DeMarcus Cousins. How good can he get?

[F-Stop]

Darn it !!!
The 6ers should have gotten Cousins... Now as the rest of the east combines there best players into a 4 team conference the 6ers will be left out. Orl = D12 & Cp3 Chi = Rose & Lebron Mia = Wade & Bosh.. Boozer & JJ will go somewhere also leaving the 6ers with 1rd exits for the next 3-4yrs.
We needed to hit a Grand Slam... We hit a Home Run..

Evan Turner is good but what NBA calibre guys did he play against this year. In the entire BIG 10 Manny Harris is the only NBA calibre player he faced. Manny didn't even get drafted so Turner is the only BIG 10 player drafted this year...

[Soca]

The weight issues do cause some concerns about his durability over 82 games.

[mattg]

Darn it !!!
The 6ers should have gotten Cousins... Now as the rest of the east combines there best players into a 4 team conference the 6ers will be left out. Orl = D12 & Cp3 Chi = Rose & Lebron Mia = Wade & Bosh.. Boozer & JJ will go somewhere also leaving the 6ers with 1rd exits for the next 3-4yrs.
We needed to hit a Grand Slam... We hit a Home Run..

Evan Turner is good but what NBA calibre guys did he play against this year. In the entire BIG 10 Manny Harris is the only NBA calibre player he faced. Manny didn't even get drafted so Turner is the only BIG 10 player drafted this year...

the quality of basketball that was played in the big 10 this past season>>>the competition UK faced in the SEC. The SEC was just awful, easily the 2nd worst power conference behind the pac-10. The A-10 was better than those 2 conferences this past season.

[Jaylee209]

I think the weight thing is overblown.If you look at Cousins, he doesn't look "fat" like Eddy Curry or Zach Randolph. He just looks "Big Boned".Also he's already lost 10 pounds since the combine ....and that's WITHOUT a professional sports franchise helping him out. When he gets with the kings strength and condition coach, I have NO doubt he'll be in shape for the opening season. I think his ideal weight would be 270-275...which isn't really hard to attain, with nutritionists around him.

[F-Stop]

Darn it !!!
The 6ers should have gotten Cousins... Now as the rest of the east combines there best players into a 4 team conference the 6ers will be left out. Orl = D12 & Cp3 Chi = Rose & Lebron Mia = Wade & Bosh.. Boozer & JJ will go somewhere also leaving the 6ers with 1rd exits for the next 3-4yrs.
We needed to hit a Grand Slam... We hit a Home Run..

Evan Turner is good but what NBA calibre guys did he play against this year. In the entire BIG 10 Manny Harris is the only NBA calibre player he faced. Manny didn't even get drafted so Turner is the only BIG 10 player drafted this year...

the quality of basketball that was played in the big 10 this past season>>>the competition UK faced in the SEC. The SEC was just awful, easily the 2nd worst power conference behind the pac-10. The A-10 was better than those 2 conferences this past season.

Your right the caliber of play was bad but the quality of players within the SEC was higher than the A-10 and Big10. Those leagues play a better brand (Higher Quality) of basketball than the SEC. They take care of the ball and actually run set plays.

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The thing that I find most interesting about Cousins is his claim that he doesn't lift weights.
When this guy gets on an NBA weight-training program he will add muscle. This could end up lowering his body fat percentage and increasing his explosiveness.
I think he has as much potential as anyone in this draft.

[mattg]

Darn it !!!
The 6ers should have gotten Cousins... Now as the rest of the east combines there best players into a 4 team conference the 6ers will be left out. Orl = D12 & Cp3 Chi = Rose & Lebron Mia = Wade & Bosh.. Boozer & JJ will go somewhere also leaving the 6ers with 1rd exits for the next 3-4yrs.
We needed to hit a Grand Slam... We hit a Home Run..

Evan Turner is good but what NBA calibre guys did he play against this year. In the entire BIG 10 Manny Harris is the only NBA calibre player he faced. Manny didn't even get drafted so Turner is the only BIG 10 player drafted this year...

the quality of basketball that was played in the big 10 this past season>>>the competition UK faced in the SEC. The SEC was just awful, easily the 2nd worst power conference behind the pac-10. The A-10 was better than those 2 conferences this past season.

