RJ Barrett

SlowPaced · Post #641 » by **SlowPaced** » Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:31 am

RJ really needs to become a better shooter to flourish at the next level, imo. His ball dominant scoring won't be reliable enough to give him the keys to an offense if he doesn't get his jump shot going.

If he gets there, he can be James Harden-lite. If not, DeMar DeRozan is probably his ceiling.

Alatan · Post #642 » by **Alatan** » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:13 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Upperclass wrote:He's Evan Turner and a waste of a top ten pick imo

RJ's freshmen season dwarfs Turner's JUNIOR season

who was a 2nd overall pick btw

He is better than Evan Turner. Whoopty effing doo. Dude is a ball dominant isolation scorer that struggles to create his own shot while also being a below average shooter, a mediocre athlete and a terrible defender. Sounds like a perfect guy to build around right? :nonono:

clyde21 · Post #643 » by **clyde21** » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:25 pm

Alatan wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Upperclass wrote:He's Evan Turner and a waste of a top ten pick imo

RJ's freshmen season dwarfs Turner's JUNIOR season

who was a 2nd overall pick btw

He is better than Evan Turner. Whoopty effing doo. Dude is a ball dominant isolation scorer that struggles to create his own shot while also being a below average shooter, a mediocre athlete and a terrible defender. Sounds like a perfect guy to build around right?

i'm not the one using Evan Turner as a baseline.

and while he has flaws (efficiency, decision making)...you're being obscenely harsh on him. we'll agree to disagree cuz u seem a little emotional this morning.

Alatan · Post #644 » by **Alatan** » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:48 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Alatan wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
RJ's freshmen season dwarfs Turner's JUNIOR season

who was a 2nd overall pick btw

He is better than Evan Turner. Whoopty effing doo. Dude is a ball dominant isolation scorer that struggles to create his own shot while also being a below average shooter, a mediocre athlete and a terrible defender. Sounds like a perfect guy to build around right?

i'm not the one using Evan Turner as a baseline.

and while he has flaws (efficiency, decision making)...you're being obscenely harsh on him. we'll agree to disagree cuz u seem a little emotional this morning.

Ok, yeah. Sorry for the outburst...

SBM · Post #645 » by **SBM** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:21 am

I think he is legit. Middleton would be my floor for Barrett.

doordoor123 · Post #646 » by **doordoor123** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:36 pm

The thing about Barrett is that he’s going to be a monster in transition. He can score with a two on one situation or at least draw a foul. He thrives in transition, like when he was killing it with team Canada, he was doing it in transition. He’s better when Zion is on the floor because Zion helps push it in transition.

I really can’t talk myself into putting him lower than 2, I still think he can become something special. He’s a learner that gets better every year. I think in his second or third year in the NBA he’s going to be less of a selfish player and will figure it out.

VanWest82 · Post #647 » by **VanWest82** » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:45 am

Reason number 436 why I wouldn't want RJ on my basketball team: Duke has the ball with 30 seconds left and they're going to win. Coach K has Jack White at the scorers table ready to check in for Zion so he can have his moment in a triumphant return to the court where he dominated in every way. All Duke has to do is take the turnover and stop the clock. Not to be outdone, RJ takes the ball and jacks up one last ill advised three as the shot clock is expiring, which he misses because karma is a bitch. Duke now can't stop the clock and Zion doesn't get his standing O. The game ends.

King Ken · Post #648 » by **King Ken** » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:51 am

I feel indifferent, I thought R.J. looked solid. Nothing great on offense, generally he has struggled v. Cuse zone this year but defensively, he was pretty good. Didn't give up any uncontested shots, discipline, only one time I seen him make a mistake and that's was not trusted his D when he fouled at the 3 pt line in the 1st half. He was what I wanted to see. His shot was off and it's rare he airballs a layup but he was solid overall.

baca · Post #649 » by **baca** » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:23 am

VanWest82 wrote:Reason number 436 why I wouldn't want RJ on my basketball team: Duke has the ball with 30 seconds left and they're going to win. Coach K has Jack White at the scorers table ready to check in for Zion so he can have his moment in a triumphant return to the court where he dominated in every way. All Duke has to do is take the turnover and stop the clock. Not to be outdone, RJ takes the ball and jacks up one last ill advised three as the shot clock is expiring, which he misses because karma is a bitch. Duke now can't stop the clock and Zion doesn't get his standing O. The game ends.

Gosh, nobody cares about that...RJ sent couple of assists for Zion's dunk...It is crazy to say he is jealous about his roommate Zion...

Wait, are you Chris Beard mad about walk on dunk in garbage time ?

