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Re: DeMarcus Cousins. How good can he get? 

Post#61 » by Sid the Squid » Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:02 pm

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I always hear about Favors upside, but I just think Cousins is a better basketball player, better touch around the basket, more brut strength, more productive.

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I agree..I'd like to add that Cousin's has quick feet and Favors has sloth feet.
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Re: DeMarcus Cousins. How good can he get? 

Post#62 » by Piston Pete » Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:26 am

Finished the Arkansas game (Saturday) with 16 points, 14 rebounds, 1 block, 2 steals in only 17 minutes....
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Post#63 » by LeBron's Time » Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:49 pm

Piston Pete wrote:Finished the Arkansas game (Saturday) with 16 points, 14 rebounds, 1 block, 2 steals in only 17 minutes....



against long beach state, he finished 15 pts, 10 rebs, 3 ast, 2 stl, 1 blk in only 13 minutes

against drexel, he finished 18 pts, 13 rebs, 2 stl in only 14 minutes


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Post#64 » by horaceworthy » Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:38 pm

Village Idiot wrote:I can see Portland gunning for him. He'd make an ideal back-up PF/C due to his size, athleticism and varied game. His attitude wouldn't be a big issue on a team with a clear leader, no bad eggs and professionalism throughout the organization.

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Re: DeMarcus Cousins. How good can he get? 

Post#65 » by Jimmy76 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:49 pm

im considering him 5-10 but maybe im crazy
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Post#66 » by Relentless88 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:28 am

What this guy is doing in the minutes hes playing is unbelievable. Productive, no other word to describe him.
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Post#67 » by Piston Pete » Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:13 am

Kentucky lost tonight to South Carolina on the road. However, Cousins was, by far, the best player on the floor for Kentucky all night long.

34 minutes, 27 points, 12 rebounds, 3 blocks, 1 steal.

He was nearly unstoppable on the low blocks....showed a quick baseline spin move that got him a couple easy layups. Had a couple other nice post-up scores. He's not just bruising his way to the basket (as some would have you believe) - he's showing great low-post presence and a legit scoring touch around the basket.
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Post#68 » by hotshotschamp » Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:18 am

He's the best prospect BIG in college ball.

His per minute/stats/efficiency is insane.

He produces, he's not just all hype. When he's on the floor buckets are scored, balls are rebounded. Cousins is a top 5 player.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/DeM ... sins-1318/ Link to his efficiency, per 40 min stats in rebounding and points.

His numbers are literally off the charts. Don't be shocked when he goes top 3 or 4 in the draft this summer.
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Post#69 » by Cammo101 » Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:06 pm

hotshotschamp wrote:He's the best prospect BIG in college ball.

His per minute/stats/efficiency is insane.

He produces, he's not just all hype. When he's on the floor buckets are scored, balls are rebounded. Cousins is a top 5 player.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/DeM ... sins-1318/ Link to his efficiency, per 40 min stats in rebounding and points.

His numbers are literally off the charts. Don't be shocked when he goes top 3 or 4 in the draft this summer.


He may be a better player than Derrick Favors, but he has yet to prove to me he is a better prospect.
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Post#70 » by Piston Pete » Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:57 pm

Not sure I agree with that anymore - Cousins vs Favors.

1) Look at their season stats. -- Advantage Cousins
2) Look at their positions (Cousins is a C, Favors is a PF) -- Advantage Cousins
3) Age = Push


Some people say Cousins is only producing because he's bigger than the guys he plays. Why can't that line of reasoning also be used on Favors? With his superior athleticism, he should also have an advantage over most of the guys he goes up against.
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Re: DeMarcus Cousins. How good can he get? 

Post#71 » by Cammo101 » Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:04 pm

Piston Pete wrote:Not sure I agree with that anymore - Cousins vs Favors.

1) Look at their season stats. -- Advantage Cousins
2) Look at their positions (Cousins is a C, Favors is a PF) -- Advantage Cousins
3) Age = Push


Some people say Cousins is only producing because he's bigger than the guys he plays. Why can't that line of reasoning also be used on Favors? With his superior athleticism, he should also have an advantage over most of the guys he goes up against.


