Markelle Fultz

[Unbreakable99]

I hope Boston selects Fultz because I like Ball and Jackson better. If Boston wants to have a better chance of winning they should draft Ball or Jackson but Ainge isn't a good drafter so I can see him drafting Fultz first. I just don't want Boston trading down getting more assets and picks. Stay at 1 and take Fultz.

[kennygee90]

D'angelo Russell is a different player from fultz despite some slight similarities. While Fultz loves to attack the paint in the pick n role ala Irving and wade Russell tends to shoot the off the dribble 3 ala harden and curry. They both are advanced ball handlers with great court vision with Fultz being a really good passer and Russell being a great one. Fultz already has a developed body while Russell is still working on improving his strength and shedding his baby fat. They play at a calm pace with both showing the ability to shift gears. Russell's road to superstardom depends on whether he becomes a 40% 3pt shooter with his quick release allowing him to attack defenders who play too tight ala curry. It will also allow him to be a better playmaker cause teams would need to trap him in order to slow him down. He'll also need to improve his strength and finishing in the paint but that will come in time when he matures his body and learns the tricks of the game.
Fultz road to stardom is through his elite ability to get in the teeth of the defense creating havoc ala wade and Harden. He can shift gears seamlessly finish with incredible moves and also create for a big if the defender moves out of position. He'll need to quicken the release on his jumper but with his size it might end up not being an issue. He's a future star if his shooting holds up.

So he's elite at getting into the paint like Wade and Harden but he didn't do it in college and there's multiple PGs IN HIS DRAFT better than him at slashing? Totally. I'm sure his strength isn't his midrange jumper which was 46% of his shot attempts which he hit at 44% to lead the NCAA in midrange shots made and attempted and its his ability to get to the rim which was only 25% of his shot attempts he hit at 61% (DLo took 22% of his shots in the paint at Ohio State and made them at 62% while a real elite slasher like Fox took 48% of his shots at the rim at 64% and Smith took 37% of his shots at the rim at 65%). You're totally right here.

The threat of his drive is what opens up his mid range.

[SmartWentCrazy]

I hope Boston selects Fultz because I like Ball and Jackson better. If Boston wants to have a better chance of winning they should draft Ball or Jackson but Ainge isn't a good drafter so I can see him drafting Fultz first. I just don't want Boston trading down getting more assets and picks. Stay at 1 and take Fultz.

I hope Philly drafts either Jackson or DSJ, which will destroy their spacing and render both Simmons and the pick useless. Too bad Colangelo lacks the guts to pick anything other than the consensus pick.

[Fencer reregistered]

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Markelle Fultz, 6’4” freshman point guard, Washington

“I’d take him number one. His main weakness is defense, but he has some ability to play defense when there’s something at stake. He needs to be around a winning culture to get the best out of him. The most complete player in the draft. I don’t like that he cruises sometimes. He’s almost like Daryl Strawberry. Is he loafing or is he just that smooth? I don’t know that winning has ever been important to him. I’ve talked to friends who recruited him, and they said even when they watched him in open gyms or playing AAU, his team hardly ever won. That scares the crap out of me.”

[nolang1]

His team definitely won in international competition last summer, where Fultz was the MVP of the FIBA Americas U18 tournament playing alongside players such as Michael Porter Jr., Mo Bamba, Jarrett Allen, Trae Young, PJ Washington, Hamidou Diallo, and Quade Green. Again, he is closer in age to these players (all of whom but Allen are incoming freshmen) than he is to the ones at the top of this year's draft. FIBA's YouTube channel has the full games up for anyone to watch.

Fultz's stats per 40: 25.1 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 9.5 apg, 5.8 spg, 1.1 bpg on 54.7% shooting. These numbers may even be underselling his impact as his two most impressive statistical performances came against the two best opponents in the medal round. 11 points, 10 assists, 6 steals, and 0 turnovers in 19 minutes against Brazil and 23 points, 5 assists, and 5 rebounds with 3 steals in only 21 minutes in the gold-medal game against Canada. In those 40 minutes, we're looking at 34 points (14-26 from the field, 5-11 from 3), 15 assists, 9 steals, 7 rebounds, and only 2 turnovers.