916fan · Post #650 » by **916fan** » Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:40 am

RJ Barrett is such a chucker. My god..

Does anyone think he could excel in the NBA if he's not the #1 option? He has one of the most dominant college players of all time alongside him, yet he chucks up poor shots like the team rides or die on him. It's worse than Trae last year imo. At least Trae plays the lead guard position.

reignfire · Post #651 » by **reignfire** » Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:30 am

He seems soft like Wiggins.

The Box Office · Post #652 » by **The Box Office** » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:19 am

916fan wrote:RJ Barrett is such a chucker. My god..

Does anyone think he could excel in the NBA if he's not the #1 option? He has one of the most dominant college players of all time alongside him, yet he chucks up poor shots like the team rides or die on him. It's worse than Trae last year imo. At least Trae plays the lead guard position.

Mega selfish. Massive ego. Huge time chucker. RJ Barrett is NOT better than Ja Morant and not worthy of the number 2 draft spot.

RJ has proven that to me time and time again. I'm tired of RJ's game. He's a soft player with a weak jump shot, weak handles, no defense, and weak athleticism. I haven't seen RJ beat anyone off the dribble for a pull up jumper. He always needs a screen to get pass his man.

Barrett is officially kicked out from my Top 3. I just can't have him there. No way. Can't. Can't do it. Zion is the only Duke in my Top 3. Zion could have gotten 40 points against UNC, but RJ Barrett decided not to pass to him and to chuck as usual.

916fan · Post #653 » by **916fan** » Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:11 am

The Box Office wrote:
916fan wrote:RJ Barrett is such a chucker. My god..

Does anyone think he could excel in the NBA if he's not the #1 option? He has one of the most dominant college players of all time alongside him, yet he chucks up poor shots like the team rides or die on him. It's worse than Trae last year imo. At least Trae plays the lead guard position.

Mega selfish. Massive ego. Huge time chucker. RJ Barrett is NOT better than Ja Morant and not worthy of the number 2 draft spot.

RJ has proven that to me time and time again. I'm tired of RJ's game. He's a soft player with a weak jump shot, weak handles, no defense, and weak athleticism. I haven't seen RJ beat anyone off the dribble for a pull up jumper. He always needs a screen to get pass his man.

Barrett is officially kicked out from my Top 3. I just can't have him there. No way. Can't. Can't do it. Zion is the only Duke in my Top 3. Zion could have gotten 40 points against UNC, but RJ Barrett decided not to pass to him and to chuck as usual.

I know Zion can't create his offense as well as RJ does, but there's no reason why Zion isn't Duke's #1 option. He's a god in college basketball. RJ is also out as my #2 prospect, but I have him at #3.

I just seriously hate how he forces shots the way he does.

The Box Office · Post #654 » by **The Box Office** » Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:22 am

RJ is not gonna change. He's gonna be a selfish chucker in the NBA. Guys like him rarely change. Barrett will NOT be the best player on his team next year. He will not accept that since he's definitely NOT accepting that now at Duke with Zion.

Barrett is still a piss poor defender, weak jump shot, soft, and weak ISO game. I still don't get why he's number 3 knowing this crap from him. Zion returned and Barrett is right back to chucking. He didn't learn anything from Zion's absence.

I have Jarrett Culver as the third pick now.

MemphisX · Post #655 » by **MemphisX** » Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:24 am

The Box Office wrote:RJ is not gonna change. He's gonna be a selfish chucker in the NBA. Guys like him rarely change. Barrett will NOT be the best player on his team next year. He will not accept that since he's definitely NOT accepting that now at Duke with Zion.

Barrett is still a piss poor defender, weak jump shot, soft, and weak ISO game. I still don't get why he's number 3 knowing this crap from him. Zion returned and Barrett is right back to chucking. He didn't learn anything from Zion's absence.

I have Jarrett Culver as the third pick now.

Uh, he’s better than Culver and younger.

The biggest problem is people watch every Duke game and have seen these other guys maybe only on highlights. Culver has had way more crap the bed games than RJ and he is the clear best player.

The Box Office · Post #656 » by **The Box Office** » Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:23 am

MemphisX wrote:
The Box Office wrote:RJ is not gonna change. He's gonna be a selfish chucker in the NBA. Guys like him rarely change. Barrett will NOT be the best player on his team next year. He will not accept that since he's definitely NOT accepting that now at Duke with Zion.

Barrett is still a piss poor defender, weak jump shot, soft, and weak ISO game. I still don't get why he's number 3 knowing this crap from him. Zion returned and Barrett is right back to chucking. He didn't learn anything from Zion's absence.

I have Jarrett Culver as the third pick now.