Your right the caliber of play was bad but the quality of players within the SEC was higher than the A-10 and Big10. Those leagues play a better brand (Higher Quality) of basketball than the SEC. They take care of the ball and actually run set plays.

that's arguable, just because the big 10 didn't have guys drafted doesn't mean anything. They had underclassmen return to school who would have been taken and are just as good as the players in the SEC. Demetri McCamey, JaJuan Johnson, and Etauwn Moore are all juniors who could have stayed in the draft. Additionally, teams like Minnesota have some nice young players who have NBA potential and that's not counting all the very good college players that just aren't NBAers that play at schools like MSU, Wisco, etc.

[ikidunot]

On he's twitter he says he is a foward for the kings not a center, unless he is misunderstanding.

But than again he also played Point Guard position in highschool and was very good at it. So IDK.

[mattg]

On he's twitter he says he is a foward for the kings not a center, unless he is misunderstanding.

But than again he also played Point Guard position in highschool and was very good at it. So IDK.

he hasn't played point guard since maybeee his sophomore year..

[HtownPA]

If he is trying to get his weight down, eating 2 platters of hamburgers isn't going to do it.
Yum Yum Yum

[SadKingsFan]

I could not disagree more with this. Cousins is very skilled, but he is a below the basket big man and that severely limits his upside. To say he has a higher ceiling that John Wall is borderline (Please Use More Appropriate Word) IMO.

John Calipari said it himself in this interview: http://khtk.cbslocal.com/2010/06/25/joh ... rise-guys/ Cousins has the most upside in the ENTIRE draft. Yes...including John Wall. Whether or not that is true, obviously remains to be seen, and i have no idea just like everyone else.

GREAT interview in my opinion although i am obviously a Kings fan. He also said that the teams with the 6th (Warriors) and 7th (Detroit) picks below Sacramento, kept calling him for background info (among other things) on Cousins, and he told them to stop wasting their time since he knew there was no way he would slip out of the top 5. Also said that he thought Minnesota and New jersey were insane for passing on such a talent.

Calipari said a ton of interesting things and i think you guys might wanna take a listen whenever you have time.

[SadKingsFan]

I think the red flags are overblown because of how few weaknesses there are in his game as a prospect.

He's got the size, the strength, he's got the wing span, standing reach, he's got the skills. And he had the production. So he's no short tweener nor does he have stubby arms. Nor was he a completely unproven project

So the only thing they can find on the guy is taking his intensity on the court and trying to turn that into him being a thuggish head case

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/DeM ... 318/stats/

When mentioning his intensity on the court the critics never seem to mention Cousins ranked overall #1 in Efficiency per 40 minutes, had the #2 Win Score per 40, the #2 Player Efficiency Rating per 40.

Pace adjusted per 40, Cousins: 24.5 pts, 15.9 rebs, 1.6 asts, 1.6 stls, 2.9 blks (with 3.3 tos and 5.2 pfs).

Grabbing that many rebounds alongside Patterson and a rebounding guard like Wall takes some intensity. Cousins had the 2nd best rebounds per 40.

I really have a hard time believing he'll be anything but great in the NBA.[/quote] You Just reminded me of another thing that Calipari said in his interview. He Guaranteed that Cousins will be the most efficient rookie this upcoming season.

[HtownPA]

SadKingsFan,

Calipari is biased. If he says anything that can be viewed as unsupportive of former players, it would hurt recruiting new players to replace the ones that he lost. It wouldn't look good to show up at a high school kid's door step and saying "hey how about playing for Kentucky next year? I am a very supportive coach that will help you.". They would laugh at him and throw out Demarcus Cousin's name.

[ikidunot]

SadKingsFan,

Calipari is biased. If he says anything that can be viewed as unsupportive of former players, it would hurt recruiting new players to replace the ones that he lost. It wouldn't look good to show up at a high school kid's door step and saying "hey how about playing for Kentucky next year? I am a very supportive coach that will help you.". They would laugh at him and throw out Demarcus Cousin's name.

