Cameron Reddish

[Jamaaliver]

Cam Reddish on the upswing...shooting around 40% from three for the month of January.

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[Marcus]

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tell NBA Central they coming for them

[Ruzious]

Clarke should probably be in the top 5 if it's for the full season - even though he plays just 22 minutes a game.

[King Ken]

He can be elite on both ends of the court but we got posters who were saying he is the worst pick in the draft. Shooting over 40% from 3 in the 2020 on good volume. One of best young defenders in the NBA but you are going to tell me that he isn't a future superstar.

Disgraceful, it should have been obvious too.

[kg01]

He can be elite on both ends of the court but we got posters who were saying he is the worst pick in the draft. Shooting over 40% from 3 in the 2020 on good volume. One of best young defenders in the NBA but you are going to tell me that he isn't a future superstar.

Disgraceful, it should have been obvious too.

It was equally disgraceful how he snatched Fournier's toupee last nite ...

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[Patsfan1081]

He can be elite on both ends of the court but we got posters who were saying he is the worst pick in the draft. Shooting over 40% from 3 in the 2020 on good volume. One of best young defenders in the NBA but you are going to tell me that he isn't a future superstar.

Disgraceful, it should have been obvious too.

Sorry but this is just ridiculous. 40% from three for a dozen games and he's back on the superstar train..... Do you know what his defensive metrics have been during that span and how he's shot the ball from everywhere else during that time? Barely over 40% just from two and near 120 defensive rating with the worst defensive box over a dozen game span. I don't think he's even close to as bad of a player as people are making out but there has been nothing shown during his rookie or his freshman year at school that points to him being a all star let alone a superstar. Since being measured no rookie has ever had a negative win share and gone on to be a all star, I really doubt Reddish changes that. 27% from 3-10 from a wing/sg even for a rookie is just bad. I also know that he has the potential to be a great defender but his defensive metrics so far don't support that. It just looks silly calling him a future superstar, you would be trashing him if he played for another Atlantic team.

[Patsfan1081]

I have to disagree with the last paragraph, for the role he's in, he's put in a great stretch of games. I would say this Detroit game was his worst game this month and that was on a backend of a B2B with an ankle injury. His role isn't that complex these days. Provide great defense, make threes and be used a PnR ball handler which he has been much better at lately. He was 40% from three going into the DET game for the month of Jan. I can't argue if you are watching the games or not, I've never seen you in any Hawk related message board or Hawk anything. I wouldn't know but I trust that you are telling the truth from your perspective so I won't say otherwise there.

I obviously disagree with the first paragraph. I am more focus on him playing his role and making marked improvements. That's what I am watching for.

This is just solid on defense my friend?

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I think he has potential to be the best player in the NBA. I already told you why. You think he's a potential 3/D player. I think he is MUCH MUCH better than that potentially. For rookies who play both ends of the court and show talent on offense, most if not all don't shoot a good 3pt percentage as a rookie. Look at Leonard, PG, etc. With Cam's improvement, he's likely to finish 33-35% from 3. That means a lot considering he started the season a historically low like 5%-8% from 3 on 5 3 threes per game. That puts him in the zone for decent 3/D as a rookie. Why would you say that's his potential when it's possibly his rookie floor unless you don't think much of his potential?

I think you are dead ass wrong on Reddish. I already know the hater and Stillwater is dead ass wrong already on Reddish. Stillwater would take Aaron Holiday and Yogi Ferrell over Trae Young earlier this season. He said Reddish should have been undrafted and is trash. That's not the person you want to go to war with on this honestly.

DRPM has Cam at a -0.8, he has a -0.5 DBPM, and a -0.07 DRAPM. So ya I think him being a solid defender is a pretty accurate description. Also not a slight in anyway, being a solid defender as rookie wing is pretty damn good.

Also if you claim Cam plays both ends of the court, then you can say any player plays both ends of the court. Cam has been a horrible offensive player, there is no denying this. You say his role is simple, its essentially just a 3&D role. You know a lot of these kind of metrics basically just tell you how players are playing within their role. RPM isn't saying Danny Green was the best 2 guard in basketball last year, its saying he excelled in his role to a great extent. If Cam was only asked to be playing a 3&D role and excelling at it, he would be looking much better in these advanced metrics.