Uh, he’s better than Culver and younger.

The biggest problem is people watch every Duke game and have seen these other guys maybe only on highlights. Culver has had way more crap the bed games than RJ and he is the clear best player.

- Jarrett Culver being 2 years older than Barrett is not a problem to me. 20 years old for Culver is still damn young.

- So people watch Duke more. Of course, it's Duke. RJ Barrett knew what he was doing when he chose to go there. He wanted to play with Zion and Cam Reddish and be seen. It was on purpose. He knew he was gonna be scrutinized.

- Yes, Culver has had crap games. Of course, he IS the best player on Texas Tech. He doesn't have Zion and Cam Reddish. Opposing teams keyed in on Culver. Culver's situation at Texas Tech is similar to what Ja Morant is in right now with Murray State where their teammates are not NBA prospects. Morant's teammate, Shaq Buchanan, might be a late 2nd rounder though. I mean, he is OVC's Defensive Player of the Year. Buchanan earned a look.

What is RJ Barrett's excuse? None. He has Zion and Reddish. His other teammates are not slouches either. He shouldn't be having way too many bad games. And why? RJ purposely chose to chuck shots and be the Man.

-Culver has a post up fade away. He even has the MJ/Kobe footwork to go with that. I was shocked to see that. That's a Hall of Fame move. He also has pull up jump shot and he's the better defender. Barrett doesn't have that stuff. Culver can be a perennial All Star if he can get proficient with that fade away.

1) Zion
2) Ja
3) Jarrett Culver

Those are my rankings for now. RJ Barrett is not coming back into my Top 3. He can stay on yours. That's cool. I'm not here to persuade anyone. I just know what I'm seeing.

clyde21 · Post #657 » by **clyde21** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:54 pm

RJ's turning into a pretty elite rebounding wing at this point...8.8 boards per 40.

also, I wonder how many players in college have put up at least 24.8/8.8/4.7...pretty positive that list is very short...and he's doing it as a FS.

Alatan · Post #658 » by **Alatan** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:57 pm

clyde21 wrote:RJ's turning into a pretty elite rebounding wing at this point...8.8 boards per 40.

also, I wonder how many players in college have put up at least 24.8/8.8/4.7...pretty positive that list is very short...and he's doing it as a FS.

Is that translatable to the NBA or is it a scheme thing? He doesnt have a big reach, long arms or elite jumping so i suspect its a team thing. Either way thats what and extra rebound from the wing/guard spot at best? Its a poor reward for having a matador black hole on your team.

Funcrusher · Post #659 » by **Funcrusher** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:15 pm

916fan wrote:
The Box Office wrote:
916fan wrote:RJ Barrett is such a chucker. My god..

Does anyone think he could excel in the NBA if he's not the #1 option? He has one of the most dominant college players of all time alongside him, yet he chucks up poor shots like the team rides or die on him. It's worse than Trae last year imo. At least Trae plays the lead guard position.

Mega selfish. Massive ego. Huge time chucker. RJ Barrett is NOT better than Ja Morant and not worthy of the number 2 draft spot.

RJ has proven that to me time and time again. I'm tired of RJ's game. He's a soft player with a weak jump shot, weak handles, no defense, and weak athleticism. I haven't seen RJ beat anyone off the dribble for a pull up jumper. He always needs a screen to get pass his man.

Barrett is officially kicked out from my Top 3. I just can't have him there. No way. Can't. Can't do it. Zion is the only Duke in my Top 3. Zion could have gotten 40 points against UNC, but RJ Barrett decided not to pass to him and to chuck as usual.

I know Zion can't create his offense as well as RJ does, but there's no reason why Zion isn't Duke's #1 option. He's a god in college basketball. RJ is also out as my #2 prospect, but I have him at #3.

I just seriously hate how he forces shots the way he does.

I don't even see how this is true tbh...

clyde21 · Post #660 » by **clyde21** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:19 pm

Alatan wrote:
clyde21 wrote:RJ's turning into a pretty elite rebounding wing at this point...8.8 boards per 40.

also, I wonder how many players in college have put up at least 24.8/8.8/4.7...pretty positive that list is very short...and he's doing it as a FS.

Is that translatable to the NBA or is it a scheme thing? He doesnt have a big reach, long arms or elite jumping so i suspect its a team thing. Either way thats what and extra rebound from the wing/guard spot at best? Its a poor reward for having a matador black hole on your team.

of course his rebounding is translatable.

and I'm not really sure why you have such a hard vendetta against the guy. we're all aware of the fact that he can be a blackhole offensively...but to act like he's not having an incredible year and moreover is a great prospect in his own right is ludicrous.