durant were great friends I thought that was pretty neat. The idea that they could be teammates is even cooler


I wouldn't even mine if Stern rigged that. It would be good for the league.

[moocow007]

It all comes down to who gets the 1st pick (there are 4teams I think can get it, but u never know)

MIAMI:
Depends who they like the most in training camp (they need a true PG, but Beasley would be a beautiful piece next to Wade/Marion)
MINNESOTA:
Beasley (They got Foye for PG duties & Telfair as a nice backup, Beasley/Jefferson/Smith)
MEMPHIS:
Beasley(they have Lowry/Conley/Crittenton at PG)
SEATTLE:
D. Rose (a PG from a winning team who can distribute the ball to Green & Durant)

Why would these teams be the only 4 teams that can get it? Portland got the no.1 overall pick last year being the 6th worst team in the NBA (tied with Minny for 7th worst). Seattle who got the 2nd overall pick had the 5th worst record.

[JimmyBulls]

Personally, I would like to see Beasley end up in Minny and Rose in Mia.

[_BBIB_]

Personally, I would like to see Beasley end up in Minny and Rose in Mia.

Minnesota is actually the worse fit for Beasley. He and Al Jefferson are the least compatible players out of all the places he could end up.

[revprodeji]

I disagree. I think their offensive games would compliment. It would just be an issue of Beasley either defending the 3 with Al at 4 and a vet at 5 or Al at 5 with Beasley at the 4. Just a matter of defensive match ups. But offensively they would be very compatible.

[BadWolf]

Like Curry and Zach?
What's your position on Foye as the future point and Brewer as the future 3? Minny probably needs 1. center, 2. point, 3. wing. Al is best at PF, Beasley might play the 3, but is more suited for a PF role, specially cause his lack of range (add Brewer's presence ) would pack the middle for Al. Jordan would be a perfect fit if Minny falls to 4 or 5, as would Mayo, Rose also(I watched only parts of 2 Memphis games this year and Rose was great from 3 in those 2), but I'm not that sold on him.
Miami - I'd say Rose.
memphis - obviously Beasley

What about other teams

PHX - Rose
POR - Rose
DEN - Rose (Melo and Beasley, hm...)
SAC -prolly Beasley
CHA - hm, Beasley?
IND - Rose
NJN - Beasley
PHI - could use both, probably Beasley, although Rose might be the perfect fit if Thad stays at 4.
SEA - Rose
CHI - Beasley
MIL - Mayo or Green
NYK - Rose

So, Beasley is not really the logical choice?
Would any of teams picking Rose be willing to take a risk and trade their Nr1 pick for Nr 2 or 3?

[_BBIB_]

I disagree. I think their offensive games would compliment. It would just be an issue of Beasley either defending the 3 with Al at 4 and a vet at 5 or Al at 5 with Beasley at the 4. Just a matter of defensive match ups. But offensively they would be very compatible.

Sure every team could make Michael Beasley fit.

I'm just pointing out that it's the worse fit out of all the potential destinations and defensively is exactly why.

Al Jefferson cannot play the 5 defensively from what I've heard.

And Beasley is not fit to defend the 3. He has decent lateral quickness but for a 4. At the 3 he would not excel defensively vs the slashing 3s we have in this league.


A team like Miami or Seattle is the perfect fit for Beasley. In Miami he could be next to 3/4 tweener Marion who would compliment him well.

Seattle would probably be the best fit in terms of chemistry with Durant and compabilitiy where he could fit right in with Green and KD.

Then again Seattle has Chris Wilcox at the 4. Of course he could kick rocks if they could land Michael Beasley

[revprodeji]

Like Curry and Zach?
What's your position on Foye as the future point and Brewer as the future 3? Minny probably needs 1. center, 2. point, 3. wing. Al is best at PF, Beasley might play the 3, but is more suited for a PF role, specially cause his lack of range (add Brewer's presence ) would pack the middle for Al. Jordan would be a perfect fit if Minny falls to 4 or 5, as would Mayo, Rose also but I'm not that sold on him.

Nothing like Curry and Zach. Curry and Zach both have understood positions, their issue is they do not mix. Neither tries on defense and they just get in the way of each other. Al Jefferson likes the low block. Beasley gets most of his offense from the baseline or high post. Offensively it would work fine. Personally, I think Beasley is better suited as a 3.

I also like Foye as the point. It is a learning process with his injury, but he has the skill set that we need. He can also play off the ball. There are probably only 5 or so "true" point guards in the league right now so having a guy like Randy Foye as a "lead" or "attack" guard is fine. Fact of the matter is he is a tough defensive match-ups for other points and he makes things happen with the ball in his hands.

Brewer can play the 2 or 3. Some people like him better as a 2 where his lack of bulk is not as much of a concern. In our offense it works fine. Most NBA positioning is due more to defensive match-ups and Brewer can stick with 2's better than 3's

Beasley seems to have good range, good form and enjoys the jumper. I think the wolves have a decent core group of young guys that need to grow together. Add another big and see what happens. A big part of it will be who we bring back from Free agency this summer.

ALso, the argument could be made that Al is a natural offensive center and is not the defensive liability he is made out to be. The defensive issue is that he needs a big next to him. Gomes is not scaring anyone. But if you put a rebounding Beasley next to him you could have a nice situation. Just a matter of if Beasley is a legit 6'10 pf or more of a 6'8 SF. Like I said earlier, the nba position is more based on who you defend.

Sure every team could make Michael Beasley fit.
I'm just pointing out that it's the worse fit out of all the potential destinations and defensively is exactly why.
Al Jefferson cannot play the 5 defensively from what I've heard.
And Beasley is not fit to defend the 3. He has decent lateral quickness but for a 4. At the 3 he would not excel defensively vs the slashing 3s we have in this league.

Al plays the 5 fine, he just needs another big next to him to help on defense rather than RYan gomes (a good player, but a 3 not a 4) if that player is Beasley as a 3/4 or a Lopez type it will help.

[Klomp]

In Minnesota's situation, If a Josh Smith or Andrei Kirilenko type player was at the 4, I think Jefferson would do fine at the 5. Only problem is: Beasley is no where close to that level defensively.