I think 3&D is his ceiling because I dont see any promise in any other aspect of his game. His complete lack of any ability at all with the ball in his hands on the college level, then followed up with being at just the 6th percentile in ISO and just 26th percentile in PnR duties. No I dont think that means much for his potential with the ball in his hands.

I could care less about the DRPM or any metric where the team makes a massive impact if the team is extremely bad or extremely good. That's why the eye test is KING! I literally saw one metric that said Jabari Parker is a top 10 offensive player and Donte DeVincenzo is the best defender in the NBA. It's all rubbish to be honest. Mostly nerds who don't know anything about Basketball.

It's all about responsibility. We put more on Hunter and Reddish than the average rookie. I watch a lot of teams nightly. Most rookies have a small role with small assignments. Not ours. Same for kids like Ja, Culver, GS rookies, and Barrett who also have a lot of their plate. Kids like Hayes, Bruno, Coby White, Rui, and Gafford are just asked to do simple actions. You can't evaluate by stats when the roles are just completely different. That's why I watch the games.

Let's not compare rookies who play both ends to vets who excel in it. Please find guys with a lot of offensive responsibility who play defense and have a lot of defensive responsibilities who have good offensive metrics as ROOKIES. Go back the last 20 years if you have too.

You keep saying Cam is horrible offensively when I keep saying he is one of the most improved like Trae Young from December on like Trae was as a rookie. There is no doubt, Trae was the worst performing player in the NBA playing qualified mins from Oct/Nov last year. Same offensively for Reddish from Oct/Nov but since, Reddish has been shooting 33% from three and has been a lockdown defender for the Hawks but continue to live in this world of, but but but THE DATA! Screw the damn data. It's useless D4L. It is.

I've seen enough from Reddish to know he can beat most defenders off the dribble with ease and can get to any spot he wants on the court.

I've seen enough from Reddish to know that he is a PnR ball handler and our 3rd best on the roster outside of Trae and Kevin who start. Now 4th since we landed Teague.

If you want to talk about silly data, be my guest but you are missing out my friend. 100%. You do now what percentile 100% falls in? That's how confident I am in the stardom of Cam Reddish long term barring serious injury.

This same group grades out Wiggins as a B defender. It's main grading system(PIPM) doesn't speak too favorably for Reddish either.

[King Ken]

He can be elite on both ends of the court but we got posters who were saying he is the worst pick in the draft. Shooting over 40% from 3 in the 2020 on good volume. One of best young defenders in the NBA but you are going to tell me that he isn't a future superstar.

Disgraceful, it should have been obvious too.

Sorry but this is just ridiculous. 40% from three for a dozen games and he's back on the superstar train..... Do you know what his defensive metrics have been during that span and how he's shot the ball from everywhere else during that time? Barely over 40% just from two and near 120 defensive rating with the worst defensive box over a dozen game span. I don't think he's even close to as bad of a player as people are making out but there has been nothing shown during his rookie or his freshman year at school that points to him being a all star let alone a superstar. Since being measured no rookie has ever had a negative win share and gone on to be a all star, I really doubt Reddish changes that. 27% from 3-10 from a wing/sg even for a rookie is just bad. I also know that he has the potential to be a great defender but his defensive metrics so far don't support that. It just looks silly calling him a future superstar, you would be trashing him if he played for another Atlantic team.

He has never been off the potential superstar train.

Don't watch games and make pointless comments is typical on RealGM. This is what I hate about RealGM, nephews with strong opinions. You don't watch the games but you got a strong opinion. If you watched the games, you would know he is a special defender but since you don't, you use stats that are highly skewed due to who's on the court with you.

[GreatWhiteStiff]

Obvious future superstar! Three point shot bandwagon train...all aboard! TS% through the roof! Lets go!

[King Ken]

Obvious future superstar! Three point shot bandwagon train...all aboard! TS% through the roof! Lets go!

