Michael Lucky wrote:Best college player I have ever seen. And he's just a freshman. Lol
eh Michael Beasley was a beast in college too
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Michael Lucky wrote:Best college player I have ever seen. And he's just a freshman. Lol
Shock Defeat wrote:Michael Lucky wrote:Best college player I have ever seen. And he's just a freshman. Lol
eh Michael Beasley was a beast in college too
EvanZ wrote:SeattleJazzFan wrote:I'm a huge BYU fan and naturally a big fan of Jimmer. You simply can't compare the two. When you start comparing small guards to Young - I've heard Jimmer, Chris Jackson, even Curry - the comparison falls flat where Young is a great passer with great vision and blows those guys out of the water. Jimmer averaged about 4 assists a game. he was a solid passer/playmaker, but he is nowhere near Trae Young - ultimately that is where Young separates himself. Also, a much better ball handler than Jimmer ever was.
Trae does not blow Steph out of the water in terms of passing (or Chris Jackson tbh). Bobby Knight once said that Steph is the best passer he had ever seen coming out of college. If Steph were playing for D'Antoni (or when he played for Nellie) you'd see much more of that.
Shock Defeat wrote:Michael Lucky wrote:Best college player I have ever seen. And he's just a freshman. Lol
eh Michael Beasley was a beast in college too
SeattleJazzFan wrote:EvanZ wrote:SeattleJazzFan wrote:I'm a huge BYU fan and naturally a big fan of Jimmer. You simply can't compare the two. When you start comparing small guards to Young - I've heard Jimmer, Chris Jackson, even Curry - the comparison falls flat where Young is a great passer with great vision and blows those guys out of the water. Jimmer averaged about 4 assists a game. he was a solid passer/playmaker, but he is nowhere near Trae Young - ultimately that is where Young separates himself. Also, a much better ball handler than Jimmer ever was.
Trae does not blow Steph out of the water in terms of passing (or Chris Jackson tbh). Bobby Knight once said that Steph is the best passer he had ever seen coming out of college. If Steph were playing for D'Antoni (or when he played for Nellie) you'd see much more of that.
i saw Steph and Davidson. didn't have Trae's vision or passing ability - not even close. Bobby Knight is prone to hyperbole.
SeattleJazzFan wrote:EvanZ wrote:SeattleJazzFan wrote:I'm a huge BYU fan and naturally a big fan of Jimmer. You simply can't compare the two. When you start comparing small guards to Young - I've heard Jimmer, Chris Jackson, even Curry - the comparison falls flat where Young is a great passer with great vision and blows those guys out of the water. Jimmer averaged about 4 assists a game. he was a solid passer/playmaker, but he is nowhere near Trae Young - ultimately that is where Young separates himself. Also, a much better ball handler than Jimmer ever was.
Trae does not blow Steph out of the water in terms of passing (or Chris Jackson tbh). Bobby Knight once said that Steph is the best passer he had ever seen coming out of college. If Steph were playing for D'Antoni (or when he played for Nellie) you'd see much more of that.
i saw Steph and Davidson. didn't have Trae's vision or passing ability - not even close. Bobby Knight is prone to hyperbole.

Michael Lucky wrote:Release point matters a lot more against length than where you start your motion. Also length is really negligible along the perimeter when it comes to shooting due to the added spacing of the NBA game. It's one of the reasons why someone like IT can thrive offensively.

SeattleJazzFan wrote:Shock Defeat wrote:Michael Lucky wrote:Best college player I have ever seen. And he's just a freshman. Lol
eh Michael Beasley was a beast in college too
and Michael Beasley as a PER of 20 and TS% of 58%. 23 and 9 per 36. Beasley has had his issues but he's a damn good NBA player.
Upperclass wrote:Steph is a top 3 passer(vision) in this league.. behind Lebron and Harden. You could EASILY see this back at Davidson.. his issue was if he would be able to penetrate due to his perceived lack of quickness.
Michael Lucky wrote:Upperclass wrote:Steph is a top 3 passer(vision) in this league.. behind Lebron and Harden. You could EASILY see this back at Davidson.. his issue was if he would be able to penetrate due to his perceived lack of quickness.
No such issues with Young when it comes to penetrating. The guy penetrates as much as Harden, hence his ridiculous FTAs a game. If there's one worry, it is durability playing that style. Having said that, he seems to have an endless motor. He plays way better in the second halves of games in general despite the usage.
nolang1 wrote:Michael Lucky wrote:Upperclass wrote:Steph is a top 3 passer(vision) in this league.. behind Lebron and Harden. You could EASILY see this back at Davidson.. his issue was if he would be able to penetrate due to his perceived lack of quickness.
No such issues with Young when it comes to penetrating. The guy penetrates as much as Harden, hence his ridiculous FTAs a game. If there's one worry, it is durability playing that style. Having said that, he seems to have an endless motor. He plays way better in the second halves of games in general despite the usage.
The worry would be that his foul selling game is pretty much maxed out already and that better defenders will be fine with letting him penetrate and daring him to make a low-percentage shot over them.
clyde21 wrote:SeattleJazzFan wrote:EvanZ wrote:
Trae does not blow Steph out of the water in terms of passing (or Chris Jackson tbh). Bobby Knight once said that Steph is the best passer he had ever seen coming out of college. If Steph were playing for D'Antoni (or when he played for Nellie) you'd see much more of that.
i saw Steph and Davidson. didn't have Trae's vision or passing ability - not even close. Bobby Knight is prone to hyperbole.
If Steph was a full time on ball PG like Harden or Russ he'd easily average 10apg.
Michael Lucky wrote:nolang1 wrote:Michael Lucky wrote:No such issues with Young when it comes to penetrating. The guy penetrates as much as Harden, hence his ridiculous FTAs a game. If there's one worry, it is durability playing that style. Having said that, he seems to have an endless motor. He plays way better in the second halves of games in general despite the usage.
The worry would be that his foul selling game is pretty much maxed out already and that better defenders will be fine with letting him penetrate and daring him to make a low-percentage shot over them.
after seeing Lou Williams play for a few years now in LA, i'm not too worried.
Michael Lucky wrote:Upperclass wrote:Steph is a top 3 passer(vision) in this league.. behind Lebron and Harden. You could EASILY see this back at Davidson.. his issue was if he would be able to penetrate due to his perceived lack of quickness.
No such issues with Young when it comes to penetrating. The guy penetrates as much as Harden, hence his ridiculous FTAs a game. If there's one worry, it is durability playing that style. Having said that, he seems to have an endless motor. He plays way better in the second halves of games in general despite the usage.
Upperclass wrote:Steph is a top 3 passer(vision) in this league.. behind Lebron and Harden. You could EASILY see this back at Davidson.. his issue was if he would be able to penetrate due to his perceived lack of quickness.
Upperclass wrote:Steph is a top 3 passer(vision) in this league.. behind Lebron and Harden. .