Here we see his "average" athleticism and slashing ability on display as before the dunk from outside the restricted area, he has to resort to using a spin move to get past a player who was giving him a 6 foot cushion.

[Cornbread]

It amazes me how often people mistake body control (a huge positive) for lacking athleticism.

[Unbreakable99]

His team definitely won in international competition last summer, where Fultz was the MVP of the FIBA Americas U18 tournament playing alongside players such as Michael Porter Jr., Mo Bamba, Jarrett Allen, Trae Young, PJ Washington, Hamidou Diallo, and Quade Green. Again, he is closer in age to these players (all of whom but Allen are incoming freshmen) than he is to the ones at the top of this year's draft. FIBA's YouTube channel has the full games up for anyone to watch.

Fultz's stats per 40: 25.1 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 9.5 apg, 5.8 spg, 1.1 bpg on 54.7% shooting. These numbers may even be underselling his impact as his two most impressive statistical performances came against the two best opponents in the medal round. 11 points, 10 assists, 6 steals, and 0 turnovers in 19 minutes against Brazil and 23 points, 5 assists, and 5 rebounds with 3 steals in only 21 minutes in the gold-medal game against Canada. In those 40 minutes, we're looking at 34 points (14-26 from the field, 5-11 from 3), 15 assists, 9 steals, 7 rebounds, and only 2 turnovers.



Here we see his "average" athleticism and slashing ability on display as before the dunk from outside the restricted area, he has to resort to using a spin move to get past a player who was giving him a 6 foot cushion.

Fultz spins too much for my liking. Can he ever get to the basket without spinning?

[cksdayoff]

His team definitely won in international competition last summer, where Fultz was the MVP of the FIBA Americas U18 tournament playing alongside players such as Michael Porter Jr., Mo Bamba, Jarrett Allen, Trae Young, PJ Washington, Hamidou Diallo, and Quade Green. Again, he is closer in age to these players (all of whom but Allen are incoming freshmen) than he is to the ones at the top of this year's draft. FIBA's YouTube channel has the full games up for anyone to watch.

Fultz's stats per 40: 25.1 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 9.5 apg, 5.8 spg, 1.1 bpg on 54.7% shooting. These numbers may even be underselling his impact as his two most impressive statistical performances came against the two best opponents in the medal round. 11 points, 10 assists, 6 steals, and 0 turnovers in 19 minutes against Brazil and 23 points, 5 assists, and 5 rebounds with 3 steals in only 21 minutes in the gold-medal game against Canada. In those 40 minutes, we're looking at 34 points (14-26 from the field, 5-11 from 3), 15 assists, 9 steals, 7 rebounds, and only 2 turnovers.



Here we see his "average" athleticism and slashing ability on display as before the dunk from outside the restricted area, he has to resort to using a spin move to get past a player who was giving him a 6 foot cushion.

Fultz spins too much for my liking. Can he ever get to the basket without spinning?

his spin moves are pre-meditated. does it matter when he gets a clear path to the basket almost all the time he uses it? (which is like once a game or less)

i love dsj, but the guy doesnt always beat his defender when taking the ball to the hoop either.

[LordCovington33]

I hope Boston selects Fultz because I like Ball and Jackson better. If Boston wants to have a better chance of winning they should draft Ball or Jackson but Ainge isn't a good drafter so I can see him drafting Fultz first. I just don't want Boston trading down getting more assets and picks. Stay at 1 and take Fultz.

I hope Philly drafts either Jackson or DSJ, which will destroy their spacing and render both Simmons and the pick useless. Too bad Colangelo lacks the guts to pick anything other than the consensus pick.

What else has BC told you since you already know who he will pick?

