Reed Sheppard and Rob Dillingham - 2024 NBA Draft

[Dat2U]

He isn't even the most skilled freshman on his own team. What are you talking about. I like Dillingham as well and think he has a great feel for the game but most skilled freshman we have seen in a few seasons., huh, what. Jamal crawford could pass as well, you aren't remembering correctly.

Who is more skilled on his team? And not every skinny kid with a crazy handle is the next Jamal Crawford ... its a lazy comp. Do better!

I didn't comp him to Crawford, I was just stating Crawford could pass as well. Someone else brought him up bit If you ultimately think Dillingham is going to be a 6th man that is going to be a below avg defender, the role is similar so I would 100% get why people are throwing out those 6th man type of players who are undersized physically.

Umm, how about the freshman on his team with a TS% of 69.9%, the guy shot it better from everywhere. Historically good shooting season and he managed with a low usage rate to avg 4.5 assists and have a better ast-to ratio. That guy maybe?

Everyone knows Shepp is a special shooter but ball handlign & shot creation are important skills as well and that's where Dilly has a significant advantage on Sheppard.

[Chuck Everett]

Speaking of physically undersized backups, Dillingham could be a supercharged Bones Hyland without the ego thinking he's the best player in the league.

He's with Klutch Sports, he probably has the same ego. I honestly don't know what Dillingham's future is in this league. Can he defend anyone at all? And if his only value is ISO-scoring (which it may be), I just wonder which team is the one that says you'll be our Iverson.

[Klomp]

So I guess this is the Dillingham thread we'll be bumping years from now when the Spurs make their pick in 2031?!

[Klomp]

Speaking of physically undersized backups, Dillingham could be a supercharged Bones Hyland without the ego thinking he's the best player in the league.

I guess Tim Connelly making this pick makes perfect sense!

[SelfishPlayer]

Speaking of physically undersized backups, Dillingham could be a supercharged Bones Hyland without the ego thinking he's the best player in the league.

He's with Klutch Sports, he probably has the same ego. I honestly don't know what Dillingham's future is in this league. Can he defend anyone at all? And if his only value is ISO-scoring (which it may be), I just wonder which team is the one that says you'll be our Iverson.

No team makes a decision to allow someone to be a MVP hall of famer and #1 overall pick. It's not that simple.

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[Colbinii]

Speaking of physically undersized backups, Dillingham could be a supercharged Bones Hyland without the ego thinking he's the best player in the league.

Dillingham is also a much better passer--both higher volume and better turnover economy but a more willing passer and creative passer.

[Klomp]

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[clyde21]

love me some Dilly, you guys got my #2 ranked guy fwiw

[SelfishPlayer]

Dillingham was my #2 prospect behind Holland. I don't watch college basketball AT ALL. So I never viewed Dillingham as some limited microwave sixth man like seemingly most people do. I broke down his skillset NOT his role in college. Now that his skill set has been cosigned by two NBA executives that people respect, he is shedding the lable of being only a Lou Williams type without ever having played a single NBA game. Dillingham is a pure lead guard, scoring point guard, or any name you want to put on the Derrick Rose, Ja Morant, Iverson, Tony Parker type guys that have been making All Star games from that position for the last 30 years.

[amcoolio]

Dillingham was my #2 prospect behind Holland. I don't watch college basketball AT ALL. So I never viewed Dillingham as some limited microwave sixth man like seemingly most people do. I broke down his skillset NOT his role in college. Now that his skill set has been cosigned by two NBA executives that people respect, he is shedding the lable of being only a Lou Williams type without ever having played a single NBA game. Dillingham is a pure lead guard, scoring point guard, or any name you want to put on the Derrick Rose, Ja Morant, Iverson, Tony Parker type guys that have been making All Star games from that position for the last 30 years.

Yeah but the problem is he is smaller and lighter than Kemba Walker. Like the NFL at some point height/strength just catches up with you

[SelfishPlayer]

Dillingham was my #2 prospect behind Holland. I don't watch college basketball AT ALL. So I never viewed Dillingham as some limited microwave sixth man like seemingly most people do. I broke down his skillset NOT his role in college. Now that his skill set has been cosigned by two NBA executives that people respect, he is shedding the lable of being only a Lou Williams type without ever having played a single NBA game. Dillingham is a pure lead guard, scoring point guard, or any name you want to put on the Derrick Rose, Ja Morant, Iverson, Tony Parker type guys that have been making All Star games from that position for the last 30 years.

Yeah but the problem is he is smaller and lighter than Kemba Walker. Like the NFL at some point height/strength just catches up with you

I've never seen a perimeter NBA player that was too light to compete so they failed. The rules were changed TWO DECADES ago to totally elemenate the possibility of this sort of thing happening. It's a weird critique of perimeter players like Durant and Ingram which gets proven wrong over and over and over again. These guys play basketball not runningback.

[FarBeyondDriven]

Dillingham was my #2 prospect behind Holland. I don't watch college basketball AT ALL. So I never viewed Dillingham as some limited microwave sixth man like seemingly most people do. I broke down his skillset NOT his role in college. Now that his skill set has been cosigned by two NBA executives that people respect, he is shedding the lable of being only a Lou Williams type without ever having played a single NBA game. Dillingham is a pure lead guard, scoring point guard, or any name you want to put on the Derrick Rose, Ja Morant, Iverson, Tony Parker type guys that have been making All Star games from that position for the last 30 years.