A) Cousins will be an NBA power forward.
B) Cousins has a much lower talent ceiling because he lacks the top tier athleticism that Favors has.
C) Cousins plays on a team with 2 playmakers and is the go to post guy. Favors plays with a shoot first PG and another big getting more touches.

Cousins is better now for sure, but Favors still has a lot more potential IMO.
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Post#72 » by ponder276 » Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:15 pm

Cammo101 wrote:
Piston Pete wrote:Not sure I agree with that anymore - Cousins vs Favors.

1) Look at their season stats. -- Advantage Cousins
2) Look at their positions (Cousins is a C, Favors is a PF) -- Advantage Cousins
3) Age = Push


Some people say Cousins is only producing because he's bigger than the guys he plays. Why can't that line of reasoning also be used on Favors? With his superior athleticism, he should also have an advantage over most of the guys he goes up against.


A) Cousins will be an NBA power forward.
B) Cousins has a much lower talent ceiling because he lacks the top tier athleticism that Favors has.
C) Cousins plays on a team with 2 playmakers and is the go to post guy. Favors plays with a shoot first PG and another big getting more touches.

Cousins is better now for sure, but Favors still has a lot more potential IMO.

Cousins looks BIG to me, plus he has a very nice post game, is a great rebounder, and a good shot blocker, I see no reason why he can't play C. He's way more of a natural C than, say, Al Horford. He's listed at 6'11" and 260 lbs, he clearly has a great wingspan, I just don't get why he wouldn't play C in the NBA.

IMO any concerns about Cousins start and end with his attitude. If he ends up being a hard worker who doesn't get himself into much trouble, then he'd be an excellent pick, and a better prospect IMO than the very raw Favors. If he's Eddy Curry 2.0 and just gets all fat and lazy, then obviously he's much worse.
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Re: DeMarcus Cousins. How good can he get? 

Post#73 » by ManualRam » Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:20 pm

Cammo101 wrote:
Piston Pete wrote:Not sure I agree with that anymore - Cousins vs Favors.

1) Look at their season stats. -- Advantage Cousins
2) Look at their positions (Cousins is a C, Favors is a PF) -- Advantage Cousins
3) Age = Push


Some people say Cousins is only producing because he's bigger than the guys he plays. Why can't that line of reasoning also be used on Favors? With his superior athleticism, he should also have an advantage over most of the guys he goes up against.


A) Cousins will be an NBA power forward.
B) Cousins has a much lower talent ceiling because he lacks the top tier athleticism that Favors has.
C) Cousins plays on a team with 2 playmakers and is the go to post guy. Favors plays with a shoot first PG and another big getting more touches.

Cousins is better now for sure, but Favors still has a lot more potential IMO.


-cousins can play C or PF at the next level, but most likely a 5 given his lateral quickness.
-favors isnt a top tier athlete at the next level either.
-favors posts up just as much as cousins does. both players play on teams with questionable outside shooting so the spacing isnt always there. cousins is just THAT much more dominant in the post. cousins plays with an even better big.
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Re: DeMarcus Cousins. How good can he get? 

Post#74 » by Ruzious » Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:30 pm

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Cammo101 wrote:
Piston Pete wrote:Not sure I agree with that anymore - Cousins vs Favors.

1) Look at their season stats. -- Advantage Cousins
2) Look at their positions (Cousins is a C, Favors is a PF) -- Advantage Cousins
3) Age = Push


Some people say Cousins is only producing because he's bigger than the guys he plays. Why can't that line of reasoning also be used on Favors? With his superior athleticism, he should also have an advantage over most of the guys he goes up against.


A) Cousins will be an NBA power forward.
B) Cousins has a much lower talent ceiling because he lacks the top tier athleticism that Favors has.
C) Cousins plays on a team with 2 playmakers and is the go to post guy. Favors plays with a shoot first PG and another big getting more touches.