In January many Kentucky fans believe that Cousins was going to be number 1. I did too, Wall started off great but than it seemed he was just average while Cousins kept getting better and better. Sometimes the only constant player in kentucky games was Cousins.

But when the media started to bring up his attitude and maturity level I knew he wasn't going to be first pick than.Plus I don't think Cal is bias, he has said alot of bad things about Cousins in the beginning of the season(his attitude) but like I said he kept getting better and better.

[mattg]

I think the red flags are overblown because of how few weaknesses there are in his game as a prospect.

He's got the size, the strength, he's got the wing span, standing reach, he's got the skills. And he had the production. So he's no short tweener nor does he have stubby arms. Nor was he a completely unproven project

So the only thing they can find on the guy is taking his intensity on the court and trying to turn that into him being a thuggish head case

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/DeM ... 318/stats/

When mentioning his intensity on the court the critics never seem to mention Cousins ranked overall #1 in Efficiency per 40 minutes, had the #2 Win Score per 40, the #2 Player Efficiency Rating per 40.

Pace adjusted per 40, Cousins: 24.5 pts, 15.9 rebs, 1.6 asts, 1.6 stls, 2.9 blks (with 3.3 tos and 5.2 pfs).

Grabbing that many rebounds alongside Patterson and a rebounding guard like Wall takes some intensity. Cousins had the 2nd best rebounds per 40.

I really have a hard time believing he'll be anything but great in the NBA.

You Just reminded me of another thing that Calipari said in his interview. He Guaranteed that Cousins will be the most efficient rookie this upcoming season.[/quote]
the post you quoted wasn't bashing cousins instensity, it was applauding it. he was basically saying, the only thing people seem to knock cousins for is his extreme on court intensity because they spin it into him being a thuggish headcase though that is not the case. The dude plays HARD, think Anderson Varejao effort level except with all the talent in the world.

[rpa]

On he's twitter he says he is a foward for the kings not a center, unless he is misunderstanding.

But than again he also played Point Guard position in highschool and was very good at it. So IDK.

At some point before the draft I think he said that he was more of a PF than a C. On the Kings board I've personally advocated starting a frontline of him & Dalembert next year. In my mind it makes a lot of sense because it would take so much pressure off Cousins on the defensive end.

[horaceworthy]

But when the media started to bring up his attitude and maturity level I knew he wasn't going to be first pick than.Plus I don't think Cal is bias, he has said alot of bad things about Cousins in the beginning of the season(his attitude) but like I said he kept getting better and better.

Calipari is absolutely biased when discussing the pro prospects of his own players. He's the best hype man in college basketball. That doesn't automatically make what he says about Cousins wrong, but nobody extolls the virtues of his players throughout the NBA draft process more than Calipari. This should be kept in mind before you bite on it hook, line, and sinker.

[Jaylee209]

He maybe a hype man, but when has his hype been wrong?

[SadKingsFan]

But when the media started to bring up his attitude and maturity level I knew he wasn't going to be first pick than.Plus I don't think Cal is bias, he has said alot of bad things about Cousins in the beginning of the season(his attitude) but like I said he kept getting better and better.

Calipari is absolutely biased when discussing the pro prospects of his own players. He's the best hype man in college basketball. That doesn't automatically make what he says about Cousins wrong, but nobody extolls the virtues of his players throughout the NBA draft process more than Calipari. This should be kept in mind before you bite on it hook, line, and sinker.

But That isn't the point. Of course he's biased, but the fact that he thinks Cousins has the most upside in this ENTIRE draft says a lot.

John wall was the number one pick in this draft and played for Calipari as well, so this can be considered a slight towards wall and his potential...no?

[horaceworthy]

The point of the post I was responding to was that Calipari shouldn't be considered biased. I vehemently disagree with that.

Take from Calipari's words whatever you want, but take it with a grain of salt.

That's all I'm saying. I'm not trying to piss in Sacto's cheerios, I was one of the Wolves fans begging Kahn to take him at #4.