Yeah but the problem is he is smaller and lighter than Kemba Walker. Like the NFL at some point height/strength just catches up with you

I've never seen a perimeter NBA player that was too light to compete so they failed. The rules were changed TWO DECADES ago to totally elemenate the possibility of this sort of thing happening. It's a weird critique of perimeter players like Durant and Ingram which gets proven wrong over and over and over again. These guys play basketball not runningback.

I think it's more on the defensive side of things as pretty much every PG (or anyone he's switched onto) can back him down and shoot over him with ease. Wolves have the length and defenders to cheat and help but it's something that can be countered in the playoffs. There were instances where he raised his defensive intensity, pressuring the ball and playing passing lanes but they were few and far between. I think he'll need to have that constantly in the NBA to stay on the floor.

[SelfishPlayer]

Yeah but the problem is he is smaller and lighter than Kemba Walker. Like the NFL at some point height/strength just catches up with you

I've never seen a perimeter NBA player that was too light to compete so they failed. The rules were changed TWO DECADES ago to totally elemenate the possibility of this sort of thing happening. It's a weird critique of perimeter players like Durant and Ingram which gets proven wrong over and over and over again. These guys play basketball not runningback.

I think it's more on the defensive side of things as pretty much every PG (or anyone he's switched onto) can back him down and shoot over him with ease. Wolves have the length and defenders to cheat and help but it's something that can be countered in the playoffs. There were instances where he raised his defensive intensity, pressuring the ball and playing passing lanes but they were few and far between. I think he'll need to have that constantly in the NBA to stay on the floor.

You WANT him to have a defensive deficiency. How is he any more prone to getting shot over than any other guard under 6'4"? Did you surmise this as a major weakness of his as he came off the bench in college? Come on, you are reaching. Most guards in this era have zero ability to win a game by backing down the opponent to victory. That's so 90s.

[Worm Guts]

A 19 year old being skinny is usually a problem that fixes itself over time. I wouldn't be particularly concerned.

[Klomp]

Yeah but the problem is he is smaller and lighter than Kemba Walker. Like the NFL at some point height/strength just catches up with you

I've never seen a perimeter NBA player that was too light to compete so they failed. The rules were changed TWO DECADES ago to totally elemenate the possibility of this sort of thing happening. It's a weird critique of perimeter players like Durant and Ingram which gets proven wrong over and over and over again. These guys play basketball not runningback.

I think it's more on the defensive side of things as pretty much every PG (or anyone he's switched onto) can back him down and shoot over him with ease. Wolves have the length and defenders to cheat and help but it's something that can be countered in the playoffs. There were instances where he raised his defensive intensity, pressuring the ball and playing passing lanes but they were few and far between. I think he'll need to have that constantly in the NBA to stay on the floor.

Has Ja Morant been played off the floor in the playoffs?

[Dat2U]

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Tim Connelly and I think alike. Best shot creator I the draft. Better prospect than Darius Garland coming out. Wolves didn't get stuck on the height or the selfish play of his youth... they saw someone who can be an advantage creator at next level for himself and others.

San Antonio will look pretty questionable for passing Dilly up sooner than later.

[Klomp]

College stats, per 100 possessions
Rob Dillingham 35.3 points, 6.8 rebounds, 9.0 assists, 4.6 turnovers, 2.4 steals
De'Aaron Fox 30.4 points, 7.2 rebounds, 8.3 assists, 4.4 turnovers, 2.7 steals
Darius Garland 33.8 points, 7.9 rebounds, 5.4 assists, 6.3 turnovers, 1.7 steals
Kyrie Irving 36.1 points, 7.0 rebounds, 8.8 assists, 5.1 turnovers, 3.0 steals
Malik Monk 33.3 points, 4.2 rebounds, 3.8 assists, 3.3 turnovers, 1.6 steals
Collin Sexton 36.5 points, 7.2 rebounds, 6.9 assists, 5.3 turnovers, 1.6 steals
Coby White 29.6 points, 6.5 rebounds, 7.5 assists, 4.9 turnovers, 2.0 steals
Trae Young 40.4 points, 5.8 rebounds, 12.9 assists, 7.7 turnovers, 2.5 steals

[FarBeyondDriven]

I've never seen a perimeter NBA player that was too light to compete so they failed. The rules were changed TWO DECADES ago to totally elemenate the possibility of this sort of thing happening. It's a weird critique of perimeter players like Durant and Ingram which gets proven wrong over and over and over again. These guys play basketball not runningback.

I think it's more on the defensive side of things as pretty much every PG (or anyone he's switched onto) can back him down and shoot over him with ease. Wolves have the length and defenders to cheat and help but it's something that can be countered in the playoffs. There were instances where he raised his defensive intensity, pressuring the ball and playing passing lanes but they were few and far between. I think he'll need to have that constantly in the NBA to stay on the floor.

Has Ja Morant been played off the floor in the playoffs?

no but he's taken advantage of by opposing offenses and hunted