Jackson shot very well behind the arc in his last 6 games to show some promise. His FT shooting is a concern though. There are other parts of his game that will complement Simmons such as transition in the open court and his ability to cut and get to the rim in the half court. Fultz is the most complete player of the 3 picks and I would love for him to be on the sixers, but he also has glaring weaknesses such as his defence. People are hyping that kid up way too much, and it seems his legend is growing by the day.

EDIT: Jackson shot 44% behind the arc in his last 14 games.

[SmartWentCrazy]

I hope Boston selects Fultz because I like Ball and Jackson better. If Boston wants to have a better chance of winning they should draft Ball or Jackson but Ainge isn't a good drafter so I can see him drafting Fultz first. I just don't want Boston trading down getting more assets and picks. Stay at 1 and take Fultz.

I hope Philly drafts either Jackson or DSJ, which will destroy their spacing and render both Simmons and the pick useless. Too bad Colangelo lacks the guts to pick anything other than the consensus pick.

What else has BC told you since you already know who he will pick?

Jackson shot very well behind the arc in his last 6 games to show some promise. His FT shooting is a concern though. There are other parts of his game that will complement Simmons such as transition in the open court and his ability to cut and get to the rim in the half court. Fultz is the most complete player of the 3 picks and I would love for him to be on the sixers, but he also has glaring weaknesses such as his defence. People are hyping that kid up way too much, and it seems his legend is growing by the day.

EDIT: Jackson shot 44% behind the arc in his last 14 games.

Do you have proof to the contrary? That Colangelo has guts?

Look, I love Jackson. I have him as #3 on my board. I think projecting him to be an average shooter is optimistic at the moment. He can get there, and his work ethic is a major positive in that direction, but he has a lot of work to do.

He doesn't fit well with Simmons. Simmons is an amazing talent, but he's unique and hard to build around. If he's your future (and he and Embiid should be, they're future superstars), you need to surround him with the right pieces. Tatum or Monk are perfect fits-- I even prefer Tatum to Jackson overall. I just don't think Colangelo will take this risk to stray with the consensus.

[Slartibartfast]

His team definitely won in international competition last summer, where Fultz was the MVP of the FIBA Americas U18 tournament playing alongside players such as Michael Porter Jr., Mo Bamba, Jarrett Allen, Trae Young, PJ Washington, Hamidou Diallo, and Quade Green. Again, he is closer in age to these players (all of whom but Allen are incoming freshmen) than he is to the ones at the top of this year's draft. FIBA's YouTube channel has the full games up for anyone to watch.

Fultz's stats per 40: 25.1 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 9.5 apg, 5.8 spg, 1.1 bpg on 54.7% shooting. These numbers may even be underselling his impact as his two most impressive statistical performances came against the two best opponents in the medal round. 11 points, 10 assists, 6 steals, and 0 turnovers in 19 minutes against Brazil and 23 points, 5 assists, and 5 rebounds with 3 steals in only 21 minutes in the gold-medal game against Canada. In those 40 minutes, we're looking at 34 points (14-26 from the field, 5-11 from 3), 15 assists, 9 steals, 7 rebounds, and only 2 turnovers.



Here we see his "average" athleticism and slashing ability on display as before the dunk from outside the restricted area, he has to resort to using a spin move to get past a player who was giving him a 6 foot cushion.

Fultz spins too much for my liking. Can he ever get to the basket without spinning?

He primarily uses the spin when driving right. As soon as the guy commits to taking away the right, he spins back left. Going left he tends to crossover. He's shown the ability to crossover right to left and spin left to right though, so it's not like he's a one trick pony.

And it's a pretty great spin move. Has great speed on it and tremendous balance/power coming out of it.

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[Dr Positivity]

What makes you guys rate Fultz over DSJ? Do you think he's more talented or does the intangibles of DSJ scare you more? It seems to me like the is he a loser criticism applies to both

[E-Balla]

His team definitely won in international competition last summer, where Fultz was the MVP of the FIBA Americas U18 tournament playing alongside players such as Michael Porter Jr., Mo Bamba, Jarrett Allen, Trae Young, PJ Washington, Hamidou Diallo, and Quade Green. Again, he is closer in age to these players (all of whom but Allen are incoming freshmen) than he is to the ones at the top of this year's draft. FIBA's YouTube channel has the full games up for anyone to watch.