Cousins is better now for sure, but Favors still has a lot more potential IMO.


-cousins can play C or PF at the next level, but most likely a 5 given his lateral quickness.
-favors isnt a top tier athlete at the next level either.
-favors posts up just as much as cousins does. both players play on teams with questionable outside shooting so the spacing isnt always there. cousins is just THAT much more dominant in the post. cousins plays with an even better big.

I agree on some points, but Cousins has a MUCH better setup than Favors does. He has 2 tremendous distributing guards who can create - getting him the ball, and Patterson is basically the decoy. Lawal is the go-to guy on Favors' team, and Favors has nobody getting him the ball. They are very different situations. Cousins couldn't ask for a better setup. And Favors' situation is pretty bad.
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Post#75 » by Piston Pete » Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:51 pm

I wouldn't say Favors' setup is "pretty bad," but I would agree Cousins' might be more ideal for a big.

Like you said, Favors has Lawal to take some pressure off him. And Favors is the 2nd, maybe 3rd option at GT.

Cousins has been 3rd/4th until recently....he's just been too good so far this season for them to NOT get him more touches....
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Post#76 » by Cammo101 » Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:56 pm

Piston Pete wrote:I wouldn't say Favors' setup is "pretty bad," but I would agree Cousins' might be more ideal for a big.

Like you said, Favors has Lawal to take some pressure off him. And Favors is the 2nd, maybe 3rd option at GT.

Cousins has been 3rd/4th until recently....he's just been too good so far this season for them to NOT get him more touches....


Cousins is the clear #2 option at UK when he can stay on the floor. Favors on the other hand has both Shumpert and Lawal taking shots from him.

Cousins is the better player right now, but he is also in a much more favorable situation.
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Post#77 » by Piston Pete » Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:03 pm

I agree both are good. Favors might have the higher ceiling....I just think Cousins is the better prospect - meaning I think Cousins will always be better than Favors (no knock on Favors).
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Post#78 » by Cammo101 » Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:05 pm

Piston Pete wrote:I agree both are good. Favors might have the higher ceiling....I just think Cousins is the better prospect - meaning I think Cousins will always be better than Favors (no knock on Favors).


I think that is possible. But, my money is still on Favors. Though I'm coming around slowly.
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Post#79 » by ManualRam » Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:59 pm

Ruzious wrote:
ManualRam wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:
A) Cousins will be an NBA power forward.
B) Cousins has a much lower talent ceiling because he lacks the top tier athleticism that Favors has.
C) Cousins plays on a team with 2 playmakers and is the go to post guy. Favors plays with a shoot first PG and another big getting more touches.

Cousins is better now for sure, but Favors still has a lot more potential IMO.


-cousins can play C or PF at the next level, but most likely a 5 given his lateral quickness.
-favors isnt a top tier athlete at the next level either.
-favors posts up just as much as cousins does. both players play on teams with questionable outside shooting so the spacing isnt always there. cousins is just THAT much more dominant in the post. cousins plays with an even better big.

I agree on some points, but Cousins has a MUCH better setup than Favors does. He has 2 tremendous distributing guards who can create - getting him the ball, and Patterson is basically the decoy. Lawal is the go-to guy on Favors' team, and Favors has nobody getting him the ball. They are very different situations. Cousins couldn't ask for a better setup. And Favors' situation is pretty bad.

i do agree that cousins has a better set up but favors' situation isnt THAT much worse. favors IS the post threat, lawal isnt. g-tech always tries to establish favors first, he's just not as dominant in the post as cousins is.
i wouldnt call lawal the go-to man either. he scores the most points, but the guy doesnt even get 10 shots a game. a lot of his shots still come off broken plays, dump-offs and o-boards.
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Post#80 » by ahartleyvu » Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:10 pm

Cuz is still a boy, think how big he will get once he is a man. He is like 6'10-11 280 lbs. He could become fat at the next level, who knows. I think he shows up to the draft camps in tip top shape. Just think about how quick Cuz will be at 260. As he grows older, I think he could very easily play at 280 with very little fat to him.

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