Since the beginning of the season, he is on the same path as Trae. While those who watch every game started to see him improve from December and on. The casuals and non Hawks watchers till really start taking note till March when Trae starting to draft 25-12. Cam is on that type of run but obviously less offensive numbers than Trae of course while clearly better two way numbers.

People lack patience in this microwavable era. Somethings are like gumbo, it takes time to cook. You can't do it in 2 minutes.

[karkinos]

3 and D guy imo
not anything to be ashamed about. in fact, they are my favorite role players to scout *shrug*
i still think he has a lot more room to grow in the 3 point shooting aspect.

[HeadtopChunes]

Obvious future superstar! Three point shot bandwagon train...all aboard! TS% through the roof! Lets go!

Since the beginning of the season, he is on the same path as Trae. While those who watch every game started to see him improve from December and on. The casuals and non Hawks watchers till really start taking note till March when Trae starting to draft 25-12. Cam is on that type of run but obviously less offensive numbers than Trae of course while clearly better two way numbers.

People lack patience in this microwavable era. Somethings are like gumbo, it takes time to cook. You can't do it in 2 minutes.

I dont watch a ton of Hawks but the last couple game i have caught Reddish looks better to me than Hunter.

Im not as high on Cam as you are but i think he will probably end up better than Hunter

[King Ken]

Obvious future superstar! Three point shot bandwagon train...all aboard! TS% through the roof! Lets go!

Since the beginning of the season, he is on the same path as Trae. While those who watch every game started to see him improve from December and on. The casuals and non Hawks watchers till really start taking note till March when Trae starting to draft 25-12. Cam is on that type of run but obviously less offensive numbers than Trae of course while clearly better two way numbers.

People lack patience in this microwavable era. Somethings are like gumbo, it takes time to cook. You can't do it in 2 minutes.

I dont watch a ton of Hawks but the last couple game i have caught Reddish looks better to me than Hunter.

Im not as high on Cam as you are but i think he will probably end up better than Hunter

Its unfair to compare them. Hunter fits the mold of 3 & D potential wings that's been highly coveted in the NBA. Cam is like a highly talented and skilled 6'9 combo guard who plays and feels like he's 6'4 who defends like with the talent and potential of Tony Allen. Hunter was brought to eventually fill that role. Cam always been more of an upside play and someone who we think could be the #2 guy with Trae being the ace.

Both players are highly valued. I don't like comparing them. Both will play vital roles to winning for us in the future.

[Stillwater]

So many still on this kids hype lol...
Same problems in college still exist.

[GreatWhiteStiff]

The man is going insane from downtown...his potential is through the roof, anyone who hasn't flipflopped onto the Reddish bandwagon is in for a hurting! Capable of being a legend on both sides of the basketball, his doubters are flailing around in the middle of the ocean looking for king ken to throw them a life preserver, but none are incoming. As soon as Reddish hits 10 PER expect another dose of crow!

[Stillwater]

The man is going insane from downtown...his potential is through the roof, anyone who hasn't flipflopped onto the Reddish bandwagon is in for a hurting! Capable of being a legend on both sides of the basketball, his doubters are flailing around in the middle of the ocean looking for king ken to throw them a life preserver, but none are incoming. As soon as Reddish hits 10 PER expect another dose of crow!

this dude is soft as f

[raleigh]

this dude is soft as f

Really? I thought that was a better description of being 9th in the Big 12.

[NO-KG-AI]

If he gets on a hot streak, he could push his numbers up to 36% from the field, and 8 PER.


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[Stillwater]

this dude is soft as f

Really? I thought that was a better description of being 9th in the Big 12.

Cam is Cammy lol

[Ball4life32]

If he gets on a hot streak, he could push his numbers up to 36% from the field, and 8 PER.


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Last 13 games: (not including the game he got a concussion & only played 7 mins)

13.9 points, 3.9 rebounds, 1.6 assists in only 28 mins per
game while showing potential elite D.

44% FG
43% 3pt
87% FT

Cam Reddish is a bust