Fultz's stats per 40: 25.1 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 9.5 apg, 5.8 spg, 1.1 bpg on 54.7% shooting. These numbers may even be underselling his impact as his two most impressive statistical performances came against the two best opponents in the medal round. 11 points, 10 assists, 6 steals, and 0 turnovers in 19 minutes against Brazil and 23 points, 5 assists, and 5 rebounds with 3 steals in only 21 minutes in the gold-medal game against Canada. In those 40 minutes, we're looking at 34 points (14-26 from the field, 5-11 from 3), 15 assists, 9 steals, 7 rebounds, and only 2 turnovers.



Here we see his "average" athleticism and slashing ability on display as before the dunk from outside the restricted area, he has to resort to using a spin move to get past a player who was giving him a 6 foot cushion.

Yeah he really looks athletic vs that amazing Chinese competition.

And no one said Fultz wasn't good. Just that he's absolutely nothing like Dwyane Wade. In any way. I mean they're both humans...

[nolang1]

His team definitely won in international competition last summer, where Fultz was the MVP of the FIBA Americas U18 tournament playing alongside players such as Michael Porter Jr., Mo Bamba, Jarrett Allen, Trae Young, PJ Washington, Hamidou Diallo, and Quade Green. Again, he is closer in age to these players (all of whom but Allen are incoming freshmen) than he is to the ones at the top of this year's draft. FIBA's YouTube channel has the full games up for anyone to watch.

Fultz's stats per 40: 25.1 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 9.5 apg, 5.8 spg, 1.1 bpg on 54.7% shooting. These numbers may even be underselling his impact as his two most impressive statistical performances came against the two best opponents in the medal round. 11 points, 10 assists, 6 steals, and 0 turnovers in 19 minutes against Brazil and 23 points, 5 assists, and 5 rebounds with 3 steals in only 21 minutes in the gold-medal game against Canada. In those 40 minutes, we're looking at 34 points (14-26 from the field, 5-11 from 3), 15 assists, 9 steals, 7 rebounds, and only 2 turnovers.



Here we see his "average" athleticism and slashing ability on display as before the dunk from outside the restricted area, he has to resort to using a spin move to get past a player who was giving him a 6 foot cushion.

Yeah he really looks athletic vs that amazing Chinese competition.

And no one said Fultz wasn't good. Just that he's absolutely nothing like Dwyane Wade. In any way. I mean they're both humans...

He looked quite a bit better and more athletic against that *Chilean* competition than teammates of his who will be top-5 picks next year, so at this rate you might as well stop watching the NBA because in a few years, all the current players will replaced with all these guys you think are so unathletic. Or you could just realize that players who are 17-18 years old get bigger, faster, and stronger as they physically mature and that your memories of Dwyane Wade are from a time when he was as old as Fultz will be when he signs his rookie extension.

[E-Balla]

His team definitely won in international competition last summer, where Fultz was the MVP of the FIBA Americas U18 tournament playing alongside players such as Michael Porter Jr., Mo Bamba, Jarrett Allen, Trae Young, PJ Washington, Hamidou Diallo, and Quade Green. Again, he is closer in age to these players (all of whom but Allen are incoming freshmen) than he is to the ones at the top of this year's draft. FIBA's YouTube channel has the full games up for anyone to watch.

Fultz's stats per 40: 25.1 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 9.5 apg, 5.8 spg, 1.1 bpg on 54.7% shooting. These numbers may even be underselling his impact as his two most impressive statistical performances came against the two best opponents in the medal round. 11 points, 10 assists, 6 steals, and 0 turnovers in 19 minutes against Brazil and 23 points, 5 assists, and 5 rebounds with 3 steals in only 21 minutes in the gold-medal game against Canada. In those 40 minutes, we're looking at 34 points (14-26 from the field, 5-11 from 3), 15 assists, 9 steals, 7 rebounds, and only 2 turnovers.



Here we see his "average" athleticism and slashing ability on display as before the dunk from outside the restricted area, he has to resort to using a spin move to get past a player who was giving him a 6 foot cushion.

Yeah he really looks athletic vs that amazing Chinese competition.

And no one said Fultz wasn't good. Just that he's absolutely nothing like Dwyane Wade. In any way. I mean they're both humans...

He looked quite a bit better and more athletic against that *Chilean* competition than teammates of his who will be top-5 picks next year, so at this rate you might as well stop watching the NBA because in a few years, all the current players will replaced with all these guys you think are so unathletic. Or you could just realize that players who are 17-18 years old get bigger, faster, and stronger as they physically mature and that your memories of Dwyane Wade are from a time when he was as old as Fultz will be when he signs his rookie extension.

You're right he's so much more athletic than guys like Hamidou.

And no crap he looked better than them. No one is doubting he's good. Also I'm willing to bet Wade didn't magically become athletic on his 20th birthday. I don't even think you believe what you're saying its so absurd.

[nolang1]

Yeah he really looks athletic vs that amazing Chinese competition.

And no one said Fultz wasn't good. Just that he's absolutely nothing like Dwyane Wade. In any way. I mean they're both humans...

He looked quite a bit better and more athletic against that *Chilean* competition than teammates of his who will be top-5 picks next year, so at this rate you might as well stop watching the NBA because in a few years, all the current players will replaced with all these guys you think are so unathletic. Or you could just realize that players who are 17-18 years old get bigger, faster, and stronger as they physically mature and that your memories of Dwyane Wade are from a time when he was as old as Fultz will be when he signs his rookie extension.

You're right he's so much more athletic than guys like Hamidou.

And no crap he looked better than them. No one is doubting he's good. Also I'm willing to bet Wade didn't magically become athletic on his 20th birthday. I don't even think you believe what you're saying its so absurd.

Yeah, Wade was such an unbelievable athlete at that age that he went to Marquette for 3 years rather than going straight to the NBA.

[azcatz11]

He looked quite a bit better and more athletic against that *Chilean* competition than teammates of his who will be top-5 picks next year, so at this rate you might as well stop watching the NBA because in a few years, all the current players will replaced with all these guys you think are so unathletic. Or you could just realize that players who are 17-18 years old get bigger, faster, and stronger as they physically mature and that your memories of Dwyane Wade are from a time when he was as old as Fultz will be when he signs his rookie extension.

You're right he's so much more athletic than guys like Hamidou.

And no crap he looked better than them. No one is doubting he's good. Also I'm willing to bet Wade didn't magically become athletic on his 20th birthday. I don't even think you believe what you're saying its so absurd.

Yeah, Wade was such an unbelievable athlete at that age that he went to Marquette for 3 years rather than going straight to the NBA.

He played at Marquette for 2 years - he was ineligible his freshman year sir.

[nolang1]

You're right he's so much more athletic than guys like Hamidou.

And no crap he looked better than them. No one is doubting he's good. Also I'm willing to bet Wade didn't magically become athletic on his 20th birthday. I don't even think you believe what you're saying its so absurd.

Yeah, Wade was such an unbelievable athlete at that age that he went to Marquette for 3 years rather than going straight to the NBA.

He played at Marquette for 2 years - he was ineligible his freshman year sir.

No crap. Players can still get drafted while they're ineligible to play in college. Obviously if he went to a college where he'd have to sit out for a year before playing, he was not looking athletic enough back then to have jumped to the NBA.

[azcatz11]

Yeah, Wade was such an unbelievable athlete at that age that he went to Marquette for 3 years rather than going straight to the NBA.

He played at Marquette for 2 years - he was ineligible his freshman year sir.

No crap. Players can still get drafted while they're ineligible to play in college. Obviously if he went to a college where he'd have to sit out for a year before playing, he was not looking athletic enough back then to have jumped to the NBA.

Your post implied he played at Marquette for 3 years which is why I corrected you